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Interesting insights, thank you! Now I think I'll go drive MY car off a cliff! Seriously, I can't say many of the quotes surprise me. That said, having spent time in both public and private companies, many of those quotes could have come from any of those places as well. Hopefully hiring Grifol and (supposedly) letting him hire his coaches is a step in the right direction.
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This. Detroit could not pass on Hinch. I have some people that I trust in the Royals organization. They were sure they were losing him in 2020. When Detroit picked Hinch, the Royals gave Grifol a substantial raise to keep him on the bench. Once Dayton Moore got fired, the Royals were committed to let Picollo go outside the organization for his first hire. They STILL wanted Grifol as their bench coach, but certainly weren't going to stand in his way to get the Sox job. And before we $hit all over the Royals organization, they've been to and won a WS far more recently than the Sox.
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White Sox Mgr Speculation Thread
PitchatRisktoZisk replied to southsider2k5's topic in Pale Hose Talk
He was passed over by the Royals. The team that employed him for 10 years including most recently as their bench coach. I think that tells us all we need to know about Grifol. -
White Sox Mgr Speculation Thread
PitchatRisktoZisk replied to southsider2k5's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Interviewing Ozzie makes me think of another local hire that was thought to be impossible until it actually happened; Dave Laitao 2.0 at DePaul. The parallels are a little scary. DePaul engaged a search firm to come up with candidates. They did their due diligence and went back to the AD (Jeanne Lenti Ponseto) and told her "you've got a problem. Nobody wants to take this job and work under this administration". You better find sometime who will take it under your terms or you'll look like an idiot. She grabbed Leitao and set the program back another decade. Now look at the Sox. We want people like Espada, Long, Grifol, etc. They get interviewed and find out this organization is even more dysfunctional than they could imagine. JR making the real decisions, a bunch of sycophants bowing to JR, not getting to hire your own coaches, known "moles" in your clubhouse. You look it that and say "no thanks". Now the Sox are down to their #5 or 6 choice and someone says "we better find someone that won't incite a riot by the fans. What would be worse, hiring Joe Madden or bringing back Ozzie. Ozzie desperately wants back in the game and will say whatever will get him the job...... knowing full well he'll do it his way once he gets the job or go to the press and b****. A stretch? Maybe, but I put NOTHING past this organization. -
White Sox Mgr Speculation Thread
PitchatRisktoZisk replied to southsider2k5's topic in Pale Hose Talk
I've got two words for you.....Bill Wirtz. JR's handling of this team rivals Wirtz through most of his ownership. The 2004 Blackhawks were voted the worst run team in ALL SPORTS. A title JR is clearly striving to eclipse with the way he has run this franchise into the dirt. -
Canceling SoxFest is a total and complete chickenshit move made by a bushleague organization. They hide under their desks, don't go to the ballpark, and live in an echo chamber where sycophants tell JR how brilliant he is and how much people love him. The idea of actually listening to direct feedback from their customers petrifies them. I'm thoroughly disappointed in the entire FO, but not in the least bit surprised.
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White Sox Mgr Speculation Thread
PitchatRisktoZisk replied to southsider2k5's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Thank you for the clarification. So the Twitterverse is out of control...... I'm shocked! Seriously, I am surprised Sports Illustrated ran with it if they didn't double source it. So essentially nothing really happened today? -
White Sox Mgr Speculation Thread
PitchatRisktoZisk replied to southsider2k5's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Just got back from the Hawks OT win and see 500 posts today. Can anyone tell me what the hell happened? I got an SI update we were signing Espada. Now we're not. WTF happened?!? -
White Sox Mgr Speculation Thread
PitchatRisktoZisk replied to southsider2k5's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Feels like we're just treading water until after the WS. If Dusty retires, Espada is the obvious pick for Houston. If he's your guy, I would put on the full court press and land him NOW. Otherwise he'll end up in Miami or Houston. -
White Sox Mgr Speculation Thread
PitchatRisktoZisk replied to southsider2k5's topic in Pale Hose Talk
If he wants to manage in Chicago again, I hear there's a manager spot open at the McDonald's on Cicero Ave. Stay away from my baseball team! -
White Sox Mgr Speculation Thread
PitchatRisktoZisk replied to southsider2k5's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Thome would take the job to be a "good soldier" if Jerry asked him, despite knowing he's not remotely ready. Leave it to Jerry to repeat the mistake of taking a beloved player (Ventura, Robin) and tarnishing his legacy by putting him in an untenable position. -
White Sox Mgr Speculation Thread
PitchatRisktoZisk replied to southsider2k5's topic in Pale Hose Talk
I love Thome as a person and eventually a position coach and then leader. That said, of all the boxes Hahn listed in the presser, Thome checks NONE OF THEM! I have to believe the Sox are trotting out all these red herrings so we will be satisfied with their ultimate pick. "Leaking" names like Thome and Getz perfume choices like Washington, Maddon and Shlidt when one of them gets picked. -
White Sox Mgr Speculation Thread
PitchatRisktoZisk replied to southsider2k5's topic in Pale Hose Talk
1. Espada 2. Beltran 3. Bochy 4. Grifol 5,432. Washington 6,749,530. Maddon 7,645,980,610. Shildt So it will be Shildt -
The Sox have been pining for Benintendi since the Red Sox took him one pick ahead of us in the draft. We ended up with Carson Fulmer (yuk). That will be Rick's big signing and he'll ring it in like we just signed Fred Lynn.
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[RUMORS] Possible clubhouse drama information leaked?
PitchatRisktoZisk replied to joejoesox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
I said "drawing out his insight". Gordo just rambles and uses 50 words when 5 will do. Jason asks him direct questions so his responses are more on point. -
[RUMORS] Possible clubhouse drama information leaked?
PitchatRisktoZisk replied to joejoesox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Hard not to improve considering how awful he was. 90% of his improvement comes from Jason drawing out his insight through asking him direct questions. Without Jason, he's toast. -
Will Abreu be a White Sox in 2023?
PitchatRisktoZisk replied to chitownsportsfan's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Well JR'S mouthpiece has spoken. Don't want to trust this multiple championship roster to an unproven manager. Let's retread "old and safe". Don't hire someone that would demand upgrades to the analytics, scouting, development, and training staffs. Heaven forbid the new guy gets to hire his own coaches...... that would threaten guys like Boston and McWavin's lifetime appointments. Let's hire a guy like the former St Louis manager that will just be happy to have a job and take whatever the FO gives him. 42 years of incompetence and counting. -
White Sox Mgr Speculation Thread
PitchatRisktoZisk replied to southsider2k5's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Washington would be a good hire....... as infield coach. Jeez, can we get young analytics driven coach from a winning organization? Nooooooooo. We get this year's version of TLR. I'm out. -
[RUMORS] Possible clubhouse drama information leaked?
PitchatRisktoZisk replied to joejoesox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
I'm hoping the Sox don't f$$$ this up too. Jason wants to be here and the vast majority of Sox fans want him back. This feels like the FO trying to save a few $'s and low ball him since he will miss a few games due to his Fox assignments. Virtually every really good baseball pbp guy has other gigs and their teams deal with it just fine. If the Sox f$$$ this up, get ready for Kasper and Gordo on the call. If that happens I'm watching the opponent's feed. Silence would be better than those two. -
White Sox Mgr Speculation Thread
PitchatRisktoZisk replied to southsider2k5's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Lollllllllll -
Billy Donovan. Virtually no season overlap and huge cost savings. What's not to like?
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I'm willing to wait another 72 hours for Rick to have his own "day". Don't stop now boys!