Texsox Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 1 minute ago, South Side Hit Men said: True, my bad. OK with contraction to 14 or expansion to 16. Think the most feasible solution is to have two divisions in each league and four playoff teams. Best of 7 = up to 28 games. Current set up will have an extra week of playoffs, but the regular season is diluted with these unworthy teams in the playoffs. I put asterisks by wild card "World Champions", they couldn't even win a four or five team division. Once you have more than one team in the playoffs you have an "unworthy" team. The only question is how many unworthy teams you want in. To me at some point in the season you stop to eliminate some bad teams and allow better teams to continue. We typically call that playoffs. At that point the league is more interesting. I'm in favor of any plan that cuts the crappy teams early. That means a shorter regular season and more playoffs. Keeping bad teams around longer doesn't make the games more meaningful. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 15 minutes ago, maxjusttyped said: Why not try to find another Santos/Middleton instead of wasting a roster spot on 38 year old Bryan Shaw? Hoping they claim Phil Bickford to take Shaw’s spot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Sox Park Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 I don't know if it's because of the trades, or if it's just one of those streaks where teams just play well, but I hope they keep it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 1 minute ago, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said: Hoping they claim Phil Bickford to take Shaw’s spot. That seems like a no brainer to me, but if the Sox were interested, wouldn't he have been in the Lynn/Kelly trade? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 How about this is. (Which could never happen logistically). After 80 games divide into two divisions a 16 team loser division and a 14 team winner division. They each play an additional 80 game regular season with a four team upper division playoff. No playoffs for the losers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 4 minutes ago, Texsox said: How about this is. (Which could never happen logistically). After 80 games divide into two divisions a 16 team loser division and a 14 team winner division. They each play an additional 80 game regular season with a four team upper division playoff. No playoffs for the losers. I actually like splitting up the season into halves somehow, so that a team well out of it but starting to play well has some hope for a "new" season at the half way break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 17 minutes ago, South Side Hit Men said: The pathetic MLB owners tried to pull bullshit by ending relegation and creating a Super League. Europeans wouldn't stand for that bullshit. North American owners would never risk relegation, it would never happen, but doesn't mean it shouldn't. Would cure tanking incentives for certain. It could also increase tanking depending on how the finances are distributed. Not much different than now if TV and other money is equally distributed. Profits could be greater for a second division team with a low payroll. V The AAA to MLB sounded good until I realized a franchise could have two teams in MLB and another franchise none. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfaninfl Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 21 minutes ago, hankchifan said: Too bad that the Sox waited so long to get wins like the last two days. I guess they don’t feel as much pressure now as the sell off has been defined. Guess the relief valve was released after the trades. Was hoping all year someone (read Pedro) would help take the pressure off and it is unfortunate it took punting the season to finally see some smiles. Could be short-lived but maybe they start playing better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 You can only win the World Series one game at a time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 48 minutes ago, maxjusttyped said: TA looking very TAish over the last few weeks Good. Maybe someone will trade for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hankchifan Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 13 minutes ago, soxfaninfl said: Guess the relief valve was released after the trades. Was hoping all year someone (read Pedro) would help take the pressure off and it is unfortunate it took punting the season to finally see some smiles. Could be short-lived but maybe they start playing better. Pedro has lacked leadership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 Watch out AL Central. About to go on a heater! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, DirtySox said: Watch out AL Central. About to go on a heater! May as well Major League this thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 6 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: May as well Major League this thing I have no desire to see Hahn get stripped to his skivies 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zisk Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 the last 3 days have been the best in at least a year. get rid of a few more whiners please. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydBannister1983 Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 2 hours ago, wegner said: I actually like splitting up the season into halves somehow, so that a team well out of it but starting to play well has some hope for a "new" season at the half way break. They did it in 1981. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almagest Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 2 hours ago, wegner said: I have no desire to see Hahn get stripped to his skivies It'd be Reinsdorf if we're following the movie plot 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 2 hours ago, Texsox said: Once you have more than one team in the playoffs you have an "unworthy" team. The only question is how many unworthy teams you want in. To me at some point in the season you stop to eliminate some bad teams and allow better teams to continue. We typically call that playoffs. At that point the league is more interesting. I'm in favor of any plan that cuts the crappy teams early. That means a shorter regular season and more playoffs. Keeping bad teams around longer doesn't make the games more meaningful. This is not an accurate assessment of my proposal. What I offered was a round robin intro-league schedule for each of the two leagues, and the league champions compete in a World Series, the same format as 1903 & 1905-1968. The owners created a divisional format in 1969. It is the second best proposal pitting each of the four division winners. Only division winners are eligible. While it’s not my preference, the division playoff format held between 1969-1993 until Jerry and his hand puppet Bud Selig cancelled the 1994 season was acceptable. This format is certainly preferable to the complete garbage system of the past 28 years, now to the point where a fourth place team in a five team division can make the playoffs. It’s pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 2 hours ago, Texsox said: It could also increase tanking depending on how the finances are distributed. Not much different than now if TV and other money is equally distributed. Profits could be greater for a second division team with a low payroll. V The AAA to MLB sounded good until I realized a franchise could have two teams in MLB and another franchise none. All teams would be independent, no team or franchise would own multiple franchises as they do today, consistent with how the minor leagues were operated until Branch Rickey created the Farm System in Saint Louis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 30, 2023 Author Share Posted July 30, 2023 8 hours ago, Texsox said: How about this is. (Which could never happen logistically). After 80 games divide into two divisions a 16 team loser division and a 14 team winner division. They each play an additional 80 game regular season with a four team upper division playoff. No playoffs for the losers. Starting to sound more like the NBA... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 30, 2023 Author Share Posted July 30, 2023 5 hours ago, South Side Hit Men said: This is not an accurate assessment of my proposal. What I offered was a round robin intro-league schedule for each of the two leagues, and the league champions compete in a World Series, the same format as 1903 & 1905-1968. The owners created a divisional format in 1969. It is the second best proposal pitting each of the four division winners. Only division winners are eligible. While it’s not my preference, the division playoff format held between 1969-1993 until Jerry and his hand puppet Bud Selig cancelled the 1994 season was acceptable. This format is certainly preferable to the complete garbage system of the past 28 years, now to the point where a fourth place team in a five team division can make the playoffs. It’s pathetic. Well...would fans rather watch the Central winner or Boston/NY/LAA etc.? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Mite Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 9 hours ago, White Sox Park said: I don't know if it's because of the trades, or if it's just one of those streaks where teams just play well, but I hope they keep it up. Unfortunately with this team, a winning streak is usually 2 games. They did look good the last 2 games and maybe they can keep it going for a week or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 30, 2023 Author Share Posted July 30, 2023 1 hour ago, The Mighty Mite said: Unfortunately with this team, a winning streak is usually 2 games. They did look good the last 2 games and maybe they can keep it going for a week or so. See Braves series... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 8 hours ago, South Side Hit Men said: This is not an accurate assessment of my proposal. What I offered was a round robin intro-league schedule for each of the two leagues, and the league champions compete in a World Series, the same format as 1903 & 1905-1968. The owners created a divisional format in 1969. It is the second best proposal pitting each of the four division winners. Only division winners are eligible. While it’s not my preference, the division playoff format held between 1969-1993 until Jerry and his hand puppet Bud Selig cancelled the 1994 season was acceptable. This format is certainly preferable to the complete garbage system of the past 28 years, now to the point where a fourth place team in a five team division can make the playoffs. It’s pathetic. You want to keep bad teams around as long as possible. As a Sox that makes sense. I want bad teams out sooner so the good teams can start playing each other. The shorter the regular season, the more meaningful each game is. Lose one game out of 162 is much different than losing one game out of three, four or seven. We can call it eliminating them from some of the regular season if you prefer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 8 hours ago, South Side Hit Men said: All teams would be independent, no team or franchise would own multiple franchises as they do today, consistent with how the minor leagues were operated until Branch Rickey created the Farm System in Saint Louis. Ok. So teams wouldn't be responsible for developing their own players. As a Sox fan I see how that would be a boost. Would you eliminate the draft then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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