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In the Sox defense, maybe no one there knows enough about baseball to give a clinic.

Im usually a guy who doesn't care about the outside of the sport type of things but this is just pathetic and really illustrates how awful of an organization this is. Im so embarrassed to be a fan of the White Sox.

Yeah, he’s generally not bad to people, unless those people happen to be Sox fans.

This is the kind of little s%*# that you have to keep buttoned up and rolling smoothly when your team is awful. Instead, this happens

Scheduled to have a baseball clinic for kids in Brighton Park neighborhood today, not more than a 15 minute drive from the stadium, and no one from the organization shows. Just awful. Whole org from bottom and especially at the very top is so pitiful. Yet the cubs charities are able to renovate several south side fields no problem.

Fish rots from the head down. JR is in severe decline in cognitive ability and organizational ability. He needs to sell or step down otherwise as controlling partner. This is am unacceptable level of incompetence and just speaks to how poorly run the entire operation is at this point.

OOOh, so the 5 -15 year olds aren’t GIVING the clinic. ?

Just heard Vargas homered. No matter what we think of the trade, how sorry the Sox are, etc I hope this kid succeeds here

I'm convinced Cags is winning a Cy Young, MVP and ROY with the luck this org has holy s%*#.

First Kopech, then Crochet, now Thorpe. Sox love TJS obliterating early years of control. They need to sacrifice a goat or something to change the luck.

cheering for #18 here, the more Ls the better for Jerry's amazing legacy

This guy had a 7.99 ERA at OK City and has been terrible everywhere he’s been. Hey Getz, just give it up, this isn’t your schtick, you sucked as a ballplayer, you sucked as minor league director and you really suck as a GM.

The organization has completely collapsed

Hearing this disappoints me because of the children.

Still feels like Vargas could be had in a buy-low deal, not for your best trade chip that you are trying to sell high on. Would have preferred that Twins player (I assume you probably could have grabbed a 19-year old or two in that deal as well).

Another game where Robert looks like the worst player in the sport

Leave john alone Find the other 1,000 sox personnel ( players, owners, gm, scouts) to Hate

No. Schiffren is horrendous and Stoney has mailed it in and is just collecting paychecks.

ESPN Ocho has the Savannah Bananas. First time I’ve seen them. It’s a bit.. different.

This is just hell, he’s one of the few you actually care about going forward.

Screw that....send his ass to Kelly Park and have a catch with some kids.

The White Sox are the Spirit Airlines of professional sports organizations.

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Eder's profiles much better for a bullpen role. I'd put both him and Nick on the Sox pen right now and just cut some of the dead weight. There's no point sending these guys out to get hammered as starters in Charlotte's bandbox. Let's just see if we can make serviceable bullpen arms out of them.

He has absolutely nothing to work with. Outside of Crochet, this is barely a AAA pitching staff.

Every time I look at Sheets’ stats, I can’t believe he still gets playing time.

Joe Ryan's career high in strikeouts in the MLB is 12. Just.... gonna leave this here and see what happens after his start.

What the f*** did Sox fans do to deserve this

No they just need new ownership to come in, fire everyone on the baseball side of the operations from top to bottom and hire competent people.

If Eloy's career OBP really was .790 he would be a no doubt Hall of famer. Pache too.

to the IL after 45 innings with a 90mph fastball? no wonder the yanks and padres gave up on him so quickly. Pros prob told them about something funky in his delivery that's adding extra stress to his arm. oh well. worst case, he didn't project to be higher than a #3 anyways. Shut him down, teach him how to throw correctly, and hope for a better 2025.

they only get better once they leave Chicago proper ?

They are all dead to me.

I thought he lost velocity this year compared to last

70% of the time it's a TJS two months from the diagnosis or so. We're fucked. Also dude did it throwing 90, lol we are an impressive sack of s%*#.

Sox need to invoke the 25th Amendment.

At this rate I'm expecting the team to tell Gene Honda he's actually an awful PA announcer. It's like they're taking all the things they did well off the field and decided those have to suck as well.

5-15 about the right age to live to see the next SoxFest.

Probably will send them vouchers for the next SoxFest

This guy is fucking terrible, hell fit right in.

I get that sometimes mistakes happen - everyone is human, but this is a real bad look. Organization better do something big time to make up.

Now the thing is - if the reality is the Sox advanced scouting missed on Vargas, than we have a problem. This gets into the real issue with the Sox. In this era - if you aren't going to spend big on payroll (and JR as much as I can complain about his spending - he's consistent and any GM who works for him should know what JR's constraints are). With that said - he isn't horrifically cheap - he just isn't going to go 5+ years and massive money on pretty much anyone...you got to know that going in. That also means you need to leverage the resources in different ways and make it clear to him - spend money on baseball people, advanced scouts, development areas, etc. Fund it by being cheap with MLB players in the first few years (with JR you know you have to do it that way) - but make those infastructure investments to get that part of the operation right and when you do - you will see the benefits emerge on the major league side and can than start to actually pivot and run things the right way. There are no quick fixes though - but I at least appreciated Sox went for some guys further along. Not saying we have any proof to think we can develop the position guys - but I'm hoping we see another wave of hiring as the season ends again where we see the franchise infuse more talent and more individuals into the scouting and development ranks (last year there was some - Bannister being the notable one - but a lot more has to happen - including a major relook on the international front).

Which year?

I’m not a fan of the Twins but Minnesota is a cool state and I wouldn’t want to leave this problem there

Both can be true. That they rushed him back and he is lazy.

Keaschall is three years younger than Vargas and also would have had a sixth year of control, not just five like Vargas. The Sox probably still could have gotten those two prospects from the Dodgers for Kopech in a direct trade with them. Getz is insane if he thinks adding Vargas was important for the present when the Sox have no one ready at so many other positions. Keaschall would have made much more sense since the Sox are still waiting for other guys to be ready like Montgomery and Quero, and perhaps Ramos.