Everything posted by greg775
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Fire Pedro Grifol
Same with me. Lifelong fan just finally stopped watching. After the all-star break I was done. I not only despise this team I despise modern baseball: Whiff or home run. I despise our Sox getting behind in the count and waving at the ball in the dirt for strike three. Or the pathetic half swing where they are fooled and either get the call or whiff. ... Of course the shift which remains and players refusal to poke hits thru the shift. Annoying. No bunt singles. Manfred should just change the rules and play home run derby if HRs are so special. Or play 5 innings real ball and end it with 4 innings of derby. And pitchers who have redefined the term starter. Can't go more than 5 1/3. Pathetic. With pitchers W/L records meaningless and complete games a thing of the past, they've taken away all interest in that position. Somehow pitchers arms have completely changed and they can't go deep in games cept for a rare rare occasion. How bad were the tv ratings anyway fathom, educate us pls.
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Fire Pedro Grifol
That is all true. I just wish we'd get somebody who can run a team like Rob Thomson. This is a new era of media with no real critics like Mariotti back in the day. So we don't hear the stories of perhaps how bad Grifol is. Did the Sox have one highlight all season? Maybe a five game win streak or something.
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Fire Pedro Grifol
Keeping him is wrong. Sox gave him a whole season. The team was one of the worst in club history. Get rid of him. My gosh, Sox. You can afford to pay him exit money. This guy needs to go.
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Sox/Padres October 1……loss 101?
Ozzie ripping the Sox on pre game for playing this insulting lineup on fan appreciation day. No TA and Eloy, laughable.
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9/30- Sox vs Padres, 100 Losses!
The Sox should be pleased with attendance this season. Our fans shock me. They haven't resembled A's fans yet. They still come out. Did we really have 30,000 last night? That's incredible. The fact the Sox haven't publicly gushed about their loyal fans and done something for them the last week of the season (they could have had free parking or free food) astounds me. To those of u who went to two or more games (up to 40 or so) I appreciate your loyalty. Good job. I'm kind of sad I haven't watched a game since about Aug. 8. I have watched some highlights on my mlb game summary package. My mlb is run out after today's game and I doubt I'll renew. No interest in watching anything but highlights.
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9/30- Sox vs Padres, 100 Losses!
I agree he's not trying to deliberately ruin the franchise. This season's ineptitude came out of nowhere. However going .500 under Tony ... he should have hired somebody like Maddon, not somebody from the Royals who the Royals bypassed for the job. I mean that was a HUGE warning sign there. Sox need to go back to an elder manager even tho Tony didn't work out. Why can't they do some things that are positive? That Burger trade was ridiculous. Nobody can defend that one effectively. I think they will acquire Salvy after the World Series and that will be the start of their rejuvenation (in their minds). I'm assuming Beni is another player who cares so they'll have Salvy and Beni changing the attitude. They'll get rid of TA in their one blockbuster and believe it or not keep Elvis around in case they can't find somebody decent to replace TA. Elvis wound up hitting .250 and he'll be the emergency candidate at SS if TA is shipped. Elvis also has a good attitude allegedly. So Salvy, Beni and Elvis will try to awaken Robert's full potential and help out Vaughn and Sheets and that new catcher we got who can't hit, as well who can sub for Salvy at times. In conclusion as much as I'd love Jerry to sell the team for some reason he wants to be the scorn of Chicago and keep the club. The goodwill of 2005 is gone unfortunately because of this terrible season to go with last season's Tony debacle.
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9/30- Sox vs Padres, 100 Losses!
Congrats Reinsdorf. You owe something to the fans. This season was an utter disgrace. The Chicago White Sox were unwatchable, thus 100 losses. Somehow you have two big leaguers among your everyday players (Robert, Anderson) and you have one MLB pitcher among your everyday pitchers (Clevinger). Cease was a joke this season,. And you have nobody who would be considered an exceptional fielder. Maybe one in Robert. You owe an apology to any fan who paid for tickets for five or more games. You should get them free parking passes at the minimum for next season. The White Sox cannot play modern baseball, that is for sure. They won't draw walks at the plate. Their lift angle while trying to hit HRs every at bat is not acceptable. They do a nice job of waving at strike three in the dirt though. And their defense is abysmal. Everyone involved with the organization deserves a grade of F. 100 losses. Wow.
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Burger To Marlins
I hate to defend Burger so much since I was so against drafting a then-pudgy bad fielding third baseman out of Mo. State. But he is amazing. And trading him was so wrong. You dump Moncada and keep Burger. Geez that was a bad trade. He actually was one guy we could have penciled in at 3B for the next 10 years. Instead, he gawn. Ridiculous.
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Illinois High School Football Thread
Not too hot. I watched the Rice-Mt. Carmel game tonight. Rice got slugged 42-7. I will NEVER criticize high school kids as they are kids not getting paid and are trying. That being said coach Q is using two QBs and letting them each play a series, rotating. That's never worked on any level. Rice was down 28-0 and the public address announcer told the fans to quit making negative comments. I forget the word he used. Damn I wish I could remember it. It wasn't 'negative' it was something like 'derogatory.' He actually told the fans to behave better. He said 'this is high school football.' I'm assuming the fans were booing coach Q. Vanilla offense. Not our night in any way. I fear this is the year no playoffs. Team is 3-3 heading into Nazareth. After that Rita and somebody else. Got to go 2-1 to get in. Mt. Carmel QB is amazing. Mt. Carmel had big linemen. Unfortunately if Rice played 'em 10 times we'd lose all 10. Harry ... will coach Q stick around for the long haul? Rice is 3-3 and trending downward. Didn't see a lot of talent out there tonight. That said as always i appreciate the effort of the kids. The ain't getting paid and are trying. It just seems futile.
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The Anti-Rebuild Sentiment
Another good post. The only good thing about being a Sox fan right now is many of u on the board are smart peeps regarding the Sox.
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The Anti-Rebuild Sentiment
I guess I wrote it wrong. I want all new coaches and a new manager to coach 'em up. I don't want Getz but it's too late. I was being sarcastic about them possibly being successful in the draft while yes demanding the picks they get work out. ... No I don't want a rebuild. I consider the guys we are trading to be worth very little. I want to get rid of Moncada and TA and Eloy. ... It may look like a tank/rebuild but we don't have the current assets to deal in a tank/rebuild. I am advocating just normal trades of average players in TA, Moncada and Eloy.
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The Anti-Rebuild Sentiment
This post is useless. Why? Sox have no assets to trade that would support a tank/rebuild. Moncada, TA and Eloy and Cease are not going to bring enough in. I am in favor of getting rid of TA and Moncada, sure. But a tank/rebuild will not work this time. You aren't going to get much for either TA or Moncada, folks. Eloy 'might' bring something useful in the rebuild mode. Moncada is a player nobody with a brain wants. Cease walks too many batters to bring back a ton of useful rebuild assets. The Sox blew it by hiring Getz and hiring Pedro. The only way out of this is to have competent baseball people made a couple trades, coach up the few good players we have in the minors, draft well (lol Sox don't draft well) and try to get back to .500 which will let u compete in the laughable Central Division. A tank/rebuild? I'd rather the Sox move or be contracted from the league.
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9/26-28, Sox vs Diamondbacks series
Me too. I actually want us to lose 100. It's been that bad a season. Wear it Sox. Sox were so bad they are making this an unbearable winter cause we have nothing to look forward to sports wise in the spring. Sox are going to be even worse than this season after they trade the underachievers TA and Moncada and Eloy. Vaughn and Salvy will be our lineup leaders. Yikes.
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9/26-28, Sox vs Diamondbacks series
Can't believe we won with 3 hits. 23,000 fans?? Cmon how is that possible. Little April Fools joke a few months past April?
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ESPN ranked White Sox season #30 last in MLB with an F ranking.
60-98? Wow. Who would have thought the team will lose 100 games and only win 60 or 61. Couple of comments. ... -- Despite the lack of talent on the team, Pedro must be let go after the final game of the season. Give him a trophy for having to coach this oft-injured, bad fundamental bunch. But he needs to go far away. It's INEXCUSABLE to let him stay after an 100 loss season. Cmon. This is Bevington-ish. -- Sox must SOMEHOW win trades for Anderson, Moncada and Eloy and Cease. The future of the team depends on it. Next year figures to be a 50-win season. The year after, if the Sox get good players in those trades and actually sign some GOOD free agents, the team could be .500 by 2016 and maybe a winner after that. I see no way this club is anything but awful in 2014, 2015. It might show a little progress in 2016, like maybe finish 8-10 under .500. 2017 better be a winner. Bring in Joe Maddon for gawd sakes. Somebody like Dusty Baker. Anybody but Pedro. Why would you want Pedro to coach the abysmal teams of 2014 and 2015? Bring in somebody the baseball world respects. Get Francona to un-retire. Wish we could get Rob Thomson.
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ESPN ranked White Sox season #30 last in MLB with an F ranking.
Thank goodness they got an F and are being called out. The White Sox are doing a great job in only one regard: Turning longtime multi decade "lifelong fans" into people who no longer care about their passion, White Sox baseball. They've turned many many fans into front runners. It used to be we loved our Sox thru thick and thin. Now ... wake us up when you actually have gotten your bleep together and have a contender. Worst season in Sox history with little hope for the rest of the decade. Thanks Sox (sarcastic) ... you made me not care. They make no effort to keep one likeable player in Abreu and then for some reason trade the semi-loveable Burger whose name truly fit that pudgy loveable face.
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9/26-28, Sox vs Diamondbacks series
Sox had an 80% chance of winning after inning one. How stupid are those odds during games. The Sox lost 15-4 for geez sake. Eloy elevated. I guess that's good. Man, the Sox stink. Worst team in many of our lifetimes bar none. Utterly awful ballclub.
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Bard selects new Sox location
I wonder if Sox brass has talked to the Bears yet. The Bears probably want their own property/stadium, but it'd be intriguing to have them both out there in Arlington. That'd be a good scoop for Nightengale if he could find out if Bears and Sox have spoken at least.
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Bard selects new Sox location
If they move to Arlington (why not Naperville instead?) they'll definitely have a suburban flavor to them. I'd think the diehard loyal south siders won't go out to Arlington much if ever to see the Sox. I would think the Cubs would love the Sox moving out there. They'd have everybody in Chicago proper coming to Wrigley IMO. I would guess true South Siders would be very upset and would not go out to Arlington. But again, suburbia is enough to average 30,000 a game me thinks.
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Bard selects new Sox location
I haven't lived in Chicago in a ton of years but isn't the U-Center neighborhood kind of dangerous? I thought that part of town was kind of old and crime ridden. Am I wrong here? Is the U-Center area safe and thriving? And as far as being convenient for city folks ... to get to the U-Center is a pretty long annoying drive from the far south side and suburbia isn't it? I think the Sox frankly should move to the suburbs. They'd do well there once people got used to it. No offense to Chicago natives but if they wanna go to a Sox game they can drive out to Arlington Park. There are enough folks in the suburbs to support the team IMO especially if they build a palace of a ballpark.
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Josh Barfield expected to be asst. GM; Brian Bannister and Gene Watson coming as well
Finally some good news. First good news re. the White Sox in a long while.
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9/23 - It's a Bummer White Sox victory
Good to see Cease not walk anybody. Some of these Sox do have talent (I think). Good to see him pitch well.
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Jake Burger Appreciation Thread
Spencer hit 18 hrs and drove in 69 runs in 470 at bats for the south side hit men in 77. He hit some mammoth shots that year like almost all the Sox. Spencer hit more than a couple off the facade in RF. Soderholm hit 25 of his 102 career hrs in 77. He also consistently crushed the ball that year.
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Jake Burger Appreciation Thread
I was so against drafting him but learned to like him. Typical White Sox to trade their only player close to being loveable so to speak. Robert is sensational but not loveable yet cause of all the injuries he incurs. Somebody said Burger has cut down his strikeouts with Marlins. I wish strikeouts now were what they were back in the day. If you struck out in a game you felt like an utter failure. If you got two strikes on you at the plate you choked up or at least concentrated on putting the damn ball in play. Not now, KKKK.
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Salvy Perez Trade Rumors
This post says it all. The Sox prolly are convinced they need Salvy to save the clubhouse.