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This might be the worst thread of the year.

It's not that simple. I've been a Sox fan since I moved to Chicago as a 10-year old. After 30 years in the area, I have moved several times for business reasons. Each time to a city that had major sports teams. Not one time did I become a fan of the team(s) in those cities. I have remained a fan of the Chicago teams (except the Cubs, of course). It was easier for me to go through a divorce than it would be for me to stop being a Sox fan. There is nothing "voluntary" about it. It's a part of my life.

So for the last couple months I feel like I've done a lot of damage to my reputation as a poster. I've put a lot of things out there that I wish I didn't, and it took me until this weekend to realize what was going on. I'm pretty messed up right now. Not only am I dealing with being on the autistic spectrum, I've been dealing with chronic pain for the better part of 20 years. About two years ago, it started to get really bad and it got so bad by the end of 2018 that I couldn't do anything anymore other than sit at home. I tried to fight through it as much as I could but it just kept getting worse. In April, I decided to have surgery to hopefully correct my issues. I've been dealing with the after effects of it(Physical therapy and another surgery) for the better part of the last 6 months. I'm not handling it well. I haven't been able to do much of anything for 6 months. Even so, the PT isn't far enough along that I can work or go do things I enjoy yet. Please forgive me for being an uber grouch for the last 3 months or so because I'm pretty pissed off about how long this is taking and the rate of progress. I'm going to try not to post angry anymore and sit on them for 30 mins before submitting. I'm a lot more testy and assholish than normal right now. I have just started to realize I've been posting angry way too much. Please be kind. Cheers, Parkman.

Samson will be on Mully & Haugh tomorrow

It's too bad people don't realize following a sports team is a completely voluntary form of entertainment. The team itself has absolutely no obligation to you as a fan.

If Betts could get us to the *Promised Land* next year - SECOND PLACE - then by golly, pull out all the stops to get him!!

It wasn't a personal attack. It was an attack on how excited you get on a topic and never drop it. What is with sentence #2? That's your opinion. I can easily say it doesn't matter what you think, too. What are we, fourth graders? My nephew is autistic so don't tell me what I do and don't get. Thanks.

Now you're just being an asshole and this completely crossed the line. Don't be a dick, Richard. I came back to call you out. This is just entirely mean-spirited and hurtful.

I stopped reading when I got to the "Trade Moncada" part. Was the rest of the post decent?

I think you actually might be insane. Also, why is he rebuilding right now if the goal is 2nd place finishes? That’s goes completely against your claim.

That’s awesome. Thanks for sharing. My parents and sister are Sox fans, and it’s something we can share together. When my family was back in the south suburbs a couple of months ago, I took my dad to a game. It was just great to be back there with him, after all those years that he took me to games back in the 80s.

Yep. I always thought it was weird that my dad was a Yankees fan (he grew up in upstate NY) but didn’t really care about them one way or another. He taught me a lot about baseball and he supported my budding love of the White Sox when I was growing up but Yankee games didn’t dominate the TV and he showed no real emotion about them. I think the ‘94 strike kinda wiped him out, and I don’t think I’ll be as chilled about as he is, but I definitely understand now how fandom changes from boyhood into manhood. Honestly, I think one of the most beautiful aspects about the game for me these days is how it ties my whole life together. I’ve had a whacky life and I’ve been all over the world, but for all the differences, the Sox have always been there. Whether it was living in Chicago and secretly listening to them on my portable radio after bedtime, or living in Spain and having stateside relatives send me game tapes, or being in a faraway state at college using this newfangled Facebook thing to gather fellow Sox fans for the World Series (unsuccessfully, I might add), or fiddling with the radio at an airfield in southern Afghanistan so I could listen to Chris Sale dominate some poor bastards, the Sox have always been there tying it together. So I think that’s a cool impact on my own life, and I’m grateful for it.

Ditto. I’ve been a Sox fan since ‘82 and was admittedly too into them from age 8 or so well into my 20s. But age, marriage, kids, and my career put an end to that. The Sox are still great, but I have no qualms turning off the TV in August during those bad seasons (most of them ?) and not giving a thought to them again until March. The Sox are great but, at the end of the day, they’re just entertainment.

Some people take this to a fever pitch level. I love the White Sox and I’ll watch them or at least check the box scores every day during every season for the rest of my life. I’ll buy merchandise and on rare occasions travel to Chicago to go to games in person. But I’m not that ten year old who cries at losses anymore. Maybe it’s the recent mediocrity or maybe it’s just all the worries of being an adult, but my fandom has changed. My wife, my kids, my money, those are much bigger things for me now. If I could have guaranteed success in all of those categories but never see another winning White Sox season, I’d take that deal in a heartbeat. Hell, I’d happily take the White Sox never winning a single game again if that was my reward. Love the team but my priorities are very clear.

Sorry to hear about your divorce, but nobody should be that addicted to a sports team. If you can’t walk away from something if it negatively impacts your life (a bad relationship, alcohol, gambling, etc.), you have a problem. The “I don’t have a choice” line that I’m reading here is bullshit. Some of you need to man up and take control of your lives.

Ok, Twins, that was your shot. Enjoy your offseason.

I agree for the most part, but I think Walker’s combo of bat speed & plate discipline provides far more potential than most give him credit for, especially if there’s any chance he can stick in CF (doesn’t sound like that’s been ruled out just yet).

I agree. If Cole is unrealistic, I want Wheeler, Keuchel, a bullpen arm, Grandal, and a one-year RF.

QFT My parents are both products of the south side. I moved to suburbs when I was 9. Being a Sox fan was as much a part of my life as eating breakfast or doing my homework. I didn't have a choice. THere were two things in my house growing up that were off-limits, and anything "Cubs" was one of them.

Yeah I want nothing to do with Odorizzi. Give me Wheeler and Keuchel.

I have no recollection of ever posting a joke about Jerry Reinsdorf!!!!!

You create financial flexibly so you can sign guys like Betts in free agency. You don’t trade critical cost controlled assets to pay Betts a market rate contract.

That hiatus didn't last long.

It would be absurd to consider trading Cease and Collins for one year of Mookie Betts at 28 million. My goodness. For the white sox, future WAR is worth more than present WAR. they could merely sign Mookie without giving anything up a year from now if they were that interested. It would be one of the most nonsensical trades in MLB history.

I see the Sox spending money this offseason, but not really being in on any of the elite free agents like Cole/Rendon/Stras/Bum

David Samson is a piece of crap but i wouldn't shoot the messenger in this case. There isn't a doubt in my mind that Reinsdorf told Samson that. He apparently told Jack McDowell the same thing. 670 talked about it this morning in the 5 at 5. They're trying to get Jack McDowell on. Reinsdorf didn't deny any of it either. I hope this blows up this week. The only reason Reinsdorf responded in the first place is because Scott Reifert received tons of e-mails from pissed off fans after the audio leaked. The PR machine is in total spin control right now.

I am beginning to think that Jack McDowell twitter account is a fake.

I think it was just a theoretical, for fun “look how much talent we could get for Yoan & Timmy” exercise. Obviously the Sox aren’t going to do that trade, so no reason to take the post too seriously.

Unless they suffer their usual injuries, I actually disagree with this. The Bulls will be a very interesting young team to watch when healthy. Do I expect them to be one of the top teams? Absolutely not, but the road in the East to make the playoffs isn't nearly as daunting anymore with guys like LeBron, Kawhi, etc. all out West now. Durant is out for the season so the Nets won't be much of a threat yet with just Kyrie. It's basically Philly, Milwaukee and a whole bunch of meh in the East. I can see the Bulls challenging for a bottom seed.

All ya'll may not agree with Stone coming to JRs defense here, but you can't deny it was a sick burn yo.

wat

http://twinsdaily.com/topic/35173-front-page-twins-alds-game-2-recap-nothing-works-twins-lose-12th-straight-to-yankees/# This thread is full of schadenfreude laughs. I especially like the one that says “This is confirmed. Yankee Stadium smells like the armpit of the older brother who never let you win.”

Pushover? I’m blaming the coach for a portion of today’s loss on top of the players, while you b**** about Mitch who didn’t even play today...

Thompson and Dalquist

Why the hell are some still b****ing about Trubisky after this game? Shocking as it is, he had NOTHING to do with this loss.

Quite frankly, Jerry and company sucked before this rumor came out and they still suck. This hasn’t changed anything. The Sox would still be best served if Jerry sold.

It only took 2 hours ladies and gentlemen! He has already backed off. I called it 18 hours ago: "If not sooner, he'll definitely apologize for such an outburst by next April and then when someone reminds him of it, he'll say "I already said I was way out of line with that. I have autism and sometimes this happens." It's too easy."

watching the white sox the last decade sure has been "perineal". cuz they play like taint get it get it

Grandal is a terrible idea. Average defensive catcher on the wrong side of 30 who has had two lucky offensive seasons and is more likely to hit .220 than .250. Hard Pass. Ozuna or bust this offseason. If the Sox did that, the front office should be absolutely crucified. That's the worst trade I've ever seen.

Your claim from the OP is that he’s trying to end up in second place because it’ll strong us along. I reject that. I think money matters most to Jerry, but he also wants to win. So he’ll pay Herrera and Keppinger and Laroche in an effort to WIN for cheap, but end up falling short. Second place is often the result but it’s not the intent.

The evidence is there. It's overwhelming. Just look at the last two and a half decades of White Sox baseball and it's clear as day. It puts all of the absurdity and madness into context. Everything makes sense now that didn't before.

Cripes, Jack. You can believe this unsourced absurdity if you want to, but you don’t have to insult everyone’s intelligence for wanting a bit more evidence on the matter.

I think Reinsdorf just got exposed here and a lot of you are in denial. If you look at the evidence objectively it points to this. Use your brain people.

What a dumb thread.

Clickbait trash with no way to verify that he knows listeners/readers will eat up. Modern media

I'm actually feeling... optimistic? about the Bulls this year? Not like I expect them to be a contender, but they are in the "I actually want to watch the games and am at least passively interested in what happens"

Top $ for a career year. Pass. Hard. Sox have no business trading any pitching anyway.

Stop with the trying to improve one position by weakening another one.