Sox sign P Chris Flexen, DFA Carlos Perez

[South Side Hit Men]

I personally would have signed one or the other catcher (Stassi or Maldonado) I’m also not going to fret about it. None of this will matter beyond 2024-2025, and none of the guys DFA’d or sent to AAA (Lee) are amounting to anything.

I’m with @nrockwayand @CaliSoxFanViaSWside on this. I accepted the likely budget in November.

People here demanded a vast roster overhaul and they are getting it. This is what it looks like when Hahn leaves you with dick at the major or minor league levels, and you are stuck with albatross deals like Benintendi.

[ChiSox59]

Just now, South Side Hit Men said:

I personally would have signed one or the other catcher (Stassi or Maldonado) I’m also not going to fret about it. None of this will matter beyond 2024-2025, and none of the guys DFA’d or sent to AAA (Lee) are amounting to anything.

I’m with @nrockwayand @CaliSoxFanViaSWside on this. I accepted the likely budget in November.

People here demanded a vast roster overhaul and they are getting it. This is what it looks like when Hahn leaves you with dick at the major or minor league levels, and you are stuck with albatross deals like Benintendi.

Pretty tough to call any deal at $15M AAV an “albatross” in today’s game. 

[Tnetennba]

57 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

Days before the Rule 5 draft, multiple people were screaming that the White Sox could launch up to a dozen guys off this roster, and fill it up with fodder from other teams, and nobody argued with them for 4 pages. How is anybody getting angry at DFAing guys we would have gladly launched for hiding their counterparts from another organization on the 40-man for a season?

 

51 minutes ago, Balta1701 said:

And yet Perez was not one of those guys, I think most people would have said keep guys like Perez theyre more likely to be useful than a Martin Maldonado.

For this guy I’d probably have dropped Lambert. 

That part. Perez might totally suck, but he's young and has more promise than a washed up Maldonado.

[Tnetennba]

56 minutes ago, Quin said:

Is it not obvious?

Tanking for that sweet sweet 10th pick. f*** Yes.

[South Side Hit Men]

4 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said:

Pretty tough to call any deal at $15M AAV an “albatross” in today’s game. 

For five years it is.
On a Reinsdorf team it is.

He can’t play anything beyond LF, and he failed miserably at that last season. At least with another albatross like Jason Heyward, he could cover CF and RF.

[Lip Man 1]

1 hour ago, Tnetennba said:

This is what's bothering me about it too. What exactly are we doing here?

If you count the three days Flexen spent in the Mets org before they dumped him last summer, he's on his 4th team in 2023 alone. Like, amassing all of the old and bad is accomplishing what exactly?

To a certain extent I think the organization thinks the fan base as a whole is naive. They think making a flurry of moves will show said fan base they are "trying" to win. Also remember JR's press conference comments. he doesn't like to be embarrassed he's said they want to get better quickly.

This is basically all a show-and tell exercise for the fan base, nothing more and I suspect the fan base won't be buying it.

[WestEddy]

46 minutes ago, Balta1701 said:

And yet Perez was not one of those guys, I think most people would have said keep guys like Perez theyre more likely to be useful than a Martin Maldonado.

For this guy I’d probably have dropped Lambert. 

I keep thinking Jimmy Lambert's a key bullpen piece. I guess he's more on the Jake Petricka path. One slightly better than average season, and then years of suck. 

[WestEddy]

13 minutes ago, Tnetennba said:

That part. Perez might totally suck, but he's young and has more promise than a washed up Maldonado.

I think they saw Perez as a guy who just throws the ball back to the pitcher. Perez isn't going to "work" with pitchers like they envision Maldonado doing. Any spare innings when both Maldonado and Stassi are down can go to Lee and Hackenberg. I think Hackenberg's the dude until Quero breaks through. 

Now watch the Padres grab him and turn him into an All-Star. 

[supernuke]

2 hours ago, Quin said:

Is it not obvious?

I don't think this is a Tank, I think this is the status quo until Jerry is gone.

[South Side Hit Men]

2 minutes ago, supernuke said:

I don't think this is a Tank, I think this is the status quo until Jerry is gone.

Has been since 1981.

 

[Quin]

1 hour ago, Tnetennba said:

Tanking for that sweet sweet 10th pick. f*** Yes.

Read the barrel of the cannon 

[Tnetennba]

12 minutes ago, Quin said:

Read the barrel of the cannon 

Por que no los dos?

[The Mighty Mite]

21 hours ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said:

We keep signing guys to major league deals that shouldn’t receive major league deals

Getz is building a halfway decent AAA team.

Edited December 30, 2023 by The Mighty Mite

[caulfield12]

1 hour ago, The Mighty Mite said:

Getz is building a halfway decent AAA team.

How many of the acquisitions are under 25?

[Tnetennba]

1 hour ago, The Mighty Mite said:

Getz is building a halfway decent AAA team.

Footballers come to the states to play when they can no longer hack it in a European league. What's the baseball equivalent for washed up ballplayers? Because that's what Getz is building in 2024.

[FloydBannister1983]

23 hours ago, The Mighty Mite said:

Is it possible that they’re slashing payroll to make it easier to sell the club, what other explanation for one bizarre signing after another.

No.

[Quin]

Is there any chance that Chris Flexen gives us a month better than Mat Latos' first month in 2016?

[Balta1701]

4 hours ago, WestEddy said:

I keep thinking Jimmy Lambert's a key bullpen piece. I guess he's more on the Jake Petricka path. One slightly better than average season, and then years of suck. 

This guy definitely fits the Swingman role as he’s been in it. If they think they need a Swingman fine, but they have one in Lambert. If they think they needed a bullpen lefty like the other guy they signed, fine sign him but they have Banks, why hold these guys when you are signing the same players? At the potential expense of the tiny bits of young talent you actually do have? 

It probably won’t matter this time, but eventually it does matter. Most of the time the guy you DFA isn’t very goo, but you do this enough and you’ll come out a loser on a player.

[Tnetennba]

25 minutes ago, Quin said:

Is there any chance that Chris Flexen gives us a month better than Mat Latos' first month in 2016?

There's better chance of Cat Latos doing that than Flexen.

[Autumn Dreamin]

Let Banny cook.

[caulfield12]

6 minutes ago, Autumn Dreamin said:

Let Banny cook.

In GRF vs. Safeco?

[Donny Lucy's Avocado Farm]

He was good for... (can't remember team or year, so looks it up on bref)...

ok, he's never been good. 

[Donny Lucy's Avocado Farm]

On 12/29/2023 at 7:01 PM, baseball_gal_aly said:

Can someone turn this into Getz? 

 

 

 

Glad my meme is living on in the post-Hahn world of Sox fandom. 

[Chick Mercedes]

On 12/29/2023 at 4:54 PM, fathom said:

I’m not sure I’ve ever seen a team dumpster dive this much.  Just sell the team Jerry

You don't know that the Sox have hired a disciple Mickey Goldmill's philosophies to train Flexen into a champion

[Chick Mercedes]

1 hour ago, Autumn Dreamin said:

Let Banny cook.

But to BOUNCE back, one needs to have bounced once first.

 

I think people are being too disappointed about the Sox moves, or lack therof. They have told us a long time ago to stop believin'

 

But seriously, they have told us without telling us to stop being disappointed. '24 is a writeoff, there is no quick turnaround in the plan despite the original  propaganda. Accept it. Enjoy it and relax.