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Sounds like you’re happy about it.

Hahahahhhahaha. Maybe you should fire your head for not knowing itself from your ass. My god, you’re a fucking tool.

This thread sucks a big fat dick. Like could this OneDog clown be any more excited about getting destroyed by the Twins. The best part is advocating for more tanking when our draft record is atrocious and our player development staff is complete garbage. Makes total sense to burn more of Moncada, Giolito, Anderson, & Eloy’s service time so we can rack up a bunch of top five picks that will help us five years from if ever.

He has a fucked up habit to take personal shots at posters who share stuff on this board that he gets on his high horse about and disagrees with. Whenever he stops doing that, he will be solid.

Okay, but Berrios, Kepler, Rosario, and Buxton aren’t going anywhere and Kiriloff is a serious prospect. And their front office, many of whom come from the Indians, have shown they know what they’re doing. The division is not going to roll over just because Hahn keeps promising multiple championships. Sox need to get smarter.

I like how people are saying Vaughn is being punished for past draft picks by Sox but aren’t applying the same concept to Abrams, who is getting punished because people are still upset about Courtney Hawkins. Abrams is also punished because many people in these threads just fall in love with comps, and comps are stupid.

You can take it as complaining but in 2016, Twins lost 103 games...easily the most in MLB. The following year they finished 2nd and played Yankees as Wild Card. Not content with that, they fired Manager of the Year, Paul Molitor a year later. You could lay the Twins lineup side-side with Sox coming into 2019 and argue the WS were stronger at most positions. The Twins made some smart acquisitions and the Sox brought in McCaan, Colome and $20 million of hot garbage. If you don't see the subpar functional areas with this organization you are blind or kidding yourselves.

24 year olds struggle from time to time? No fucking way!

Maybe they can cut him and sign him back on as team mascot. I’m sick of seeing him and his .613 OPS.

I’m not sure what me moving to Nashville has to do with the overall tone of the board? I admittedly was beyond pissed when the Sox failed to land Machado and I was a whiny little b**** about it for a stretch. However, after a while I realized the same old complaining was adding nothing to the overall quality of the board and I could tell others were sick of hearing it, so I made a conscious effort to tone it back substantially. I am not telling people they can’t be pissed off with ownership or management, but the same comments do not need to be repeated ad naseum in every single thread. As for you, my post really wasn’t aimed at you or your K-rate fascination. While I may wholeheartedly disagree with the extremes you take your viewpoint, you are least making a baseball argument and not just whining. Message boards need dissenting opinions to generate worthwhile discussion.

Make Alonso help the grounds crew

Lol - you might want to see to get some Windex out and clean your mirrors before you go throwing this kind of comment out at anyone else on this board. Talk about trolling!

This troll can't even count.

This site has become unthinkably bad. There are some serious fans who seem to understand that the rebuild is going to suck and it's going to be trying but equally can see the positives coming out of the farm system. There are a ton of great posters who have been here for a long time but it seems like an excessive number of posters with the level "Starter" or lower simply came here to complain.

or guys like Anderson, Collins and rodon.

It’s completely reflective of what the site has become. One horrific series and the trolls come out guns blazing. Really sad to see what’s become of this board.

Does anyone realize the Twins are really damn good? They have the best record in baseball. They have the best run differential by a lot. They are 9-1 in their last 10 games. This team got their dick kicked in by the best team in baseball, not the Marlins. It's going to be ok.

The white Sox should demand that they can get more than that from his offensive profile from their development staff.

The agenda to be all negative all the time. I disagree that the first round has been awful as the most recent ones other than Fulmer which was bad unless he becomes a really good reliever. Most of the picks are still unproven either way. If you followed my posts I'm not a fan of JR. I just dont think that EVERY SINGLE THING the organization does is the worst possible thing in the history of the world. Ice been pretty fair in my criticism of both the front office and maybe overly critical of the blame on JR.

What agenda? That the Sox history of first round picks is awful? That is a fact, not an agenda, and claiming it to be otherwise is the true revisionist history. “A good pick at the time” in the 2009 draft would have been Mike Trout who was drafted two picks after Jared Mitchell. Mitchell is a bust. Is Jerry Reinsdorf part-owner of your clinic?

again I will need to hire you for the clinic since you can predict the players that will bust due to injury. just because they get injured doesn't mean it wasn't a good pick at the time. you live in revisionist history just to further your agenda.

That's an amazing point

And you kept them long enough for all of us to complain. We get it, you're unhappy. Take it up with your therapist.

Madrigal 2-3.

One example of “unthinkably bad” comes later in this thread by none other than you when you referred to the long-time poster GreenSox as a “troll”. You may not agree with his point of view on Sox matters, but the guy is equal parts thoughtful and consistent with that point of view. That provides far more value to the board than reckless name calling.

Especially since Yoan has said he doesn’t like leading off

2022 lmao. Congrats you’ve got yourself a job for life. Just keeping pushing back.

Hawkins was bad. I still think Mitchell would have worked if he hadn't ruptured his post tib tendon. that's a devastating injury for a speed guy. I should hire you for my clinic the way you can predict who will get hurt. it will drive up the business.

Those are fair points. I took exception to you saying: Madrigal’s winning mentality is going to help him hit with more power supposedly. That's fucking bullshit, man. Nobody said that. Talk about taking things out of context.

I don’t know how you could possibly argue this

Yes, cut back coverage until nobody goes to you for their coverage then point to that as to why you have no coverage. As I said. The trib has trashed their sports section, it isn’t a meaningful metric.

Trib barely has a Sox beat writer, a lot of that is their own fault.

This is the part I'm losing faith in. We keep rooting for these draft picks, only for these guys to turn out to be underwhelming. I refuse to root for oodles of losses, just so we can get another Zach Collins or Carson Fulmer in the system.

Hard to take any of your opinions serious when you figured out just this past weekend that the Twins have a very good young core and will be a formidable division rival for the next several years.

I get that and youre right, but they did lose each game by 7 runs, and have scored 1 run the last 25 innings. That is a little beyond facing a hot team, especially since they were also given many runs.

Yeah....or they just played the best team in baseball?

I use the site daily, but almost exclusively for minor league talk and during the offseason just to read about rumors. Unfortunately the gross negativity is seeping in to the minor league threads now too and certain members have a melt down every time Madrigal goes hitless.

Poppy - I hate being such a blatant dick, but it’s time we take action and clean up this site given all the trolls, whiners, & straight haters roaming around here. It’s starting to get out of control and the conversation is suffering as a result. By no means should negativity & criticism be banned, but it needs to be far more focused, objective, and relevant to the conversation at hand. If the small group of posters here who are polluting the overall quality of the site are unwilling to change on their own, then maybe the rest of us should be more vocal and actually tell them how we feel about their terrible contributions.

Many would have said same about brewers. But they have a smart front office that is smart enough to use trades and free agency to provide short term value while players like Kiriloff and Lewis arrive.

it could have if he chose to. He just didnt use the upper cut swi g in games to increase HRs while decreasing OBP and average. it was a choice. Madrigal doesn't have the power available.

A faster DJ LeMahieu is what I've been saying since the draft. In his prime that's about 30+ doubles, 5+ 3B, 25+ SB, about 10 HR with gold glove defense and a .310+ average. Probably about a 3-4 WAR guy.

Shows you how much we'd overachieved the first six weeks. The losses are gonna be coming fast and furious in June and July and August. Season already is over except for meaningless at bats for our younger hitters and meaningless innings for our pitchers.

I think you've made it clear that when it comes to Madrigal you are one of the least hopeful people here.

Excuses? For f*ck sake. Minnesota spent years in the sh*tter, and have finally started to play competitive baseball. They are a good baseball team as currently constructed. It was bound to happen, because unlike the White Sox, they chose to rebuild years ago, and not continue to drag mediocre squad through the mud and call it a competitive unit. The White Sox are currently amidst a complete ground zero rebuild, have a lineup with more holes in it than a fine Swiss cheese and a pitching rotation with effectively one guy who is established for the future, and a bunch of guys who are looking like pen arms at best (MAYBE Lopez turns it around, but it's looking bleak, and I don't have much faith that Covey can put his stuff together consistently). Those aren't excuses, those are the facts. If you want to brush them off, that's your prerogative, but don't b*tch at other people because you choose to live in blissful ignorance.

25-1 …. that's pretty hard to do at the MLB level.

This would have been a much better team this year if Kopech and Rodon were in the starting rotation. It will be curious to see what the front office does this off season.

it's gonna suck when cease and dunning are average major leaguers at best

Rebuilds aren't linear just like prospect development. The Sox rebuild might have to take a few steps (years) back before it can go forward. The only way the Sox can compete next year is if Jerry spends like a drunken sailor. Even signing Cole, Rendon, Ozuna, and Grandal might not be enough as the bullpen will still be bad and the rotation will be relying on a bunch of young kids with fragile arms.

I never expected Madrigal to hit for power. My concern is that he is not hitting for average and he isn't walking enough. He needs to be hitting over .300, with an OBP close to .400. That would play, even without the power. However, he is a long way from those numbers. He has the ability to put the bat on the ball, but as someone here has observed, that may be to his detriment. It would be better if he were a little more selective, and tried to work counts to get a pitch that he can hit hard. Being so small, his strike zone should be conducive to drawing walks, at his current level. Pitchers at Advanced A Ball don't have very good command. I don't want him to be trying to increase his launch angle, and hit fly balls, but it would be better if he could hit more line drives. For a guy who had such an advanced hit tool, and was expected to be fast tracked through the Minor Leagues, he has a lot to work on. Look how far the other prospects have fallen, since moving to Birmingham, from Winston Salem. He better be hitting close to .350 in Advanced A, if he is going to be able to cut it, at AA and that's still a long way from the Major Leagues.