Until Dan Clark breaks the Yankees news, I keep it in just rumor territory...?

1 minute ago, maloney.adam said:

This offseason is a disaster. Do any of the insiders know if they just didn’t read the market correctly or this was their plan all along. 

A couple times in late November they did say that they misread something about the market but were never clear about what. They have continued to insist that there is a market for Kimbrel the whole time, despite the lack of movement. 

 

Dickerson only got $1 million. 

Haha, Baez and Garrett in same division again

2 minutes ago, maloney.adam said:

This offseason is a disaster. @Harold's Leg Lift, @Y2Jimmy0, @Pal Do you know if they just didn’t read the market correctly or was this their plan all along?

Jimmy was lauding the Harrison signing like 3 days ago.

3 minutes ago, fathom said:

I don’t think that site is legit 

I'm not seeing any buzz about that "trade" anywhere, so it would seem that account is more fake rumor.

1 minute ago, Sleepy Harold said:

 

I wonder how much cash they got. Either way, the Reds make no sense. Miley is better than Minor and they let him go for free to save a few $. Now they trade for a lesser pitcher making the same $. 

3 minutes ago, chw42 said:

Eh, I wouldn't say Machado has been worth every penny, but Harper has. The thing with these mega deals is that the players need to produce a lot at the start so they can off-set the losses towards the end of the deal. If Machado isn't putting up 5-6 WAR every year for you until he's 30-31, it's hard to recoup a lot of that value in the later parts of the deal. So far Machado's had 2 really great months, one decent season, and one subpar season.

Yes, absolutely with these deals. He's worth 16.2 bWAR if you prorate 2020. He's still 29 though, if he puts up 4 war on average the next 3 years, and 2 WARs every year after, the contract would still have surplus value. And he should eclipse those numbers.

 

3 minutes ago, maloney.adam said:

This offseason is a disaster. @Harold's Leg Lift, @Y2Jimmy0, @Pal Do you know if they just didn’t read the market correctly or was this their plan all along?

I would pump the brakes a bit until all possible targets are gone.  The “dream” scenario of trading Kimbrel for prospects, including them in a deal with Sheets for Manaea and then signing Conforto still exists.

 

1 minute ago, Sleepy Harold said:

 

In English

 

 

1 minute ago, Sleepy Harold said:

 

Now the White Sox are in the trade contention, the Twins and the Yankees are also pursuing pitcher Frankie Montas and Sean Manaea, per a source familiar with the situation.

1 minute ago, Sleepy Harold said:

 

For people who need a translation:

 

Just now, chw42 said:

In English

 

 

Just now, Quin said:

For people who need a translation:

 

You jinxed me, god damnit.

That guy broke the Baez deal, apparently. 

 

I wonder if anyone on this board is one of those sources. 

Edited March 16, 20224 yr by chw42

 

I still don't know what he means there

9 minutes ago, maloney.adam said:

This offseason is a disaster. @Harold's Leg Lift, @Y2Jimmy0, @Pal Do you know if they just didn’t read the market correctly or was this their plan all along?

They havent lost out on anything realistic. Conforto is still there. I'd still bet Kimbrel gets traded and there will be another SP. 

Honestly I'd rather have Manaea than Montas.  He'd be cheaper, and he really fits what the team needs.  And he isn't an icky cheater pants, which is nice.  It would suck to trade for Montas then have him get busted again.

 

Add Manaea and Conforto, and we are set!  Too bad Conforto really feels like a dream.

Edited March 16, 20224 yr by turnin' two

10 minutes ago, fathom said:

Feels like it’s same guy who had a “burner” account a few years ago. It’s amazing to me how these people have all these sources and yet are never correct.

Some folks have weird kinks.

3 minutes ago, turnin' two said:

Honestly I'd rather have Manaea than Montas.  He'd be cheaper, and he really fits what the team needs.  And he isn't an icky cheater pants, which is nice.  It would suck to trade for Montas then have him get busted again.

I think there's also extension potential with Manaea. 

 

Edited March 16, 20224 yr by Jack Parkman

1 minute ago, turnin' two said:

Honestly I'd rather have Manaea than Montas.  He'd be cheaper, and he really fits what the team needs.  And he isn't an icky cheater pants, which is nice.  It would suck to trade for Montas then have him get busted again.

The rotation could use a lefty as well.