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I AM HARDER THAN REESE MCGUIRE IN A DOLLAR TREE PARKING LOT

oh sorry, didn't realize that thing was on

The Sox have a chance to fix literally everything they screwed up in the late 80's. Stadium design, stadium location, activities around the stadium, stadium views, etc. Let's do this right.

I found this part interesting here, but lots info in the piece.

Forget lame "coattails" type of fan crap, If LAD offers him a Dodgers like contract, and the Sox offer him a Sox like contract, THAT should mean something to him.

Good job with the win. Don't want to see Bido again unless it's late innings and the Sox are up by 10. Bido:

Bido is going to be a crazy pull on the 2026 White Sox sporcle in 10 years.

Should've kept Paez. This is the exact situation you put him in.

Sox about to be 9-14! Panicans on suicide watch!

Ant-man with the inside-the-parker!!

I'd say yes because the "we'd never get something for Wilson" became a running criticism of Getz and those of us who thought Wilson might eventually get traded forsomeone ,whenever it seemed like they'd never get anything for him .

That is BS. Ump is just pissed his s%*# gets reversed every time

Is this the perfect baseball team?

Baseball is fun again!

I'm curious what people are projecting Murakami's future price to be? Fangraphs had his offseason projection in the $20-22m AAV range with some caveats. Less generous projections were around 5/$80-90m. Matt Olson is at $22m/year and he was coming off of a 39HR/111 RBI season with a .911 OPS (.271 AVG) when he signed that 8 year extension. Naylor (🤢) is a quality 2-3 WAR 1B and didn't crack nine figures in FA. Brent Rooker is a little older, but extended for 5/$60m coming off of a 39HR/112RBI/5+ WAR season. Alonso's $31m salary leads all 1B this year and is generally regarded as a modest overpay. There's just a pretty hard cap to what teams spend on a non-premium position (and how many teams even try to in a given season), which is exactly why it's a place Jerry has found himself comfortable before. He's paid a top ~10 annual salary for 1B more often than not over the past 15 seasons, and I doubt anywhere else on the diamond comes close. Mune is basically living up to the good eye/huge whiff/huge power scouting report that just failed to generate a massive bidding war. Barring some wild contact improvement, I don't exactly expect the same teams to be offering him Vlad Jr money in two years. Although even if they did, there's so little on the books in 2028 that the Sox could beat that AAV and still have a lower payroll than today lol Basically, I'm here: I don't think Getz would balk at Mune being the nine figure guy he's already said he expects to sign at some point, and even 5-6 years projects to be at the lower end of that. If he wants to stay here and doesn't suddenly start hitting .300, they can pay market price. I expect them to make a good faith effort. And FWIW, nothing I've seen/read about Mune suggests he's in some rush to jump ship. Most of his NPB fanbase seems to be rooting for him to repeat his Swallows journey with the White Sox, where they were the worst team in NPB the season before he joined (also with some doubts and at a discount) then he stuck it out, proved his worth, re-signed, and helped lead them to success. He's made more than one reference to wanting to be a part of "writing the story" for a team, which is why a clear starting role was a part of the Sox' appeal.

benintendi isn't a leadoff guy, he swings out of his shoes every AB and doesn't draw walks or steal bases venable is fucking dumb

I know projects of this size take time, but damn, wish it were quicker.

"Make them"? Why? They obviously don't want to be there.

A few things seem to be coming together. #1: The Sox want to build a new ballpark outside of Bridgeport. If they wanted to stay in BP, it would be really easy to come up with a plan in the old ballpark + parking footprint. #2: They seem to want to be as close to downtown as possible. They are very intensely working to create space south of the financial district, with Ishbia going to work acquiring an old rail yard with tons of work needed to do to get it to the state for a ballpark. #3: Because of the complexities of this deal, and the dance that needs to be taking place between Amtrak and the Sox, this is NOT going to be cheap. There was talk of Ishbia paying for a stadium, and undertaking a project like this with a ballpark at it's center seems to confirm that idea. Maybe they try to get some money for the state, but I have to image they would rather own this, and then create the ballpark village as the real profit center long term for the ownership group. #4: With the FIre across the river, the ballpark village concept makes more sense, as you now have another professional franchise in the area with all of those dates worth of people to come to the area for the village and games. #5: None of this will be done by the time the lease is up. Looking at the timeline, this could well be lining up with Ishbia taking over the Sox. I imagine they will sign a short term lease extension to get the park done, and then the village construction takes place after the opening of the park in the early to mid 2030's. Was the timeline for the ownership transition aligned to take place with the new ballpark? Stay tuned.

Ugly bridge to nowhere 🤣 Put a ballpark there, it won't be nowhere anymore. Your location isn't even where they'll be building and creeps into the BNSF/Metra rail yard, which to this point there's no indication they're buying.

Game thread here:

Spirited comeback in Kanny, 7 run rally bottom 9 to walk it off after trailing the entire game Boughton got his first hit during the rally: Stiven Flores has looked really good, he was 4-5.

Sox played well against the As, who I think are a good team. The only lead the As had all weekend was in the 11th inning of game 2. Keep it up in Arizona!

STOP DHING BENI AND BATTING HIM LEADOFF

Sandlin done after two scoreless with 4 k. Davitt finishes 4 scoreless with 5k.

Murakami has pretty much been as advertised. Huge power along with lower batting average and decent defense at 1B. His eye at the plate is really good, probably better than expected. That has kept his strikeouts lower and his OBP pretty high. If he can keep this up, the Sox could have their first 40+ HR guy in a while. And if that's the case, he will be getting a lot of attention from other teams in the off season and next season. I would love to see the Sox extend him, but as others have mentioned, as long as JR is involved, it's a long shot.

Knowing people is half the battle!

After all, you can't waste a year.

This is something I was really hoping for - home runs into the Chicago river. Seeing Bonds hit home runs into McCovey Cove was awesome.

How embarrassing for Reinsdorf that his underlings have to consistently fire themselves because they care more about the integrity of his org. Except AK, he would have stayed forever.

Good for Billy. Go, enjoy something other than this putrid franchise that is sucking your life out of you

People like this are the reason nothing gets done in the U.S. anymore and every project is so expensive.

Also...they have to pay someone lol. Essentially everyone else we can pencil in for 2028 and beyond will be pre-arb, and they aren't going to run a $30m payroll. If Mune keeps it up, I don't think there's a better bang for your buck FA bat available in 2028 who would also be a timeline fit for the Montgomerys, Roch, and co. And though he's skeptical of FA pitching, we've seen Jerry pay a popular 1B even without the unique Japan market element at play. There's also just not a natural window to get some crazy trade haul. It won't be this deadline, the labor situation makes the offseason uncertain, and who is emptying the farm for him in the middle of a potentially abbreviated season? What do you get in return that's worth the reputational cost both to a market they want to appeal to and a fanbase who will want to watch him and Roch in September? I guess they'll have no choice if he makes it clear he won't stay, but nothing I've learned about him makes that seem particularly likely. Or if everything collapses around him to the extent that there's 6 other holes to fill, but in that case they're indeed doomed anyway.

Don't really expect him to stick with TOR once they get healthy either way, but I hope he latches on somewhere where there's steady ABs for him. Just doesn't seem like someone who can keep a rhythm well as a sporadic bench player.

Because Jerry won’t pay him. Are you new here?

That timeline certainly fits with team sale window (2029-34), which on its own seems kind of odd. If I had to guess on ballpark location, I'd say they're planning to put it just south of the Fire stadium on the 78 with the Amtrak land being used for a stadium district and parking as @soxfan18 illustrated earlier. This would allow them to get going on ballpark construction sooner since, as you pointed out and as mentioned in the latest presentation slides, it would take years to move Amtrak's facility and clear the tracks from their current yard such that we're looking at 2030 at the earliest to being construction on the west side of the river. And yeah, the Fire surely would be more than happy to have the Sox join them in this development. They only play 17 home games a year and the new MLS schedule actually has the league on an off-season break from June to mid-July, which is about half of the summer. It's hard for me to wrap my mind around the amount of money involved here from the Ishbias in addition to what they'll be paying for the franchise itself. But then again, some other billionaire is about to plunk down $3.9B to buy the Padres whereas the Ishbia brothers are "only" paying about $2B for the Sox. So, it's not unrealistic to think that the Ishbias are planning to privately-finance a new stadium with state money being used for infrastructure work.

I feel like this thread has become a twisted version of Homer chasing the pig. If you know, you know

Our friend Joe Doyle has his Mock 2.0 out. Will share the top 5. https://overslotbaseball.com/mock-drafts/mlb-draft-mock-draft-2/

If the NE intersection of 18th and Canal could be acquired and a few train tracks re-routed, that would be a far superior location to the "78." That intersection is adjacent to the Schoenhofen Brewery Historic District which is on the National Register of Historic Places and one of the highest rated walking areas in the city (there is your "ballpark village"). Also, that would avoid any necessity to walk over a bridge to the "78" or the necessity to deal with Related or Auchi, who I believe is still the owner of that parcel. The shape of that parcel would work perfectly with a new park. The historic site would work well with a retro stadium with the arches and red brickwork reminding Sox fans of the iconic facade of Comiskey Park.

Yeah, I'm puzzled as to who on this site is miffed about this sale.

Love that outcome. Would hate to root for anything out of Notre Dame though. 🙃

Pretty sure nobody in soxtalk is miffed

Top 100 MiLB lists. Can’t seem to find the exact publication to link for everyone but I know it wasn’t Baseball America or the official MLB list. Pretty sure it was something like “horseshit hi8is pulled out of his arse.” I could be wrong… but I’m almost positive that was it.

Just so were on the same page here, Meidroth was more valuable than Sosa last season per fWAR and bWAR, and remains more valuable so far this year through the same metrics. Sosa can't even get on the field for this team, and was just traded away for essentially nothing in a move that is obviously "we were going to DFA this guy but might as well get SOMETHING" That should tell you enough about Lenyn Sosa's value.

Never knew Sosa was so beloved.

TBH, I am open-minded to the view that it is near-impossible to teach the skill that Lenyn lacks at the plate. If the goal when acquiring young players is to prefer players who already have the difficult-to-teach skill, that's cool with me. But once you're looking at MLB production, I don't see much reason to put much emphasis on exactly how a given player managed to reach X level of production if X level of production is good enough. I doubt this played a role in the decision to trade him, but I am aware of some data indicating some pretty brutal aging curves for contact/contact-quality on pitches outside the strike zone. That is, players do not get better at making contact at pitches outside the zone and their ability tends to fall off a cliff in the late 20s in a way that is sooner and faster than other hitting skills. So I guess one way to counterargue what I said above is that Lenyn, who really relies on production against chased pitches, has the type of game that is known to age really poorly. But I don't know how much I believe it and I doubt this was a deeply considered decision.