2 hours ago, southsider2k5 said:

Pretty easy for me honestly. 

He kind of already fits around Hollywood though, doesn't he?

It's not like he screwed up the trade deadline as bad(ly) as Crochet did...

 

26 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

He kind of already fits around Hollywood though, doesn't he?

It's not like he screwed up the trade deadline as bad(ly) as Crochet did...

 

He was one of the biggest failures of the rebuild.  He was supposed to be a superstar Frontline starter.  Instead he failed at that, then failed at relieving, even revealing that he refused to listen to coaching.  I couldn't care less about the rest of it.  I won't ever root for the guy.

4 hours ago, southsider2k5 said:

Pretty easy for me honestly. 

Pretty easy not being interested in baseball at all, honestly.

We totally fleeced the Cardinals! I can't wait to see the young talent we got from St. Louis develop!

Yikes Tommy 

Makes sense since the Cards are out of it,

8 hours ago, KipWellsFan said:

We totally fleeced the Cardinals! I can't wait to see the young talent we got from St. Louis develop!

Where's our Lance 1 Dog Johnson...?

We didn't even get CHARLIE FREAKIN' IL TILSON...

"The Sox traded for the wrong Vargas!"

Fun reread.

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What a great thread. Props to anyone who wants to chime in and call themselves out here.

I'm not sure there were many who liked this trade when it happened. The reaction got worse and worse as Vargas struggled on a VERY bad Sox team. The clip of him sitting in the corner of the dugout with a look of absolute despair mimicked what we were feeling.

Now that clip is used in the "how it started...how it's going" videos. Talk about an incredible turnaround. Turned out to be a pretty good trade.

Obviously all of my opinions ruled but it’s fun to read just to again be impressed that Getz actually did the impossible thing I didn’t think he could do in this thread - he improved our player development and scouting decisions.

Everyone’s opinions are understandable when you remember the learned helplessness we were in where we knew we had to get a player already good because they would only get worse on our team.

no zealot like a convert - and I’ve never been more of a believer in a gm than I am or Getz right now.

3 hours ago, DoUEvenShift said:

Fun reread.

If you like reading people whine and talk trash about things they're wrong about. Which I do.

Still think we should have gotten Cesar Prito included.

1 hour ago, SoxBlanco said:

What a great thread. Props to anyone who wants to chime in and call themselves out here.

I was wrong and love it

I was suspended at the 2024 deadline, so I wasn't able to comment.

That being said, my views were that Vargas was a great acquisition, Fedde was smoke and mirrors, and Kopech was a head case who wouldn't amount to much beyond that season. I felt we needed to have patience for Perez and Albertus. Hate to say I told you so...

Will go down as one of the great trades in White Sox history. And we got Fedde back and he has been a contributor this year. IMO, Vargas has been the first half AL MVP.

I think Vargas, beyond his play on the field, has been a huge addition. He's a leader, everyone seems to love him, and his attitude is contagious. He and Mune have really seemed to hit it off. Add that to his team MVP play, and he's one of the best acquisitions in a long time.

Beautiful reread. Miss some of these posters.

51 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

I was suspended at the 2024 deadline, so I wasn't able to comment.

That being said, my views were that Vargas was a great acquisition, Fedde was smoke and mirrors, and Kopech was a head case who wouldn't amount to much beyond that season. I felt we needed to have patience for Perez and Albertus. Hate to say I told you so...

Damn man, you nailed it.

1 hour ago, hogan873 said:

I'm not sure there were many who liked this trade when it happened.

Even if they didn't like the trade there were still a few early believers in Vargas. Shoutout to:

@Jake

On 7/29/2024 at 2:42 PM, Jake said:

Lot of negativity on Miguel Vargas for a 24 year old with less than a year of MLB experience, not-that-horrible production in MLB, and fantastic minor league production

On 7/29/2024 at 2:56 PM, Jake said:

Well we don't have to denigrate his minor league numbers just because he was replacement level in the majors. His league-adjusted AAA stats have been fantastic. I've been around long enough to know that this is no promise of MLB production, but his sub-MLB track record is what it is: very strong.

@bmags

On 7/29/2024 at 2:58 PM, bmags said:

I don’t know. I kinda like Vargas. 

@Chisoxfn

On 7/29/2024 at 3:19 PM, Chisoxfn said:

I like Vargas - he's got real upside as a hitter and I think worse case he plays in the outfield....but that isn't thrilling.

On 7/29/2024 at 5:10 PM, Chisoxfn said:

I think I saw he isn't a free agent until 2030 - so I think the bright side here is - this is a guy who is going to be around for a while, presuming he can figure out big league pitching. If he can hit like he did in the minors, than I think there is something legit there bat wise.  Supposedly he was making some progress this season - my Dodger buddies were a fan of his. 

@PaleAleSox

On 7/29/2024 at 6:14 PM, PaleAleSox said:

I mean Vargas has just as much of a chance to be a legit offensive piece as anyone else they would have gotten probably. And no, I'm not defending the trade. 

@ChiSoxFanMike

On 7/29/2024 at 6:15 PM, ChiSoxFanMike said:

Am I the only one who doesn’t hate this?

I thought it felt light too. But Vargas is essentially a top 100 prospect. I would have taken him for Fedde all day long when they initially signed him. Kopech and Pham don’t have a ton of value to me so I guess I can live with two lotto tickets for them. I would have liked another prospect or two but I don’t think like this is as bad as everyone else is saying. 

@Y2Jimmy0

On 7/29/2024 at 7:11 PM, Y2Jimmy0 said:

Like taking a chance on Vargas. Really like both young bats. Those are the types of bats available in this market. The trade still seems at least one player short though. I thought Fedde had more value. 

@greg775

On 7/30/2024 at 1:43 AM, greg775 said:

Vargas highlight reels look good by the way. Since Pham is just another guy and Kopech nothing special, and Fedde a nice reclamation project gone good (could go bad any time) that trade might be OK. Vargas might be what Moncada wanted to be. He's young and looks good in a uniform. Getz called him one of the brightest young bats in the game. This trade might be OK cause those guys the Sox gave up were nothing to lose sleep over. Sox are due to have a prospect excel. Maybe Vargas will be the answer in the corner outfield.

You guys get to claim OG status of "Miguel Vargas Fan Club" Sorry if I missed anyone, skimming through quickly between work calls.

3 hours ago, caulfield12 said:

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Joendry Vargas's numbers so far are decent, but he hasn't been past A ball. He's only 20, so I can see why the Dodgers would wanna hang onto him in 2024 (18yo) but either way I'm glad they got Miguel. I can't remember who was the Chicago radio guy it was, I think Levine, but they said the Sox chose the wrong Vargas

i saw TRADE and fedde and vargas casually scrolling and almost fell out of my chair...