South Side Hit Men Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Balta1701 said: A lot on Grifol and culture, but Grifol walked into a s%*# show of Hahn's making. The roster issues will never be resolved until Hahn is gone, and a competent GM is brought in to take a few seasons to assess what they have and begin building an organization from A ball to the ML club. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kids Can Play Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 Found this interesting article about Kenny Williams and Rick Hahn from the Southside Showdown on August 12, 2017. White Sox: Ken Williams, Rick Hahn Given Contract Extensions By Matt Manetti | Aug 18, 2017 The Chicago White Sox recently extended the contracts of Ken Williams and Rick Hahn. Bob Nightengale reported this in a lengthy interview with Jerry Reinsdorf. Reinsdorf is very loyal to his guys and both Williams and Hahn are his guys. Terms of the new deals are unknown. However, Nightengale wrote they were long-term deals. Williams has been executive vice president since 2012. That’s the same year Hahn took over as general manager. It has been reported in the past the two clashed, but now it seems they are working well together. At least that’s what we’re told. Hahn has been the architect of the rebuild, which has netted the organization the best farm system in baseball. This is clearly a vote of confidence from Reinsdorf, but it’s not like their jobs were in danger. It’s not a surprise to hear their contracts were extended. But the team has a lot going for it right now. They have the best farm system in baseball and should be able to contend by 2019 or 2020. That’s really what this team had in mind when they decided to rebuild. And it appears the process will go fairly quick. Hahn deserves all the credit. The rebuild has his fingerprints all over it. Rebuilding was not really Williams’ style but it was the best way for the team to move forward. Hahn was able to get that point across and has his team in much better position for the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 11 minutes ago, The Kids Can Play said: Found this interesting article about Kenny Williams and Rick Hahn from the Southside Showdown on August 12, 2017. White Sox: Ken Williams, Rick Hahn Given Contract Extensions By Matt Manetti | Aug 18, 2017 The Chicago White Sox recently extended the contracts of Ken Williams and Rick Hahn. Bob Nightengale reported this in a lengthy interview with Jerry Reinsdorf. Reinsdorf is very loyal to his guys and both Williams and Hahn are his guys. Terms of the new deals are unknown. However, Nightengale wrote they were long-term deals. Williams has been executive vice president since 2012. That’s the same year Hahn took over as general manager. It has been reported in the past the two clashed, but now it seems they are working well together. At least that’s what we’re told. Hahn has been the architect of the rebuild, which has netted the organization the best farm system in baseball. This is clearly a vote of confidence from Reinsdorf, but it’s not like their jobs were in danger. It’s not a surprise to hear their contracts were extended. But the team has a lot going for it right now. They have the best farm system in baseball and should be able to contend by 2019 or 2020. That’s really what this team had in mind when they decided to rebuild. And it appears the process will go fairly quick. Hahn deserves all the credit. The rebuild has his fingerprints all over it. Rebuilding was not really Williams’ style but it was the best way for the team to move forward. Hahn was able to get that point across and has his team in much better position for the future. That certainly didn't age well did it? 😆 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kids Can Play Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 14 hours ago, Lip Man 1 said: That certainly didn't age well did it? 😆 14 hours ago, Lip Man 1 said: That certainly didn't age well did it? 😆 No it didn't, because his "GUYS" weren't very good pilots and crashed and burned the Sox plane in mid flight. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 The Sox have now gone four consecutive days without losing (July 10-13) and with a win tonight will hit a major annual milestone under Rick Hahn. So let's take a moment and celebrate if the Sox overcome significant odds and win tonight. Five plus calendar days without a White Sox loss under Rick Hahn 2013 (1 6-0) August 16-22 (6-0) 2014 (1 2-0) July 14-19 (2-0 including All Star Break) 2015 (3 17-0) May 12-18 (6-0) ; June 30 - July 4 (4-0); July 23-29 (7-0) 2016 (3 16-0) April 9-15 (5-0); April 22-27 (6-0); September 24-28 (5-0) 2017 (2 10-0) April 23-29 (6-0); August 7-11 (4-0) 2018 (1 1-0) July 15-19 (1-0 including All Star Break) 2019 (3 9-0) April 25-30 (3-0); May 27-31 (5-0); July 7-11 (1-0 including All Star Break) 2020 (5 26-0) July 29 - August 4 (6-0); August 16-22 (7-0); August 24-28 (3-0); September 3-7 (4-0); September 9-15 (6-0) 2021 (6 29-0) April 20-26 (4-0); May 6-13 (6-0); June 27 - July 2 (5-0); July 6-15 (5-0 including All Star Break); August 29 September 2 (3-0); September 26 - October 2 (6-0) 2022 (4 16-0) April 9-13 (4-0); May 2-8 (6-0); July 17-21 (1-0 including All Star Break); August 12-16 (5-0) 2023 (1 5-0) June 1-7 (4-0) Total Five + calendar days without a loss stretches under Rick Hahn (30 137-0 1.000) All other games 601-871 .408 Rick Hahn needs 61 more losses to surpass Kenny Williams' total loss total. Kenny Williams 1,014-931 .521 - 1 World Series Rick Hahn 738-871 .459 - What the little boy shot at 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 (edited) So if this is accurate, the White Sox have had 2 7 game winning streaks the last 10.5 seasons. FIRE RICK HAHN Edited July 14, 2023 by Dick Allen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kids Can Play Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 46 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: So if this is accurate, the White Sox have had 2 7 game winning streaks the last 10.5 seasons. FIRE RICK HAHN AGREED! Please sooner than later! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 47 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: So if this is accurate, the White Sox have had 2 7 game winning streaks the last 10.5 seasons. FIRE RICK HAHN I believe they had 2 8-game winning streaks in 2005 alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 59 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: So if this is accurate, the White Sox have had 2 7 game winning streaks the last 10.5 seasons. FIRE RICK HAHN Source for OG post and this one Baseball Reference. Longest Win Streaks by Season Hahn 2023: 5 Friday, June 2 to Thursday, June 8 2022: 6 Monday, May 2 to Sunday, May 8 2021: 6 Friday, May 7 to Thursday, May 13 and Sunday, September 26 to Saturday, October 2 2020: 7 Sunday, August 16 to Saturday, August 22 2019: 5 Monday, May 27 to Friday, May 31 2018: 4 Thursday, August 2 to Sunday, August 5 and Friday, August 24 to Monday, August 27 2017: 6 Sunday, April 23 to Saturday, April 29 2016: 6 Friday, April 22 to Wednesday, April 27 2015: 7 Thursday, July 23 to Wednesday, Juyl 29 2014: 4 Sunday, May 4 to Wednesday, May 7 and Wednesday, September 10 to Saturday, September 13 2013: 6 Friday, August 16 to Thursday, August 22 Williams 2012: 9 Wednesday, May 23 to Friday, June 1 2011: 5 Friday, August 5 to Tuesday, August 9 and Friday, August 26 to Tuesday, August 30 2010: 11 Tuesday, June 15 to Saturday, June 26 2009: 7 Saturday, June 27 to Friday, July 3 2008: 8 Wednesday, May 14 to Thursday, May 22 2007: 4 Wednesday, April 18 to Saturday, April 21, Wednesday, May 9 to Saturday, May 12, Monday, June 25 to Thursday, June 28, Thursday, August 2 to Sunday, August 5 and Wednesday, September 26 to Saturday September 29 2006: 9 Thursday, June 15 to Saturday, June 24 2005: 8 Monday, April 18 to Monday, April 25, Saturday, April 30 to Sunday, May 8 and Wednesday, June 15 to Friday, June 24 2004: 5 Saturday, June 26 to Thursday, July 1 2003: 8 Friday, July 18 to Friday, July 25 2002: 7 Tuesday, August 27 to Tuesday, September 3 2001: 5 Thursday, May 24 to Monday, May 28, Wednesday, May 30 to Tuesday, June 5 and Friday, July 13 to Tuesday, July 17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shago Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 Accountability 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Balta1701 Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 4 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Bump I just realized it’s your thread’s one year birthday next week. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 15, 2023 Author Share Posted July 15, 2023 6 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: I just realized it’s your thread’s one year birthday next week. Lol…time flies when you’re having fun! But seriously, the real question is now more birthdays will this thread have. Hopefully next week is the last. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Balta1701 said: I just realized it’s your thread’s one year birthday next week. Sounds like as good a time as any. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 8 hours ago, Balta1701 said: I just realized it’s your thread’s one year birthday next week. I also realized that. Sadly, a year from now this thread will still be getting regular comments, because Hahn will still be the GM. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 43 minutes ago, oldsox said: I also realized that. Sadly, a year from now this thread will still be getting regular comments, because Hahn will still be the GM. And will be at 200 pages 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy U Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 In honor of the anniversary, perhaps mods just merge all threads into one mega "Fire Rick Hahn" thread because that's basically what all the other ones boil down to anyway. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 Was getting too close to the bottom 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 https://www.yahoo.com/sports/nightengales-notebook-end-road-clayton-104003063.html Reading about Craig Counsell...just goes to how far away from a great manager that Grifol is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 I mean, yea, please go ahead and do this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatScott82 Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 It’s a shame KW/Hahn wont just pull a Theo Epstein and resign. We all know Jerry isn’t firing his buddies. I’m not the biggest fan of Theo, but I do admire his leadership and the ability of knowing when it’s time to step down from a front office position. He mentioned in an interview that change in leadership is more than necessary after 10 years. Things get stale, and when it is no longer working, it’s time to give someone else a shot at it. It’s safe to say things have been very stale on the Southside. Fans have had enough of this current front office and change is not only necessary but it should be demanded by every Sox fan. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 40 minutes ago, GreatScott82 said: It’s a shame KW/Hahn wont just pull a Theo Epstein and resign. We all know Jerry isn’t firing his buddies. I’m not the biggest fan of Theo, but I do admire his leadership and the ability of knowing when it’s time to step down from a front office position. He mentioned in an interview that change in leadership is more than necessary after 10 years. Things get stale, and when it is no longer working, it’s time to give someone else a shot at it. It’s safe to say things have been very stale on the Southside. Fans have had enough of this current front office and change is not only necessary but it should be demanded by every Sox fan. I think Sox fans in various ways have been indicating how frustrated and disgusted they are with the situation. Unfortunately the owner doesn't care, he's making a lot of money and at his age refuses to change his beliefs plus JR has never liked being told or forced to do something he doesn't want to do. Basically you just take care of yourself and hope to outlive current ownership...that's really all you can do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 (edited) Wasn't it Ken Williams who basically said having a top rated minor league system is no big deal and if he wanted to he could make trades tomorrow to have one? To be clear, I don't condone this but if Hahn were to trade everyone of value on the major league roster....how highly ranked could he get the Sox minor league system? Top 15?? Edited July 20, 2023 by wegner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 1 minute ago, wegner said: Wasn't it Ken Williams who basically said having a top minor league system is no big deal and if he wanted to he could make trades tomorrow to get it? To be clear, I don't condone this but if Hahn were to trade everyone of value on the major league roster....how highly ranked could he get the Sox minor league system? Top 15?? I don't ever recall Kenny saying anything along those lines. Doesn't mean it didn't happen but I don't remember anything like that. I do remember JR saying that he doesn't believe in paying for "potential." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerksticks Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 18 minutes ago, wegner said: Wasn't it Ken Williams who basically said having a top rated minor league system is no big deal and if he wanted to he could make trades tomorrow to have one? To be clear, I don't condone this but if Hahn were to trade everyone of value on the major league roster....how highly ranked could he get the Sox minor league system? Top 15?? It would be #1 immediately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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