Bob Sacamano Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jan 6, 2017 -> 02:14 PM) We could technically see Avi Garcia in RF, Willy Garcia in LF, and Leury Garcia in CF at some point. And it would be the saddest OF in White Sox history. I want that to happen with Gio soto throwing to Geo Soto! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 We might as well throw Hawkins to the wolves while they're at it. Of course, that would put their scouting more under the microscope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Eric Longenhagen @longenhagen 17m17 minutes ago Eric Longenhagen Retweeted Chicago White Sox Big raw power, 80 arm, lotta swing & miss. Scouts didn't like the adjustments he made this year to try to fix it. Good numbers at AAA, tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Ryan Sheets @RyanSheets_ Willy Garcia led the International League with 17 OF assists in 2016, giving him 53 since the start of 2014. Most in @MiLB in that span. 0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 MLB Pipeline @MLBPipeline #WhiteSox claim OF Willy Garcia off waivers from #Pirates. Garcia No. 15 on Pittsburgh's Top 30 Prospects list: http://atmlb.com/1Tad5Vl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Does he look like Miguel Cabrera Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 QUOTE (bmags @ Jan 6, 2017 -> 02:10 PM) D'oh, sorry. I wonder if we carry 5 outfielders We could. Especially if the DH spot is open. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 I can't believe they DFA Coats whiled keeping 4-6 other guys, none of whom can hit .330 ++ in AAA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 QUOTE (oldsox @ Jan 6, 2017 -> 03:25 PM) I can't believe they DFA Coats whiled keeping 4-6 other guys, none of whom can hit .330 ++ in AAA. Avi Garcia career AAA line .367/.412/.532 Coats is just a guy. All these other guys are just a guy too most likely, but at least they have some sort of break out skill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Lopez's Ghost Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 QUOTE (oldsox @ Jan 6, 2017 -> 03:25 PM) I can't believe they DFA Coats whiled keeping 4-6 other guys, none of whom can hit .330 ++ in AAA. Welcome to White Sox baseball 2017! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Coats always screamed AAAA player. I wouldn't be surprised to see him get through waivers. Solid move to trade him for a toolsy younger OF'er. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Ah they old high ceiling terrified of taking a walk hispanic outfielder. Sox have a history of success with that....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 6, 2017 -> 02:34 PM) Ryan Sheets @RyanSheets_ Willy Garcia led the International League with 17 OF assists in 2016, giving him 53 since the start of 2014. Most in @MiLB in that span. 0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes The sox are going to turn him into a pitcher! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jan 6, 2017 -> 01:31 PM) I like Coats So do I But the Sox apparently don't. They keep an awful lot of throw-hard no-control middle relievers around in his stead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jan 6, 2017 -> 08:42 PM) So do I But the Sox apparently don't. They keep an awful lot of throw-hard no-control middle relievers around in his stead. Because throw-hard no-control relievers can turn into throw-hard good-enough-control relievers who become valuable assets to teams in the late innings and on the trade market. Nate Jones was a throw-hard no-control reliever. Now he's the most valuable piece in the White Sox bullpen and probably their best reliever. What is Jason Coats realistically going to turn into? Probably a 4th outfielder at his ceiling. That's a nice player to have in the system as a depth player. If Coats passes through waivers, he's gonna get a chance to make a name for himself, I guarantee that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 QUOTE (CWSpalehoseCWS @ Jan 6, 2017 -> 05:42 PM) Coats always screamed AAAA player. I wouldn't be surprised to see him get through waivers. Solid move to trade him for a toolsy younger OF'er. They both played in AAA last season. Compare the numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 After reading more about Garcia's power potential, strong arm , high k-rate and low walk rate, Tank's face immediately popped into my head. I'm not saying that's a good or bad thing, just that's who Garcia reminds me of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jan 6, 2017 -> 10:12 PM) Because throw-hard no-control relievers can turn into throw-hard good-enough-control relievers who become valuable assets to teams in the late innings and on the trade market. Nate Jones was a throw-hard no-control reliever. Now he's the most valuable piece in the White Sox bullpen and probably their best reliever. What is Jason Coats realistically going to turn into? Probably a 4th outfielder at his ceiling. That's a nice player to have in the system as a depth player. If Coats passes through waivers, he's gonna get a chance to make a name for himself, I guarantee that. If he doesn't, he won't?? Or, you won't? Edited January 7, 2017 by oldsox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jan 6, 2017 -> 02:25 PM) I want that to happen with Gio soto throwing to Geo Soto! All in on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Coats: 330/394/579/912. 10 HR 69/25 K/W. Garcia: 245/293/366/659. 6 HR 131/31 K/W They played in the same league. Sox always need hitters, so which one do we take? Coats has hit at every level. When he gets promoted, he falls back a little, then gets going at new level. Give him the opportunity. No, we will give the opportunity to some clown who has never really hit, but who has a lot of outfield assists. Makes sense to me. Gotta sign Willy and his assist machine. Gotta cut somebody. Let's cut a guy who can hit. Not Leury Garcia, who can neither hit (in majors) or throw out anybody from the outfield. Not one of three catchers who will have no offensive impact on the team, and who would have cleared waivers. Not Avi or Lawrie. Not one of several pitchers who you can just tell have no place in the long term scheme of things. This decision was probably made by the same guy who traded away Tatis on a re-building team for Shields and his big game contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFutureIsNear Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Put your tissues away people, Coats will probably go unclaimed. And even if he does he's just going to sit in another team's AAA team. It's just Jason Coats, relax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 QUOTE (oldsox @ Jan 7, 2017 -> 06:38 AM) If he doesn't, he won't?? Or, you won't? If he passes through waivers, he will get a chance to make a name for himself with the White Sox. They are going to be very bad for at least 2 years and that could easily be 3 years. If Coats keeps raking in AAA, they'll make room and give him another shot in the majors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jan 7, 2017 -> 11:09 AM) If he passes through waivers, he will get a chance to make a name for himself with the White Sox. They are going to be very bad for at least 2 years and that could easily be 3 years. If Coats keeps raking in AAA, they'll make room and give him another shot in the majors. I don't expect Coats to be anything special. That said, I do find it annoying that his "shot" in the Majors was 58 plate appearances, and many on this board think that's enough to make a decision on him. Didn't Bregman begin his MLB career 0-34? And, my favorite example: Mike Trout's first 60 career PAs: .185/.250/.352 Jason Coats' first 58 career PAs: .200/.298/.340 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jan 7, 2017 -> 11:24 AM) I don't expect Coats to be anything special. That said, I do find it annoying that his "shot" in the Majors was 58 plate appearances, and many on this board think that's enough to make a decision on him. Didn't Bregman begin his MLB career 0-34? And, my favorite example: Mike Trout's first 60 career PAs: .185/.250/.352 Jason Coats' first 58 career PAs: .200/.298/.340 Ok, just stop there. Do not put Coats and Trout in the same comparison. I mean the only reason they should be in the same sentence is if Coats is bringing Trout his bat or somethin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jan 7, 2017 -> 11:24 AM) I don't expect Coats to be anything special. That said, I do find it annoying that his "shot" in the Majors was 58 plate appearances, and many on this board think that's enough to make a decision on him. Didn't Bregman begin his MLB career 0-34? And, my favorite example: Mike Trout's first 60 career PAs: .185/.250/.352 Jason Coats' first 58 career PAs: .200/.298/.340 I don't think anyone has made any decision on Jason Coats. The White Sox are likely making a strategic gamble that Coats will pass through waivers based on his talent. It's probably a safe bet. Like I said, if he keeps raking, he'll be back up eventually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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