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The national media will certainly miss Soldier Field. The backdrop of the lakefront, the park surrounding the stadium and the skyline backdrop is a staple for every Bears telecast -- it's unlike any other backdrop in pro football. Last night, it seems like they spent half the game with beautiful aerial shots showing off the surroundings.

hell yeah buddy

Will is getting ejected (finally) and they are interviewing some knucklehleads in the stands. Great job CHSN

I'll be sure to try this the next time I order one. I expect to be slapped.

Kept it simple

This was so bad it took me a few minutes to figure out who the hell Drury was. Talk about swinging and missing. Yikes.

I know as a facility it has issues but it would bum me out seeing the Bears move out of the water front. To me that is just an iconic view with the park, museums, stadium and skyline. It's one of my favorite views of any city in the world and I know I'm not alone in that.

We know offensively we've been better in the second half. How it has been done has been reassuring to me that we are scouting and have a better young core. Offensively, I'm sure we are aware that post ASB we have been an actual very good offense. That has helped us be a .500 team in the second half despite a very bad pitching staff. But there is one area I appreciate because even if you isolate our no-good offense of April and May showed immediate, genuine progress. Team BB%+: In 2022, our 81-81 team had a BB%+ of 80, which is 20% below league average and also last in the league. In 2023, our team BB%+ was 75, which is both 25% below league average but also last in the league. That was a 100 loss team obviously. In 2024, our team BB%+ was 83, which is 17% below average and amazingly just 29th in the league. While 2022 could be passable because we struck out less, and did so with league average power, by the time that we get to 2024 we are striking out more, walking less, and when we do hit it, it's for grounders. In 2025, our BB%+ is 102, which is 2% above average and 11th in the league. Our K% is 100, so we are just average in strikeouts (17th in league). What makes our offense still relatively tepid is the power. So this is, finally, a real reversal into a trend that was just extremely stuck. Much of that was players, but we had a lot of differentplayers during that 3 year stretch. This year, the MLB vets we got were able to provide actual bases not just generated by hits, but so was our talent from the farm coming up and not being embarrassing in their approach. What makes me genuinely even happier is if you isolate it to just April and May of 2025, when our offense was bad, we had a 107 BB%+ which was good for 11th overall in the league. They struck out MUCH more early, and had zero power. So even if you say we are buoyed by a hot stretch, this pattern has seemed genuinely durable across some different groups of players. A funny part is - hey wait Colson isn't necessarily an amazing part of this - ... Well post July 4th, with our loss of a few vet hitters and rise of Colson and younger bats, our Walk rate does go down to 96 and 20th in league, but our K rate is actually 90 - so we strike out 10% less than the rest of the MLB. We actually have the 5th lowest K%+ since Colson came up. But our power IMPROVED. pre Colson our Power ISO+ was 73, now it is 106 post Colson. So BBs went down, Ks went way down, and power went way up. But most importantly, we stopped this 3 year long trend of being bottom of the league in BB%+. In 2021, when we had good offense, we were second in league in BB%+ at 114 (thanks Grandal). We have more work to do to be the best team in baseball, but this is the kind of real progress I like to see. Shows across the board better execution in scouting, coaching, and players.

can't win em all. this seems like a 'good team' kind of loss if that makes sense.

and a Gyro

Mead's due.

Lenny's had a nice week

also, am I the only one imagining George every time Jason Alexander comes in to pitch? Ellard and Eisert might have a future here. I might call up Schweitzer and option one of those guys or simply DFA Alexander.

why is a 31 year old nobody with an era of 5 still pitching? We have nobody more promising at any level in the farm?

YUGE at bat in a YUGE spot

He was good at A+ and the season is over, so why not. I wouldn't mind if Bonemer got some ABs at Birmingham. I guess they called up Sprinkle.

Baldwin homer incoming

false. it's a gutteral "Y" sound, not a soft "G"; also, the "R" should be rolled once.

I still don't have a strong belief that Gomez has a good enough way to get lefties out to stick as a starter long-term although I hope he can keep it rolling

Here's my hot take: Kyle Teel will challenge Carlton Fisk for title of GOAT White Sox catcher

Think you’re pretty smart? So do I.

Colson is the first SS in MLB history to hit 18 Hrs in his first 53 games

Give him a hit, I have him in fantasy!

Yah, and the first time he misjudges a fly ball next year, well, I can tell the content from this forum. Then, you have to carry a defensive replacement for him. Then, he's going back and forth and ends up hitting .210. He's a Catcher.

Agreed. I don't think enough people outside of Chicago realize how beautiful the view of the skyline next to the lakefront is, but they sure get to see it when the Bears are playing on a national telecast. Yesterday's shots were stunning. A domed stadium complex at Arlington Park would be great for the team and I expect would be a top-notch facility, but it would be a shame to lose those "money shots".

Not bad.

The amount of degenerate parlays based on HRs this dude has completed the last month certainly makes him a better's favorite.

That's the Dinger Tuesday play

Presumably Quero and Teel have some familiarity with Houser's stuff from having caught him. Kinda don't want to light him up too bad though, I liked him as a Sox.

I think there are concerns with Smith and Schultz and I don't want to minimize those. Smith's control backed up because they changed his delivery due to injury issues. He needs to work through that, or find another, better delivery. Schultz is dealing with injuries, plus they apparently told him to stop using his cutter in AAA and he's been bad there. Hopefully some time in the fall helps them and they get back on track next season. The idea of looking at MLB's top 100 isn't to be THE definitive source. It's meant to be a standardized point of reference for a decade+ of drafting and development, and to show that the Sox were able to get multiple recent draftees into the top 100 to replace Teel, Montgomery and Quero after they came up.

Getz and his front office are making it a point to acquire guys with front approaches and high OBP potential. That’s one of the key differences between Getz and KW/Hahn, this group seems to understand the importance of getting on base consistently. They drafted a ton of guys with OBP skills and good approaches per all the publications, Caleb Bonemer, Billy Carlson, Jaden Fauske, Landon Hodge, Sam Antonnocci, Nick McClain, etc. They’re loading the org with those type of guys.

I do wonder why the assumption is we shouldn't mess with things comes from. We just turned in the worst Sox single attendance season in decades. Looking at adding more walk up fans makes tons of sense.

It’s funny how it’s all over for everyone after game 1 but I’m gonna hold firm to “it’s gonna start pretty rough then it’s gonna fall in place” the O line was average at best and the right side was absolutely abysmal with penalties and push. Now, that defense is fucking awesome as well as their DC, they did great work to confuse everyone and that’s really disappointing given the pedigree Caleb was on fire, and then when he missed his first guy it’s like a balloon popped and his accuracy just died. I didn’t like that at all. The corners and safeties held their part of the bargain, the D Line was pretty suspect on the run. I saw that in preseason and it needs to change if they are going to get this team moving forward. I would say overall the defense definitely missed Gordon Johnson and Edward’s at the end the most. super disappointing end after a really fun first half

The White Sox have the second worst record in MLB.

Of all the stretches you’ve made, the biggest has to be claiming you’d knock out the teeth of four separate men at once.

I am disappoint

I have to assume, if the 78 is actually developed, there would be some pathways built that would make the connection easier than what it shows on Google Maps. But it's a very steep grade down from Roosevelt. I've started walking past the 78 site more often to go to Roosevelt Green/Red from UIC rather than take the Halsted bus, mostly because this thread has inspired me to do so. But the public investment that is being asked to do that would be a total waste of money if you ask me. It would be technically challenging. A new stop has little use except for a new arena...but this infrastructure already exists one stop down!! It's redundant! I think the 78 such a perfect place to put a park without spending a ton of money the city/state doesn't have for little to no economic benefit (I might assume considering the cost when you could invest....0 dollars in redundant transit infrastructure). The Ping Tom park is reasonably new and it's an awesome park. This would be a great extension of it and be part of an infrastructure to extend the riverwalk from the Loop to Chinatown. Maybe it could be the centerpiece of it. the morons who own the land would never go for that though, they'd rather it be a vacant wasteland.

I think it's bold to assume people will actually walk 20 minutes. Sox-35th is a 2 minute walk and the Red Line can be connected to in multiple locations. Metra Rock Island stops in essentially the same place. Easy bus access. The freeway access is obviously easy, easier than the 78 site and it's frankly additional traffic I don't want to deal with around UIC. The 78 is basically a dead transit zone. It's a half mile walk from Roosevelt and you have to take some steps down (that don't exist yet as far as I can tell). Building a new station there would be such a waste of money. It's so close to Roosevelt and what would be the point of the investment to make that detour? It would just piss everybody else off who lives on the South Side, except the wealthy people who live in the South Loop. Really do not need an additional stop at 16th/Clark (or whatever) between Chinatown and Roosevelt is the point no one (not Sox fans) are discussing with this proposal.

Both pitchers look fine. I still dislike the Hagen Smith pick when we could've had Wetherholt (or Braden), it has "previous regime pick" written all over it unlike this recent draft, but the guy is gonna be fine. People are talking about his 'degraded stuff' but he's K'ing 13+ guys per 9 since returning from injury. Going as deep into games as any AA guy would. Noah has always been an injury risk and continues to be...but evidence of his 'stuff degradation' is very overstated by people who aren't paying attention. edit: by the way, there are often useful players who do not show up on the "top 100" for whatever reason. I wouldn't pay super close attention to it TBH. The Sox have a lot of potentially good players not sniffing the top 100. A few of them will probably pan out. Oppor might be the best lefty starter out of the bunch.

He wasn't. Teel was. The Red Sox underrated Montgomery, he should've been the centerpeice and Teel should've been Bleis...if they were an effectively run organization. They are not. The Red Sox have many things going for them because they're the Red Sox...management is not one of them. Pitching development certainly isn't otherwise half of their roster wouldn't be former White Sox.

The phantom holding on Wright where the Minnesota player just slipped started all of it. The Bears got a first down on that play and would have been on the 10 while actually running the ball well. So many things went wrong besides that though. We spent $50 million on 3 interior linemen and we still can't run the ball effectively. Jonah Jackson is trash. The Rams were going to cut him and Poles decided to actually trade draft compensation for him and then extended him. Caleb, while holding onto the ball too long, still had pressure up the middle too many times. Caleb still can't play within structure. I'm sure the all 22 will tell it better, but there were so many times where he'd just bail after standing 3 seconds in the pocket. You can't blame Waldron for drawing up s%*# plays, because Johnson got guys open. Caleb missed them too, way too many times. The inaccuracy issues weren't just on deep balls today, they happened on short and intermediate throws. Not being able to hit Rome on a WR screen. Missing a wide open DJ Moore on 4th and 2 up the middle. Missing a wide open Kmet up the middle. Not to mention the wide open TD to Moore that he missed right before the 2 minute warning. His accuracy was poor. Then the WTF plays from last year showed up. The 3rd and long throw where he threw it near Rome, but it was really to grass. His ability to improvise is nice and we saw that in the first drive, but he needs to do it cause he seemingly can't read the defense. It's really disappointing because the struggles last year really seemed like it was a coaching staff issue. But you bring in a guy who ran the best offense in the NFL last year in Detroit and the same problems persist. The most glaring one is the inaccuracy. I can understand not being acclimated to a new offense immediately, but when you're missing the open throws, that's not excusable. I'm willing to give him more time because like it or not, we're stuck with Caleb for another 2 years. You gotta make it work and it takes time, but a lot of the issues he has don't seem like they're easily fixable. Johnson was also disappointing. The decision to not kick on 4th and 2 in comfortable field goal range in the first half while up 4. It's the first half dude, you don't need to play for 7 all the time. Take the points. This offense isn't the 2024 Detroit Lions. The challenge on the non-fumble was just head scratching. Who's telling him to challenge that? You can see he was down in real-time. Who on the staff saw the replay and said, "yeah let's waste a time out on that"? In the end, that timeout ended up mattering. I don't think they would have won if they had it, but I sure would have liked to see 50 seconds on that last drive instead of 10. Lastly, you should know Cairo Santos has no leg strength. If he can't kick the ball out of the end zone, tell him to kick it out of bounds. 35 yard line vs. 40 yard line, who cares? It's 5 yards. I'd take the 40 seconds every time. Santos is a whole other issue, but it just goes to show that Poles doesn't have his priorities straight when our kicker can't make it from 50 on a consistent basis. Meanwhile Reichard kicked a 59 yarder like it was nothing. That matters in close games.

That missed FG changed the whole momentum of the game. With that being said, Caleb did miss alot of throws. He's got to be better.

It probably will but stranger things have happened, let's put it this way I wouldn't bet your house on it. The White Sox may eventually get a new stadium once JR is gone and Ishbia is willing to pay for it...not until then.

The Bears are going to get their new stadium in Arlington Heights. They might as well pass the bills as soon as possible. Then we can focus on getting a new White Sox stadium in the South Loop.

For those who don't have a Trib subscription, here are the key points from the article: - Bears plan to publicly present their stadium plans (w/ Q&As) this fall and hope to break ground next spring. - Legislative action to give the Bears power to negotiate property taxes is a long shot in the brief fall veto session and will have to be addressed next spring. Legislator from Arlington Hts says they want to get the bill right, not get it done fast. - Only 3 other NFL stadiums have been privately financed: SoFi, MetLife, and Gillette. Each are in the suburbs and have had help with tax breaks, tax-funded infrastructure, and/or a nearby entertainment zone. Two of these three stadiums are shared by 2 teams.

Hell, judging by how fair weather the Sox fan base is, making it easier to get to games by being in a transit friendly neighborhood, especially if a ballpark village type of situation happens, may actually be the best thing to ever happen to growing the fanbase, because as of now, Sox fans only show up to the current location after years of sustained winning.

None of which actually happened.

Scorigami is a unique final score. This game final score has never happened in the NFL before, so it is considered a Scorigami. There is a site and social media account that tracks them, and gives possibility predictions during games https://nflscorigami.com

Right now the Sox are in no position to trade young talented hitters.They traded Semien because he couldnt field either. Sosa can reach a higher offensive upside. Let the young guys play and reach something like a career year before you consider trading them. Of course then you want to keep them but keep the minor league talent flowing in if he's still not in the OF or a better infielder.

I don’t say this often but Sosa is a fan favorite or should be and trading him would piss me off on a subjective fandom level.