Tony

He has one of the best eyes in baseball, is your highest paid hitter, and the pitcher on the mound can't find the zone. But @greg775 told me TLR is a great manager, it can't be debated!

Great swing by Eloy

Just a proud night for the Reinsdorf’s

Yes he is, Eloy and Cease for Q was a horrific trade.

Jas, I'm curious, how many innings did you watch of Sox-Cle this week?

Was hoping for more of a thread title like “White Sox have a new manager”

When the TLR rumors came out last year from Bob, we all thought it was a joke but classic White Sox doing something weird. When it actually happened, it was this huge black cloud over a team we all should have been some amped for. Nothing has changed.

I mean, even someone like you know that isn't true. The guy took over a ready-made playoff roster. Ultimately, he will be judge on what this team accomplishes in the playoffs in 2021, 2022 and however long he continues to manage the White Sox. It doesn't mean he shouldn't be criticized for the poor decisions he makes during the season. Additionally, even if you feel like TLR should be judged by the Sox W/L record....then La Russa actively costing this team wins by batting Leury Garcia 3rd, punting games with Spring Training Lineups, etc should absolutely be part of the discussion. If you're going to troll, at least put more effort in. You're just being lazy at this point.

Hey! You and I are on the same page!

I think things could easily snowball.

But that's kind of the issue. It's the core guys playing like shit. Adding Conforto into the mix with Anderson-Abreu-Eloy-Moncada all AWOL isn't going to impact this team all that much.

I actually do think that's where media/hype plays into things. There was a weird feeling going into this year. Fans weren't excited like they should have been. Some of it had to do with the lockout, but a lot of it had to do with the feeling the Sox really didn't do anything to help the team. There wasn't all this buzz going into what should be billed as season with World Series hopes. It just didn't feel like that for whatever reason, and I think it shows.

The current 28 man roster (or whatever the hell it is now) has way deeper issues than not having Michael Conforto on this team.

What in this teams history, or even Rick Hahn's history...tells you that we should just give them a chance? What track record do they have to owe them that?

Why do you always ask people to Google stuff for you?

Why?

What a piece of shit start to the season for Tim.

Charlie Morton pitched like an ace for the Braves in 2021, and was signed from Tampa in the offseason.

Again, they are able to "not do much" because they have created a much better pipeline of internal talent, as Balta mentioned. You told us in another thread that the Astros "window" started in 2015. Fine, we can run with that. Internally, during their run, they've been able to add pieces like Yordan Alvarez, Kyle Tucker, Framber Valdez, etc. The Sox currently have the worst-ranked farm system by multiple publications. The cupboard is empty. Lastly, the Astros have actually won in the post-season. You get more rope when you actually produce. The Sox...have not.

Ok, I'd like to get off the ride now.

My overly emotional reaction is "Who fucking cares, they all deserve to go down with the ship." JR, RH, KW....everyone. I don't want any of them around the team I root for.

Sure. Of course I agree, everyone should. But there is no proof doing what TLR did yesterday with the lineups will have any impact on Game 1 of the ALDS. It doesn't have to be one or the other. It can be both. I can agree that the playoffs are the most important thing to get the team ready for, and those are the games that really matter. But TLR making bum decision after bum decision in the regular season doesn't earn him a pass just because there is enough talent on the team to overcome him asleep at the wheel. It's not unfair to expect both.