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Was at the Kannapolis game tonight. Montgomery looked solid, although none of his hits was particularly well struck and he was clearly out at first on one of them. Mongollon's homer was a monster, and he hit three balls really hard. Good player although obviously not a very high ceiling. But generates great bat speed for his size. Really small guy, probably 5'5. Bonemer was, to me, easily the best prospect on the team and in the park. He just looks the part, thick and athletic looking, very fast bat. It was easy for him, he was all over the MB reliever who was tough for everyone else to square up and made Montgomery look kinda silly. Good fielder, really good athlete. Very high on him after watching, I wouldn't be surprised if he makes it to Birmingham this year. Wolkow is struggling. Burrows is overmatched.

Being right and “winning” the argument has become more important than anything else.

that was a great fucking AB too.

Nope, go away Palacios

Back just in time for the playoff push

Vaughn gets MVP for Twins today

Awesome AB

He has POSITIVE fWAR! .1 but still. We'll take what we can get. Been a bit unlucky xwOBA is .319 actual wOBA is .289. Needs some more LA and he'll be a fine ballplayer to have around. Also, can the usual culprits not derail this thread. That's why I made it. Ty.

The saddest thing is, the White Sox and Bulls obviously and the Blackhawks have known for a year or two what was going down with Comcast, yet, just like their teams, they weren't prepared.

For someone who posts so much you never really actually say anything.

Thanks?

20% k rate, 4.6%bb rate, iso of 130 and a wRC+ of 28. That's now -1.1 fWAR for his career in 2345 PA. He's 27 year old and can't play a position. CUT HIM.

This s%*# gets frustrating.

Benintendi is one of the few guys I think has a chance right now

They should have gotten the ball from Palacios’ single just in case it’s his last hit in the majors.

You and I like Baldwin the best i think. He just seems like a useful utility guy. So far he's been able to play every position at least adequate which a lot of guys we've tried never could. If nothing else that's a useful skill. Last one was prime Leury I guess.

Can you imagine Moncada being moved around defensively as much as Baldwin has been (as some people wanted between 2B and 3B)? The excuses that would be flying around.

Taylor is a lot less exciting as a closer.

Strikeout, double play.

Don't think he would have made the team if Drury and Rojas weren't hurt to start the year, and then enough others have been hurt to keep surviving.

The Twins aren't a good team, so how about the Sox stop getting slapped around and win the series.

Stay hot Getz

I really dont think so. I love sports and this is just not necessary for me, there isn’t one scenario I can think of that would make me feel it is needed. I’m done playing the game they want us to play. They provide s%*# products and tell US that we need to spend more, year in and year out, and when they f*** up they want me to spend more. I’m good

I'm sure they've got TV people for that, like Schriffen.

Well yeah. That's what happens when the product on the field is the worst in the history of the sport. I didn't watch a single Bulls' game this season. I won't watch a single White Sox game in 2025. For the first time in probably 30 years. I'm not alone. That's what Jerry Reinsdorf has done.

There are indoor options that are virtually plug and play. But still not an ideal solution. The Sox aren't worth the effort.

I’m sorry who is calling people lazy and stupid

The Sox gave up an interesting lottery ticket for him, so the only reason to do this is to hold him for a few months and turn him into 3 lottery tickets or 1 or 2 prospects with upside who are closer than the DSL. Kind of an arbitrage or what the pinhookers do with yearlings. I guess someone like Bergolla would be satisfactory (although if he doesn't show any power, his ceiling is backup infielder).

This comes off as a review written by somebody who never visited The Rate. Decaying? LOL.

Showing White Sox games once a week or so...let's say every Sunday afternoon, isn't really going to accomplish all that much. Those 25 games works out to 1 for every 6.48 games played per week, essentially. Weren't the White Sox even on WGN more often than that when nearly every Cubs' game was broadcast...certainly all the home/day ganes.

This attendance talks means nothing to me. When jerry decides to put a product worth watching the RATE will have fans that come and watch. Many are like me right now where they refuse to give Jerry our money until he decides he gives a Flying F about the product on the field.

When the White Sox give you a $5 million contract, you will either suck so bad no one will want you, or you will get so hurt no one will want you.

I'll take his posts over repetitive arguments any day.

And I see no problem with that, it just isn’t anything that I personally need. And I know that there are plenty people in both boats here. but the issue isn’t even really OTA. OTA broadcasts aren’t gonna increase their ratings, airing it on cable will. The issue is that this dumb channel is available on all of the networks -except- the most widely used cable carrier in the area. And now, they are all probably feeling a different pain, which is advertisers wondering why they should spend their money here

Extreme Arrogance is what got them in this predicament in the first place.

Given how they have zero leverage I'd suggest keeping the free option but what do I know. JR probably thinks he's got a stronger hand then he does. Comcast doesn't need to overpay for this product.

Robert Channick in the Tribune has reported that one of Comcast's demands is that CHSN discontinue the free over-the-air broadcasts on channel 62: So what's the best option for fans and the teams? Should CHSN jettison the antenna viewers to potentially reach the million Comcast viewers in Chicago -- albeit on Comcast's more expensive Ultimate tier? Or should they forgo Comcast, which has been steadily losing customers nationally for years? Maybe there's some split of free games on WGN/WJYS and Comcast-exclusive games that would satisfy everyone? Given the performance of Bulls, Hawks, and Sox, it's hard to imagine that anyone but the most devout fans will be motivated to either fiddle around with an antenna or pay an extra $20/month to Comcast. So until the teams get better, I doubt their TV revenue numbers are going to get better.

Pretty sure the actual problem is that the CHSN folks are too lazy and stupid to realize that not everyone wants to do OTA, whether they're too lazy, too stupid, or whatever other reason. It's not like this is new information.

Sure, but also the ratings had already collapsed last year.

Free over-the-air digital broadcasts are the exact opposite of the absurd Sportsvision analog/descrambler set-up. One problem now is that there are some who are too lazy or stupid to set up an antenna and run a cable to it. Those that have are amazed at the cable quality of over-the-air free broadcasts.

The strategy, from what I could interpret, was to get these guys for minimal prospect impact and flip them for something better. how is that going? Booser looks like a stroke of genius. Dude looks like Matt Thornton with the life on his fastball. Assuming he can keep it sort of up, he could net a very nice return. Gilbert has been less encouraging, though serviceable. As of this moment I don’t suspect he has much value.

What would you like to know? Ask a question. The Dodgers are the team that best exemplifies the philosophy behind the article. The Dodgers have employed this practice and have lost former Top 5-10 system catchers because of 40 man issues, as well as traded Liranzo with Sweeney for Flaherty...then also have Dalton Rushing, a Top 30-40 MiLB catcher backed up behind Smith and Barnes. The problem with Teel and Quero is they're going to have to play 1B/DH secondarily where their position and value will be downgraded...and it's likely neither would hit 850-925, enough to justify a spot at that position in the first place. In general...having 4-5 quality SS's like the Dodgers have in their MiLB system is ideal. The White Sox currently don't have ANY with plus tools other than maybe Bonemer...who might actually be a 3B or 2B or 1B/DH when all is said and done with filling out his frame. In theory, the White Sox should trade from their catching depth for a legit two way CF or SS, but that's easier said than done here. And the Dodgers actually have the most players at both positions but no need for either Teel or Quero. So maybe they have no choice but to take on a character concern player in CJ Abrams...who's not a great fit for the rebuilding timeline. The main problem there is Getz supposedly purged the Sox of all such players now.

There's a difference. CONTENDING teams on a limited budget SHOULD be signing those veterans...there's basically no choice but to hope for some impact there, knowing that 2/3 just might not work out, will eventually fail, as many guys in their early to mid 30's often do. This is a classic case where the "spare parts" end up being worth more than the sum of the individual pieces if only they can find the right environment to thrive as "complementary" players and aren't called upon to do more than they're capable of. Then you have the White Sox....who should be playing 75-80% youth under ages 27-28 and approximately 20-25% veterans. Once again, those veterans shouldn't be comprising over one half the starting line-up. And let's be honest, Gurriel is 41 years now, he's on his VERY last legs. He's not even DeJong or Pham or Robbie Grossman, this is his last team in professional baseball, at least in MLB.

Greg, I think 98.9% of the board would probably agree with that sentiment...especially with the recent news that Martin Perez might end up missing all of the season (for surgery), when all is said and done. Also, Shane Smith only pitched 94 innings last year...so they're going to have to cap his innings increase somewhere in the 130-150 IP area, so he might end up getting "babied along" like Garrett Crochet down the stretch (no more than 3-4 innings per start the final two months.)

This is a little project I've been meaning to get off the ground, I wanted to put together a little script to aggregate stats from all levels at the end of each week. I decided to start with the pitching stats and finished some code on SP high level stats. I have probably another dozen or so planned scripts including a bunch on play-by-play and statcast data (available for MLB & AAA). Each week I'll probably roll out some more "sections ", hopefully the HTML formats well in here and if anyone has any suggestions/comments/requests please et me know (and please check my math!). White Sox Weekly Stats - Week of 2025-04-14 to 2025-04-20 Chicago White Sox - Pitcher Stats: SP name role g ip h r er bb k hr p s era k/9 bb/9 s-% Burke, S SP 2 8.10 11 9 6 5 7 3 163 98 6.48 7.56 5.40 60.12% Martin SP 1 5.10 8 4 4 1 3 2 90 60 7.20 5.40 1.80 66.67% Smith, S SP 1 4.20 4 3 3 1 3 1 73 45 5.79 5.79 1.93 61.64% Cannon SP 1 4.10 3 0 0 2 4 0 88 52 0.00 9.00 4.50 59.09% Pérez, M SP 1 3.00 5 4 4 2 0 1 52 34 12.00 0.00 6.00 65.38% Charlotte Knights - Pitcher Stats: SP name role g ip h r er bb k hr p s era k/9 bb/9 s-% Dunn SP 1 6.00 3 0 0 2 4 0 81 46 0.00 6.00 3.00 56.79% White SP 1 5.00 9 7 7 1 6 2 93 63 12.60 10.80 1.80 67.74% Nastrini SP 1 4.00 7 5 4 1 3 2 85 50 9.00 6.75 2.25 58.82% Iriarte SP 1 4.00 5 4 4 3 5 2 84 45 9.00 11.25 6.75 53.57% Rodriguez, C SP 2 3.20 9 10 10 4 3 4 105 60 24.55 7.36 9.82 57.14% Birmingham Barons - Pitcher Stats: SP name role g ip h r er bb k hr p s era k/9 bb/9 s-% González, W SP 2 9.00 7 3 3 7 12 0 158 98 3.00 12.00 7.00 62.03% Smith, H SP 1 5.00 3 1 1 0 5 1 65 46 1.80 9.00 0.00 70.77% Schultz SP 1 3.20 6 3 3 5 2 0 82 50 7.36 4.91 12.27 60.98% Taylor, G SP 1 2.10 2 2 1 4 5 0 59 32 3.86 19.29 15.43 54.24% Gowens SP 1 0.20 4 4 4 3 0 1 35 15 54.01 0.00 40.50 42.86% Winston-Salem Dash - Pitcher Stats: SP name role g ip h r er bb k hr p s era k/9 bb/9 s-% Keener SP 2 7.20 12 9 9 2 8 2 158 101 11.05 9.82 2.45 63.92% Gordon SP 1 6.00 1 0 0 2 9 0 84 48 0.00 13.50 3.00 57.14% Murphy SP 1 5.00 2 2 2 2 3 1 64 41 3.60 5.40 3.60 64.06% McDougal SP 1 4.20 2 1 0 4 7 0 84 50 0.00 13.50 7.71 59.52% Bockenstedt SP 1 4.20 3 4 4 4 5 0 82 46 7.71 9.64 7.71 56.10% Kannapolis Cannon Ballers - Pitcher Stats: SP name role g ip h r er bb k hr p s era k/9 bb/9 s-% Pinto SP 1 6.00 5 3 2 1 6 0 72 49 3.00 9.00 1.50 68.06% Reyes SP 1 5.00 6 3 3 1 4 2 71 50 5.40 7.20 1.80 70.42% Brizuela SP 1 4.10 4 1 1 1 5 1 66 48 2.25 11.25 2.25 72.73% Sinibaldi SP 1 4.00 3 1 1 0 4 1 53 38 2.25 9.00 0.00 71.70% Oppor SP 1 3.20 6 4 4 0 6 0 73 50 9.82 14.73 0.00 68.49% Rodriguez, Ga SP 1 2.20 3 5 3 4 3 0 65 33 10.13 10.13 13.50 50.77%

Very kind of you to say so. Part of it is because the "spirit" (for wont of a better word) has basically been beat out of me. We can discuss, argue about minute aspects of the franchise...trades, injuries, prospects et al but the absolute bottom line is this, and everyone here knows it... Until JR leaves either standing on his feet or on a slab this franchise is going nowhere, period...full stop...end of story. Until that happens if you think about it nothing else really matters does it? Given the situation (and the almost assured lockout right after the 2026 season) I may try to bring back more historical items like This Day In White Sox History or interviews, something that reminds the fans who are left of better days.

Lip you've been pretty restrained this season. Appreciate your posts and also appreciate the restraint. Sometimes less is more. You've been a great addition to the board the last few years.

Only -.2 position player fWAR through the first 1/8 of the season. We had -6 fWAR from position players last year (lol, wut?) so this is big time credit to Getz.

Here's the thing. We keep getting told about how all of these new guys need time to start showing their changes, and that we should start to be seeing their changes. Now all of the sudden during this new leadership, we have a huge spike in major surgeries, six so far, maybe 7 depending on what happens with Perez. It is fair to ask if it is something new that is being done, or taught, that is leading to this mess. Historically the Sox were on the bottom of these numbers under Don Cooper, and with the change to Katz, we moved to the middle. Now with Bannister being added to the mix having a year in the system, the guys he has been teaching are getting THE injury and surgery. Why is that?

25. Guaranteed Rate Field — Chicago, IL Woof. It’s the worst ballpark in active service in the majors, but getting to it is easy. The Chicago White Sox fans are long-suffering but generally quite kind. Imagine you went to the dentist, but somehow, there was a baseball game happening. That analogy best describes the physical sensation of going to Guaranteed Rate Field. The Dodgers mercifully do not visit Guaranteed Rate Field in 2025. Pros: You get what you pay for. A stadium with a dedicated public transit stop does deserve some praise. Cons: Just about everything else. The stadium is a decaying, unloved monument to Jerry Reinsdorf’s greed. I have never experienced such apathy radiating from a place. https://www.truebluela.com/2025/4/17/24120766/dodgers-stadium-guide-ranking-2025-elizondo-adric Don't be fooled...they only ranked 26 stadiums, total, and The Oakland Coliseum was #26, which doesn't exist any longer as an MLB ballpark.