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i don’t hate the idea, depending on the cost. Also let’s all hit up some Orioles message boards and absolutely lowball the s%*# out of them.

I don’t like idea of spending big on a catcher with control. Teel will be back next year and you’re going to want that DH spot for Murakami or Vargas if Roch comes up.

White Sox: Hey let's try having some fun. Tray:

I’m sure they will go visit the ND campus tomorrow and then go to a Chiefs practice

WOOOOO!!! I JUST WOKE MY KID UP AND I DONT CARE IF MY WIFE IS MAD THE SOX WON BABY! WOOOOO BABY!!

Will is really gonna earn his paycheck when he has to look Edgar in the eye and tell him he has to go back to Charlotte despite walking it off tonight

She would love a lot of us then

Burke tomorrow, I know we face a lefty but if we can take that game it would be huge for momentum of this team and still be in first

Apologies…I forgot they’re going to go buy a LeBron 76ers jersey

So clutch. A confident Hicks has the ability to completely change the future of this team. The ability to shorten a game to 7 innings is YUGE.

If Grichuk would have hit one to the warning track the third base coach would have held Chase anyway.

NEVER pinch hit for the best hitter on the team. What is so difficult to understand about that? I am so sick of Venable.

No matter the results, I will always hate this Manfred Man bullshit.

Detmers career summary: 2021: Tough, short rookie season 2022: Nice 25 start performance, peripherals a little mediocre but nothing to complain about. 129 innings 2023: Decent 28 start performance, peripherals somewhat consistent but the actual run scoring went the wrong direction 2024: Horrible, some signs of bad batted ball luck (FIP et al not as bad as 6+ ERA) but he made half a season of starts in AAA and got bombed there too 2025: Solid season out of the bullpen, although the numbers aren't great for a reliever. Fielding independent statistics continue to like his performance better than ERA does 2026: Nice season, quickly approaching all-time high in innings and again fielding independent statistics think he deserves better than his 4 ERA. Had a really bad stretch of starts recently but his most recent 3 were good. To me, I just have a hard time endorsing paying a real high price for this guy. The stuff is good, no doubt. But there's not that much of a track record of strong performance, his last reasonably good season as a starter before this one was in 2023 and even that was a year he posted a 4.48 ERA (4.13 FIP, 4.57 xERA, 4.14 SIERA for the sabermetricians at home). He's still young and there's not many injury issues in the past that I know of. His recent performance is more or less his best performance, although that's almost always true of players who get lots of attention as a top trade candidate — you are frequently buying high. This season, the metrics say he deserves better than the 4.03 ERA, although I also take note that he has rather consistently underperformed the metrics. Statcast says the defense behind Detmers has been 6 runs worse than average this season, so maybe that explains it all. But there's a lot of explaining you have to do about why this guy is not just worth having on your team, but worth paying a high price for. You get 2 more years after this with team control. Have to weigh what you expect happens with regard to a lockout here since that's half of your future control. Obviously, he'd a big upgrade for the White Sox. But if you think Bonemer is a top 25 prospect, then no way you trade him for this guy. IMO, of course

I mean it seems obvious to me. If he was a Dbag, he wouldn't be around.

Go get Holmes & Ray. That won't cost you a Bonemer, Smith or Carlson. Rotation: Burke/Martin/Ray/Holmes/Kay Fedde to the bullpen

Start by trading Reinsdorf for an average street vendor

Sox need to "Pull a Cleveland" as the kids these days call it. Win the final 2 games and salvage a series split.

lol every time I see tray start some s%*# this is my reaction

Can we stop pretending it is the good old days when it comes to pitching? We know for a fact that pitcher throw harder than ever because hitters are more advanced than ever. We only have data back to 2002, and the average fastball then was 89.2 mph. So far in 2026 it is 94.7. Keep going backwards in time, and that number keeps dropping. It was notable in the old days when I guy threw 90, let alone 95. Today it is notable when they don't. It was MUCH easier to go deeper into games then, because you weren't going at max effort on each pitch. Somehow in the discussion about how no one works deep into games, we seem to leave out the fact that instead of marathon runners on the mound, pitchers have turned into 100 meter sprinters, with a few 200 and 400 meter guys mixed in who can hold their stuff out to 100 pitches 30 times per year. It was easy to go 300 innings when you were topping out at 80 mph and were mixing in junk like a knuckleball because each pitch was at 75 to 80%. NO ONE does that today, which is why almost no one gets to 200, let alone 300 innings. Again, think of it this way. World class 100 meter dash speeds the last couple of Olympics are in the 9.8 range. Projected out over 400 meters, that would be about a 39 second pace. The record is just over 43 seconds, meaning no one in the world has ever held a top 100 meter pace for 400 meters. If you ran 4 sets of 43 second 400's to get to a mile, your pace would be 2 minutes and 52 seconds, the world record just set was 3 minutes and 42 seconds. Drag that out to a marathon, and you would finish the world record in 1 hour and 37 minutes. The World record is just under 2 hours. Bonus, if you ran a 9.8 second 100 meter pace for a marathon, you would finish in just over an hour and eight minutes. TLDR, you can throw a lot of pitches at a much lower rate, or you can throw the hardest pitches and throw many less of them. But you cannot physically do both. Stop wondering why.

lmao that crying kid

A quick reminder about our ass hat 3rd base coach making that bonehead call earlier in the game.

It's like the Lakers fan after Giddey's buzzer beater

Show the crying Yankee child again for that one

I don't think Sam failing to come through in that spot would have been more annoying than Grichuk failing

Sox should have already won this one though, Vargas should have scored and the 3rd base coach held him up. Those mistakes, plus Venable stupidly pinch hitting Ant is the difference between a good team and a real contender

I still can’t believe he sat Sammy.

But Will keeps letting him hit in Sam's spot...

What a moronic decision to pinch hit for Ant, he's our best contact hitter, well him and Meidroth but whoo boy that was retarded

Bringing in Grichuk who has been awful lately. Sam is a tough out and feel like had a better chance putting the ball in the OF.

Blackburn had been nails for them lately

Going to leave for 20 mins to buy groceries and beer. Last time I did this the Sox came back. Thank me later

Davis did a hell of a job tonight. First inning was a stinker but frankly could have gone a lot differently if Rice's soft chopper was hit a few inches further fair. And he saved our pen after that.

Well, his good play is why I say you can't replace him. But if I had to put money down I'd probably be betting against him as the Sox everyday CF a calendar year from now. I hope I'm wrong though!

Detmers was BA’s #8 prospect in the 2020 draft. Didn’t officially pitch that year due to COVID. Went straight to AA in 2021 and dominated before being promoted to AAA and the majors for a brief cup of coffee. Ended up being BA’s #28 overall ranked prospect in 2022. So much better pedigree as a prospect. He strikes out a lot more guys than Quintana and has better velocity & stuff. He lacks the control that peak Quintana had though, although it’s improved a ton this year. Quintana also ate a ton more innings, but Reid is getting better there. They are both lefties but I wouldn’t consider them all that similar. Regarding the price, Quintana was traded right before prospect valuations changed significantly. And candidly, Hahn got very lucky a separate Epstein was willing to give up those pieces. He waited out for an offer for his price to be met after successful Sale & Eaton trades and I’m not sure any other team would have been willing to trade that level of prospect capital. Detmers will certainly cost less just given the current baseball operating environment.

The extra year of control for Quintana is worth a lot of value. I think Quintana wasn't even in arbitration yet when he got traded, so he was making peanuts. While Determs will be cost controlled, he's heading into his Arb2 and Arb3 years, meaning he's gonna make something close to $20 million for the next few seasons. It's not expensive, but it's also not $5 million. Also, I think Quintana was actually a more proven pitcher than Detmers at the time they traded him. He was a 4-5 WAR pitcher for the 3 years prior to the trade. Detmers doesn't have that kind of track record.

A fun distraction like one of the most positive dudes to ever don a Sox uniform waving a magic wand around and having the temperament of a golden retriever is a good thing, you want guys loose and not wringing their hands over losing 2 games in a row to one of if not the best team in the league.

Have to say, typing out “schlittler” makes you question “is this word spelled right?” For a while

We have a new Foodies invasion. Instead of food it’s just stock photo normie guys

If this was the price for Detmers, I think he'd be here already.

The Fegan piece is great. Schultz has to be close to the innings limit, regardless. They've made lots of changes with him that seem unnecessary. There have been many pitching development issues this year. I don't know who is to blame necessary but none of Schultz, Smith, Taylor, McDougal or Oppor is currently starting every 5th day in the majors on a big league workload and I personally think that's an issue. Schultz likely goes to bullpen role after the deadline I'd think. You seem pretty confrontational for no reason though.

Now we are talking overpay.

I wouldn't even blink at this. At this point I have extreme doubts that Smith is a starter.

If they are actually relying on Jose Urquidy to provide meaningful innings, then they are toast.

This is all fair, but i disagree on the talent part. I've never really liked any of the Sox guys but Schultz. The Sox have given Bannister a bunch of guys who can't consistently find the zone and told him to help them find the zone. That's a really tall task and a recipe for disaster.

Get him now so he can start this weekend. We are bleeding games with bad pitching.

Some of yall ain't built for this. Strap in and enjoy the ride.