ron883 Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 I'm just trying to stay optimistic about Elijah Tatis. Let's hope he breaks out too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 Interesting to see who is #3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 1 minute ago, southsider2k5 said: Interesting to see who is #3. That is interesing...but hard hit balls are overrated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Interesting to see who is #3. He was towards the top of this list last year too, partially because he gets so many PAs. However, this year, all these hard hit balls are going straight into the ground Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 Just now, wegner said: That is interesing...but hard hit balls are overrated We were being a bit hard on Abreu...when he hits it so hard, sometimes it just looks like an awkward swing and hardly ever graceful. He’s never been an aesthetically pleasing swing, like most lefties with longer swing paths. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 Boston traded Babe Ruth 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, soxfan49 said: Boston traded Babe Ruth Probably should have added the caveat, modern baseball history. And the Ruth trade was almost purely a financial transaction...not about trading baseball talents for each other, orvtalent evaluation, as the Red Sox already knew what they had in him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 10 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: Probably should have added the caveat, modern baseball history. And the Ruth trade was almost purely a financial transaction...not about trading baseball talents for each other, orvtalent evaluation, as the Red Sox already knew what they had in him. Plenty of actual Hall of Famers and future Hall of Famers have been mentioned in this thread, many of whom weren't complete lotto tickets when traded. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 I'm gonna toss in Miguel Cabrera because the Marlins got absolute jack shit for one of the best hitters of all time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 1 minute ago, Quin said: I'm gonna toss in Miguel Cabrera because the Marlins got absolute jack shit for one of the best hitters of all time. Andrew Miller and Maybin were a lot better (career-wise) than the Sabathia/LaPorta multi-player deal, for example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 1 minute ago, caulfield12 said: Andrew Miller and Maybin were a lot better (career-wise) than the Sabathia/LaPorta multi-player deal, for example. They still blew chunks for the Marlins. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, caulfield12 said: Probably should have added the caveat, modern baseball history. And the Ruth trade was almost purely a financial transaction...not about trading baseball talents for each other, orvtalent evaluation, as the Red Sox already knew what they had in him. Certainly the Sox trade of Tatis had a big financial side to it also. Shields was a pitcher who had just been pounded by NL lineups recently and then pummeled by the owner. You would have thought this would give the Sox the upper hand in a trade or even made then think twice about a guy getting lit up in the NL with one less hitter to face. instead the Sox appeared desperate giving up not a lottery ticket which is pure luck but a skilled young player who obviously had skills because they gave him $1M . If the Pads weren't willing to pay down Sheids salary without Tatis and with the NL and his owner shitting all over him Hahbn should have looked elsewhere. He just got fleeced and we all knew it not because of Tatis hindsight but because Shields was bad. Edited August 11, 2020 by CaliSoxFanViaSWside Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 This video is still pure gold, love the part about He Who Shall Not Be Named... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox1917 Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 2 hours ago, Perfect Vision said: I personally like watching and cheering for Tim Anderson, Yoan Moncada, and Nick Madrigal. If Tatis was here, at least one of those guys wouldn't be. If tatis was here he would be your favorite player, anderson would have been moved to the outfield, and youd be rooting for all four of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 2 hours ago, BigHurt3515 said: Now I think we all know he wouldn't be nearly as good if he was still with the Sox. Plus where would Tim Anderson play!!!!??? /s kinda you are being sarcastic but i doubt hes as good coming up in our system Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 7 minutes ago, reiks12 said: you are being sarcastic but i doubt hes as good coming up in our system Unless we somehow got him hurt, I don't think there was anything stopping this kid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 5 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: Unless we somehow got him hurt, I don't think there was anything stopping this kid. let me have this one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 1 minute ago, reiks12 said: let me have this one Go watch Robert, he'll make us feel better pretty soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 I find it funny that sox fans hate Sammy Sosa so much (myself included) that he never finds his way to these discussions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 27 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: Unless we somehow got him hurt, I don't think there was anything stopping this kid. I totally agree here, I don't get this idea the padres developed him. The guy was in the majors at 20, by the time they saw him he physically looked completely different. The sox DID see tatis play on backfields and they screwed up. Had they had him, he'd be just as good as he is now, I am sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 1 hour ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: Certainly the Sox trade of Tatis had a big financial side to it also. Shields was a pitcher who had just been pounded by NL lineups recently and then pummeled by the owner. You would have thought this would give the Sox the upper hand in a trade or even made then think twice about a guy getting lit up in the NL with one less hitter to face. instead the Sox appeared desperate giving up not a lottery ticket which is pure luck but a skilled young player who obviously had skills because they gave him $1M . If the Pads weren't willing to pay down Sheids salary without Tatis and with the NL and his owner shitting all over him Hahbn should have looked elsewhere. He just got fleeced and we all knew it not because of Tatis hindsight but because Shields was bad. Yes, this too. And Erik Johnson, to boot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 Thanks good post C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 (edited) 47 minutes ago, bmags said: I totally agree here, I don't get this idea the padres developed him. The guy was in the majors at 20, by the time they saw him he physically looked completely different. The sox DID see tatis play on backfields and they screwed up. Had they had him, he'd be just as good as he is now, I am sure. Exactly .All this crap about him still being in the minors or not being as good is pure crazy speculation still thinking the Sox cant develop elite talent that had a strong pedigree. The Sox trading Tatis is the definition of looking a gift horse in the mouth. He was gifted to them because either not a lot of teams had the INTL funds to get him or didnt believe in his talent as much as Tatis Sr has said Marco Paddy did. They gave him away because they paid 700k for him and was getting back $31M in salary from the Padres for an old pitcher getting thrashed in the NL with another couple years on his contract. What a windfall ! CA-CHING CA-CHING!! Edited August 11, 2020 by CaliSoxFanViaSWside Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michelangelosmonkey Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 3 hours ago, JuliusO1274 said: Well the Padres obviously saw something because they wanted him as their lottery ticket. Everyone sees something in their lottery tickets. If you are going to take a wild swing...go with a 17 year old shortstop with major league roots. If you are going to buy a lottery tickets don't play popular numbers (because you will then split with someone else). The Padres were't going to get Curbelo because he wasn't a lottery ticket. So they looked way down at the bottom of the Sox barrel and said...well throw in this guy. And yes...if there is a criticism...don't ever put a lottery ticket in a birthday card because its almost always worthless but when it's not its a disaster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 Don't posts several pages worth of paywalled content. That's a hard no for site rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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