TheFutureIsNear

Pretty baffling how a guy loses all of his power at age 28. I know he had a broken hamate bone last year, but his power struggles started before that. Nor is that usually a career altering injury. Am I missing something else that could explain it? Going from averaging 16.5 HR’s/year in your 1st 4 full seasons to not being able to crack 10 over a 2 year span doesn’t make any sense. Especially since he’s still making fairly regular contact. It would be less weird if he suddenly couldn’t make contact at all.

Pretty mind blowing to read

What about this story makes you think TA is a cancer?

When ownership doesn’t care about wins and losses there’s always going to be a trickle down effect. No accountability exists within the entire organization.

If an adulterer is your line of morality you should really stop watching sports all together then. There aren’t many guys your delicate self could possibly root for

I hate this organization as much as anyone right now…but I don’t see anyone is to blame for this. Liam’s elbow has been a ticking time bomb for a while.

The amount of people just casually glossing over a .279 OBP is a little crazy honestly. It’s been said 50 times already, yes Jake is an awesome guy all around and easy to root for, but it doesn’t change the fact that he just isn’t good at making contact with a baseball. If I’m not mistaken he’d be on pace to easily break the strike out record in a season if he was a full time player all year. Wish Burger the best and would happily eat crow if he improves over the next couple of years…but I do think this was the smart time to trade him.

Oh of course, they should def take as many shots on high upside 1 year deals as possible. I just read the OP as something like “who can we sign to fix this and compete right away?” And my answer is definitely still no one.

At this point going out and signing vet free agents would be like getting rims put on a broken down Ford Taurus. This team isn’t getting turned around in 1 year, probably not even 2. I don’t think this is the off season to spend even if it were a possibility. Free agency should be used to push a good roster over the to maybe compete for a championship, this organization needs probably about a dozen good players before we even talk playoffs. Wait it out, suck another year, let all the $ come off the books, and then maybe start to build the roster back with free agents for a playoff push after we have a few more young guys come up and hopefully supplement the roster.

Not that it’s the end all be all…but MLB pipeline re-slotted our system after the trades already. Lee at 13. https://www.mlb.com/prospects/whitesox/ Not sure what to think of him, just a quick google and you’ll see 2 scouting reports that say he will have to move off of catcher and 2 that say his defense is fine. If he can stick at catcher and keep his OBP respectable he should at least a major leaguer. A cheap backup catcher with HR pop certainly isn’t the worst thing. Obviously hope for more tho

Seems like a big time gamble/boom or bust guy…but for a rental reliever, that’s fine. From what I’m reading Lee seems like an Evan Gattis type of comp? Or is his defense better than mlb pipeline reads?

We’ve been in “root for losses” territory for a few weeks now. Job well done boys, way to keep the hopes of a top 5 pick alive

At this point you’re selling TA at his all time lowest value. Hard to see any team giving up anything significant while he’s having a horrific season. I’d rather roll the dice next year and see if he improves rather than trade him just for the sake of trading him

Seems like an attempt at a below slot pick that could potentially fill a 2B need soonish? At least that’s what I assume this broken franchise is thinking

Hahn should be on the phones trying to trade Lynn as I type this…don’t risk another string of bad starts

It’s Vaughn and literally every other player in the organization, besides maybe Cease and Gio. Every other player in this organization has either not met expectations or has gotten worse upon arrival. I agree Vaughn’s ceiling is limited, but wouldn’t shock me to see him be an above average starter once he leaves. It’s more than time to admit that this organization is rotten to its core and it’s not the individual players. I wish I knew the exact reason behind it, but clearly there’s a major problem that prevents players from succeeding here.

This organization clearly has a systemic problem. The under performing doesn’t even stop at the MLB level, our minor league system can’t develop a decent prospect either. I can’t begin to guess what the problem could be, but it’s clearly beyond firing 1 or 2 people. The entire organization needs a cleansing top to bottom.

Sucks for Liam and everything he’s been through…but damn was it a gigantic mistake to not capitalize on his trade value last year.

The athletic laid 20 people off at the same time, highly doubt it had anything to do with that very non offensive tweet. Most likely has to do with being the beat writer for a perennial bad team that is losing whatever fan base it has by the day.

Don’t get me wrong, it needs to happen…but whatever we have to sell isn’t going to turn this franchise around. Cease is about the only guy I can see netting us any kind of significant prospect. Sadly the only turn around for the Sox is probably tank mode for 3-4 years at least. It’s not like they can clear the cap and then sign big free agents, we all know that isn’t happening until Jerry is gone. Plus, just the idea of Hahn starting another rebuild is crazy. Trade whoever you can that isn’t under contract next year and then let a new front office (KW must go too) make the decisions on the rest in the off-season.

That’s probably going to be the painful part of this season. No team in the Central is good enough to pull away so come trade deadline we could be looking at another scenario where the front office is between buying and selling and does nothing instead because the team is “in contention”.

Sure…but the point I’m making is that it changes nothing. We aren’t going to sign big free agents regardless, nor is the team in a position to sign veterans at this point. With the lack of viable talent in the organization worrying about the payroll is like worrying about a scratch on a car that has a blown engine. The payroll will be reduced naturally just because the team needs to be blown up and rebuilt, AGAIN.

Does the payroll aspect of it even matter? This team isn’t signing major difference making free agents while Jerry is still alive so I’m not worried about saving payroll. Obviously this team is going nowhere and needs young assets though, so that should be the sole focus.

Not going to help anything, let the kid develop and get stronger in the minors for at least another couple of months.

I think I’d be more concerned if he was happy here. This organization is a dumpster fire. Not saying Tim is completely resolved of any blame, but I don’t see how any player could/should be happy playing for the Sox.