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I don’t think anyone is mad at him. Rather he shouldn’t have been put in that position.

This loss was on Will. Starting Murphy instead of Davis and gifting 3 runs to the Guardians in the 1st inning.

Imagine using Braden Montgomery to ph for anyone. God our manager fucking sucks

Really hope some other team steals Venable. He has killed this team down the stretch.

Just stick Grichuk in RF full time the rest of the season

Not sure what people expect. Everyone has been bitching about Colson bringing us down and how bad Braden is vs left handed pitchers, who else do we have to put in the lineup? I understand Teel a bit but He is also coming off a few injuries and probably shouldn't be playing every day at this point and I am sure he will come in later in the game for an AB or two

Same people would be up in arms if Martin was only able to go 4 and Murphy had to go in to a medium leverage spot in a close game in the 5th. Will doesn't exactly have the 90s Braves staff to work with, He's trying to make chicken salad out of mostly chicken s%*#.

The Colson and Mune stuff is tough to watch on both a fan and a human level. My guess is they’re mentally drained, making them way more susceptible to feel the pressure and therefore less able to make the necessary adjustments. I don’t think they’re just stupid and/or broken forever, as some posters have declared. Baseball is fucking hard man.

I don't think it's necessarily Venable choosing the openers. The analytics team along with the pitching coach probably decides. I'm sure Will has input, but he probably isn't the only decision maker.

Muni already down 0-2 in the count for tomorrow's game.

I cannot emphasize enough how much the outfielders should be playing in for that AB. There is nothing wrong with the positioning. If your goal is to maximize the chance that you make the out, you bring in the outfielders. The only reason they normally play as far back as they do is because you're worried about doubles. In that specific game situation, you have the additional reason that if they somehow still hit it in front of you, if you are playing close you might prevent them from sending the winning run home from second. Add on top of that the fact that Rocchio is a slap hitter who makes a living slapping balls in front of outfielders. Sam appears to have badly misplayed the ball but even if he hadn't, it's just a ball that found a hole.

Just a dreadful month for Venable. Nothing he’s doing makes sense

Huge game, he decides to start Murphy, who struggled last time he opened vs Cleveland, and spots them 3 runs. The Sox almost won in spite of their manager, he is trash as an in game manager.

Venable is atrocious! It’s a miracle they haven’t lost 100 games again this year.

Nauseating. Absolutely nauseating. We deserve so much better than this. Seriously, what the f*** is Will thinking in these situations? Opening with Murphy, probably your worst pitcher in a critical division series with the lead down to a sliver? Subbing out Doyle for fucking Braden, only for it to cost them on the final play. Seriously f*** all this. This team owes us a win after today. Big time.

Easily the most deflating loss of the year. And it was such a winnable game. I have a hard time seeing us win tomorrow. That might have decided the division.

Tristan Peters or Brenton Doyle catch that. But because our genius manager pinch-hit Braden Montgomery for Doyle with a lead, Doyle is not in the game. Just a terribly mismanaged game by Venable.

When the Driveline guy was running the show in Cincinnati, they banned their RHP from pickoff moves in the minors. They ran the numbers and found that you're far more likely to have an error on the pickoff than actually getting the guy out. They focused on timing and better deliveries and were the best minor league org at holding on baserunners with RHP on the mound.

No please tell me all about it

Thanks for the cubs game lol

Today would go a very long way towards a playoff spot. Just find a way to win the fucking game. Tribe have a bad offense. Make them put it in play as we did last night and don't walk very many and we'll be good.

Not a Chris Murphy fan

This season Martin had 26 starts. He had the 4 starts in a row right before he was put on DL where he let up runs in the first inning. The 20 starts before he let up 1st inning runs 2x and they were 1 run each time. The last 2 starts no runs and had 10.2 innings of 1 run ball. So where in all that data do you look and think it's a good idea to start arguably your worst pitcher in the biggest game of the year? Venable gets worse and worse with each series

He does it too much. Davis Martin does not need an opener.

If C Montgomery or Muni were even close to their first half numbers, we would already have the division won. This collapse is 100% on them being automatic outs.

Same stupid idiot who wouldn’t pinch run for a catcher in a tie game, but takes out our best defensive outfielder for a non-upgrade bat when leading late.

or maybe we shouldn't rely on our closer throwing 2 innings to close especially a young guy. Or maybe we should stop with the fucking openers and wasting our 2nd best bullpen arm in the 1st inning of games and then he isn't available the next game

Ricky, Ozzie, Flusher, TLR, and even the guy here who sent in his resume to JR would manage this team better. So fucking done with Will. If it's from above then f*** you Getz but i doubt it

Pulling Doyle late in the game is fucking stupidity, too. His entire purpose here is defense. Instead, you have Sam in LF and he just sucks. Just inexcusable. This game was ultimately lost with the predictably idiotic decision to go with Murphy to open. They can fire Venable at any time.

Tough way to lose. And yes, that play cost them the game. But you know what else costs them the fucking game. Over and Over again Murakami and Colson striking out. Murakami- 0-4 4ks Mongomery- 02- 1k They are unplayable.

We can’t have Mune or Colson at cleanup anymore, they are killing us, bat them 7th, 8th or 9th

I don’t want to see Murakami in the lineup again this year.

If he's normal he catches that. And why does Will start Doyle who's better defensively and puts in sam . Will managed this game very poorly

I thought off the bat that was a sure out. Wtf was Sam doing? Oh wait...not a natural OFer in a late inning, playoff stretch game. Poor management.

.060 xBA. Also I'm sure Peters catches that. But we took out Doyle to pinch hit with Braden.

You can't walk Patrick Bailey, period. That is just inexcusable.

Let's just worry about winning today.

He struck out with two outs and a guy on second. That's just not the same as guys on 2nd and 3rd with no outs and nothing coming from it.

I can't believe they saw the had given up 3 runs in 2 innings as an opener and thought it was a good idea in one of the biggest games of the year.

I take it you weren't referring to Cleveland?

"Hey, we got this pitcher who sucks. Let's put him in as the starter in the biggest game of the season.

IMO Will should simply bench all the bad hitters but also not play the other bad hitters. It’s not that hard!

Luckily so is Cleveland's. Find a way to win.

a series of strongly worded letters.

That's very surprising to me TBH. Urquidy is quite possibly the 4th or 5th best starter in the org right now. Sox were going to need a 40-man spot for Thorpe by tomorrow, but I would have expected someone like Junior Perez or Joey Bart to be likelier to get the axe. BTW, this offseason when the 60-day guys all have to be added back will be a bloodbath

I agree but so is starting Chris Murphy

How is this dangerously misguided when they have been doing this all season, with a lot of success? Come on now, this entire season has been like this don’t act like he needs to follow conventional wisdom now

Playing with fire with the opener today

I promise you that there are clauses in all of these guys contracts about how they act in public, and he could have been fired for cause. Yes he might have wanted to fight it, but pretty sure he doesn't want testimony about the years of dumb s%*# he said and did, and neither do the Sox. This is a divorce of convenience for both parties.

You can't sweep unless you win the first.