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How about everyone who is watching the game gets an avatar and you can have them cheer or boo or go crazy. Make it real interactive

I watched meaningless baseball for ten years, not going to stop now.

Hello no, I don't get some people. You play 100 games, you win the World Series you're the champs man.

Barely, imo. You lose all of the community aspects. You get weird baseball. Any playoff results would border on meaningless. And maybe risk peoples lives.

Might want to not have the Astros playing in those games...

The good news is he won't get fooled again.

This is how I watch the World Series every year anyway, it makes zero difference to a lot of us

DURING the Presidency? It would be eye-opening as Trump is the first President in HISTORY to refuse to separate out his personal wealth and interests from the office of the Presidency. He's also the first to set his personal travel and activities around enriching his own wealth. But then again he'd get on TV and say this wasn't happening despite all of the paperwork showing he is, and then someone would show a meme about Clinton and/or Obama and half the country would buy it like usual.

If it that much of an issue go to a simulated screen of previous crowds. Simulate the crowd noise for the appropriate play. No one will know the difference, just like the alleged moonlanding. ?

How are we to know that arizona is in fact the correct place to play baseball, and we have instead been playing in fake baseball environments?

"It was one of his favorite phrases and he often repeated it: "after awhile, you could get used to anything". -Camus It will take about a week of games with no fans before everybody has "gotten used to it".

I'm trying to picture Paulie's WS GS in an empty stadium. Doesn't have quite the same feel to it.

I am under the impression there are very few people on here that are 80 years old.

I think there is functionally no difference between not having a world series and having a virtual world series that everyone watches by themselves on their couch.

Couldn't ever see this coming after this panel was put in place to avoid handing Mnuchin a 500 million dollar slush with no oversight

Oh my god this is dumb. People act like Arizona is Mars playing on zero gravity.

There will be baseball by July. Book it. NY is stabilizing. WA and CA are already likely on the downside of the curve thanks to the soft lockdowns that were started fairly early. In WA's case very early. They can play all the games in AZ, that makes a lot of sense imo. You cut out 90% of the logistical problems then wrt to the virus and safety.

This is better than no baseball at all though and that's the point

Honestly, me too. You are getting to watch the best players in the world play against each other. Yes, fans add stuff. Stadiums add stuff. But put crappy players to play in the best, packed stadium in the world and it's not as important to me as point #1. The idea that not having any of that is better than having this is so strange to me. The players are playing against each other...how is that fake?

I just can't believe the number of people (not just on this board but on Twitter, etc.) that don't want something like this to happen. As of right now, this is the best option for us to actually see White Sox baseball this season. A season we were all so excited about, a season that will be very important to the development of this team into the perennial contender we think it can be. If the MLB, union, and players agree to this, and the public health officials give it the green light, why wouldn't we as fans want this? Will it be weird? Yeah. Will it suck not being able to see a game in person? Hell yes. But you what would really suck? No baseball for a fucking year.

Well I’d like to see this happen just to observe the players sitting 6 feet apart in the stands rather than in the dugout.

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/29004498/mlb-union-focused-plan-allow-season-start-early-arizona

Plus as was said earlier, we have the King of Arizona in Adam Engel.

You will be greatly missed, Farmio.

amen. And after a week of games, the thought of none at all will seem painful, not a better solution to the ones who don't want it at all now.

Then don't watch I guess lol

Well one, those seasons were played in full, at home, in front of fans. So it's not a good comparison in the first place. Two. I never said I want an asterisk. I just don't personally give a shit about the results of what happens in a bubble season. It's glorified spring training to me.

WWII much?

Y'all think I'm joking but Arizona Engel is a god into himself.

Our secret weapon.

As cold as that sounds, you're correct. If the "curve" isn't flattened and there are still a bunch of people dying every day, they won't push forward with any plan to play baseball. But if it's basically under control and there is rapid testing available, they will do what they can to play.

Arizona has next to zero humidity in the summer and low humidity causes the ball to travel less far, not more far.

This doesn't matter if it's the only way to play though. I think people are severely underrating the risk tolerance of these players. They want to play and they want to get paid. The only way they're getting paid is if they play baseball games. May is absurd but I would bet that teams are playing in Arizona in July. There's just too much money on the line for all parties to not try and play.

I thought Trump was promoting this drug because he loved us. It was all hiding in plain sight.

It’s a travesty that the Astros won’t get retribution from fans for God knows how long.

Would TA still bat flip after a home run if there were no fans?

The thing is, most moderates support expanding to include a public option (Buttigieg's Medicare for All Who Want It as an example). It pretty much comes down to keep the employer insurance or nuke it.

Great job with the jinx, @hi8is!

This is news. https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/29004498/mlb-union-focused-plan-allow-season-start-early-arizona

Clearly, the guy is just here to get people riled up with illogical whataboutisms, and he's not much better during baseball season. The sooner people realize this and stop quoting him, the less we who have him ignored have to read his nonsense

Tax writeoffs! For at least a decade. It would be interesting to see how much money the Trump organization actually invested/risked (they’re more into branding and management fees), how much he’s personally lost, how much money ended up not getting paid to vendors/workers in all the bankruptcies/restructurings and what the real net is....let’s not get started with the attempted charity endeavors. Probably a lot less than the ROR on the Vanguard 500 Index over that entire time frame.

You’re an elected official now? Well, that would only make sense, since your dear elected leader spends more time following the way he’s bring covered and wasting everyones’ time holding briefings on national t.v. than he does solving the actual problems. Recently, he’s taken to not even letting the actual health experts talk. He has had some really great/amazing/beautiful/perfect phone calls, I guess. Lots of genuflecting and expressions of appreciation from the “good” governors... We’re in month five of this and there’s still no agreed-upon plan, just posturing to treat any death count under 240k as a victory, all the failures to be attributed to the mayors in urban areas/Dem governors/MSM/Federal Reserve/Biden corruption/deep state cabals, like the Inspector General of HHS who has been in government since 1999 and has served in a nonpartisan fashion over multiple presidencies of both parties.

Yet we all watched Daniel Palka play.

Uh not me. I definitely want to see these dudes.

We've long had discussions on their limitations, but Farmer and DJ made me belly laugh a lot. They were so weird, such a different pairing than you'd seek to put together for a broadcast. That had its issues, but also its highs.

I met Farmio in the elevator at the park. He initiated a conversion and seemed a very nice man who was very interested in what you had to say. RIP. For guy who played for, scouted for and broadcast for the White Sox, it's interesting to note, except when he was in uniform, he never wore socks.

Terrible news. Growing up, we didn't have cable so we listened to games. Every night. Ed has been part of the soundtrack of my life for nearly 30 years. Listening to him while playing backyard ball, at the dinner table and every time I was in the car. It won't be the same with out him. Rest in Peace, Ed. Turn on the fireworks!

Farmio: "Flowers to the mound to talk to Noesi. Here comes Coop." Farmio: "Here's how that conversation is gonna go: (Coop) how's he throwing? (Flowers) I don't know, I haven't caught one" RIP Ed Farmer. "GO CRAZY!"