Dick Allen Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Never forget. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomas Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 This manager and new GM came from KC. Enough said. We sit and watch other organizations make efforts to improve the manager position (Cubs) and we continue with Double AA quality, manager, coaches and players. Sickening 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREEDY Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 Did the Sox fire any staff that was still under contract? Or retain any staff that wasn't under contract? I feel like this is the most telling sign that Getz is here to balance the budget. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Harold Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 22 hours ago, GREEDY said: Did the Sox fire any staff that was still under contract? Or retain any staff that wasn't under contract? I feel like this is the most telling sign that Getz is here to balance the budget. Jose Castro, Daryl Boston, and Chris Johnson were let go/left. I'd guess that Castro probably had more term on his deal considering he was one and done, but the Sox don't typically disclose that information for whatever reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Harold Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 Had to bump this as it fell all the way to page 3, which quite frankly is unacceptable IMO. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 Fire Pedro. Ad Infinitum. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 At the risk of being called a troll I'll be happy on the day we close this thread and welcome a new manager. I'll even be happy if he proves me wrong and can manage a winning club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 15, 2023 Author Share Posted December 15, 2023 Bump…can’t let this fall to the 4th page 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 2 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said: Bump…can’t let this fall to the 4th page 👆👆👆 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 I don't know if this string is the best place for this, but I just read an interesting article on Fangraphs about how horrible the White Sox were with roster depth. https://blogs.fangraphs.com/how-not-to-build-for-depth/ Spoiler alert: They had no one to plug in from the minors, their waiver churn didn't work, and they just ended up playing guys who weren't ready. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, WestEddy said: I don't know if this string is the best place for this, but I just read an interesting article on Fangraphs about how horrible the White Sox were with roster depth. https://blogs.fangraphs.com/how-not-to-build-for-depth/ Spoiler alert: They had no one to plug in from the minors, their waiver churn didn't work, and they just ended up playing guys who weren't ready. Quote But they were remarkably healthy – the second-healthiest team in the game, by some accounts – and so they ended up with a normal amount of playing time allocated to players on the initial roster despite all the fill-ins needed for the players who got traded. Wasn't there some poster during the year who kept saying this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 14 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: Wasn't there some poster during the year who kept saying this? Their team was on the field and that was the problem. How on God's green earth did Rick/Kenny/Tony/Pedro/Jerry etc screw this up so badly?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 1 minute ago, wegner said: How on God's green earth did Rick/Kenny/Tony/Pedro/Jerry etc screw this up so badly?? Isn't this what happened in 2013? All the starters tanked, and they didn't replace them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 14 minutes ago, wegner said: Their team was on the field and that was the problem. How on God's green earth did Rick/Kenny/Tony/Pedro/Jerry etc screw this up so badly?? Literally went from a team many picked to win the WS to one of the three worst teams in baseball within two years 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Harold Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 14 minutes ago, fathom said: Literally went from a team many picked to win the WS to one of the three worst teams in baseball within two years In a sick and twisted way it's kind of impressive how quickly things went south. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 34 minutes ago, fathom said: Literally went from a team many picked to win the WS to one of the three worst teams in baseball within two years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 1 hour ago, WestEddy said: I don't know if this string is the best place for this, but I just read an interesting article on Fangraphs about how horrible the White Sox were with roster depth. https://blogs.fangraphs.com/how-not-to-build-for-depth/ Spoiler alert: They had no one to plug in from the minors, their waiver churn didn't work, and they just ended up playing guys who weren't ready. Great article and some pretty good comments too. It just goes to show how little JR invests in acquiring and developing youth. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 1 hour ago, WestEddy said: Isn't this what happened in 2013? All the starters tanked, and they didn't replace them. Dunn really set them back, but that was 2011. This was around the time they brought in Abreu and Avisail Garcia actually looked legit...then you had Sale Q, Anderson coming. Eaton later. The big flops of course were Beckham and Viciedo, though. Nothing ever lined up together, though. Then there was the off season of Melky Robertson and LaRoche...which led to more disasters internally. But Hahn always won the offseason, lol. There was that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 2 hours ago, Balta1701 said: Wasn't there some poster during the year who kept saying this? Balta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 2 hours ago, wegner said: Their team was on the field and that was the problem. How on God's green earth did Rick/Kenny/Tony/Pedro/Jerry etc screw this up so badly?? Arrogance that they thought they knew better than everyone else, dysfunction in the front office and an unwillingness by JR to finish the rebuilding job via acquiring additional talent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 The lesson is if you are in such bad shape you need to rebuild, don't let the same people that got you in thar mess try to rebuild the team. At some point, they will make the same mistakes and have the same results that weren't good enough before. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 3 hours ago, fathom said: Literally went from a team many picked to win the WS to one of the three worst teams in baseball within two years This is a franchise that has actually gone from winning the World Series to being one of the worst teams in baseball within two years. So, it’s not exactly surprising. 1 hour ago, caulfield12 said: Dunn really set them back, but that was 2011. This was around the time they brought in Abreu and Avisail Garcia actually looked legit...then you had Sale Q, Anderson coming. Eaton later. The big flops of course were Beckham and Viciedo, though. Nothing ever lined up together, though. Then there was the off season of Melky Robertson and LaRoche...which led to more disasters internally. But Hahn always won the offseason, lol. There was that. I had to read that twice because I was sure his last name was Cabrera 😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 Still needs to go. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Harold Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 22 hours ago, Dick Allen said: Still needs to go. Would be quite the Christmas miracle... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 Still time for Getz to Scott Skiles his sorry ass… 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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