caulfield12 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 17 minutes ago, poppysox said: When healthy I like our chances with a core of Moncada, Benintendi, Robert, Eloy, Vaughn. IMO DeJong is a fine bridge to Montgomery, and I think Lopez will get lots of playing time as super-sub. Cease should / will be traded to whichever team fills two of the three remaining RF, 2nd base, and catcher positions with good but perhaps blocked players. They should be ML ready not future hope and dream type players. This assumes of course that JR was serious about competing this year. Finish the Cease trade with however many serviceable arms make the deal work. Use free agency for that position still needing improvement and a couple of arms. Personally, I feel we improved by the subtraction of Grandal, Anderson, and Bummer. The pitchers we lost were nothing to write home about either. It's not the 27' Yanks but this squad would compete for a playoff spot IMO. This feels like the script being utilised by ticket agents with disbelieving season renewals....and Pedro Grifol already has one full year under his belt, all the negative influences but two are gone, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 26 minutes ago, poppysox said: When healthy I like our chances with a core of Moncada, Benintendi, Robert, Eloy, Vaughn. IMO DeJong is a fine bridge to Montgomery, and I think Lopez will get lots of playing time as super-sub. Cease should / will be traded to whichever team fills two of the three remaining RF, 2nd base, and catcher positions with good but perhaps blocked players. They should be ML ready not future hope and dream type players. This assumes of course that JR was serious about competing this year. Finish the Cease trade with however many serviceable arms make the deal work. Use free agency for that position still needing improvement and a couple of arms. Personally, I feel we improved by the subtraction of Grandal, Anderson, and Bummer. The pitchers we lost were nothing to write home about either. It's not the 27' Yanks but this squad would compete for a playoff spot IMO. This team is going to be worse than last year 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baseball_gal_aly Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 33 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: This team is going to be worse than last year They could threaten the 1962 Mets 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 1 hour ago, poppysox said: When healthy I like our chances with a core of Moncada, Benintendi, Robert, Eloy, Vaughn. IMO DeJong is a fine bridge to Montgomery, and I think Lopez will get lots of playing time as super-sub. Cease should / will be traded to whichever team fills two of the three remaining RF, 2nd base, and catcher positions with good but perhaps blocked players. They should be ML ready not future hope and dream type players. This assumes of course that JR was serious about competing this year. Finish the Cease trade with however many serviceable arms make the deal work. Use free agency for that position still needing improvement and a couple of arms. Personally, I feel we improved by the subtraction of Grandal, Anderson, and Bummer. The pitchers we lost were nothing to write home about either. It's not the 27' Yanks but this squad would compete for a playoff spot IMO. The lineup will be awful and the rotation will be fodder filled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 10 minutes ago, hi8is said: The lineup will be awful and the rotation will be fodder filled. You must be clairvoyant. I don't know what the lineup or rotation will be yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 7 minutes ago, poppysox said: You must be clairvoyant. I don't know what the lineup or rotation will be yet. Just look at what is on the table and what’s possible when you cut out Cease with a lowered payroll. This team will be losing ugly. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 7 minutes ago, hi8is said: Just look at what is on the table and what’s possible when you cut out Cease with a lowered payroll. This team will be losing ugly. I hope you are wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 1 hour ago, poppysox said: When healthy I like our chances with a core of Moncada, Benintendi, Robert, Eloy, Vaughn. IMO DeJong is a fine bridge to Montgomery, and I think Lopez will get lots of playing time as super-sub. Cease should / will be traded to whichever team fills two of the three remaining RF, 2nd base, and catcher positions with good but perhaps blocked players. They should be ML ready not future hope and dream type players. This assumes of course that JR was serious about competing this year. Finish the Cease trade with however many serviceable arms make the deal work. Use free agency for that position still needing improvement and a couple of arms. Personally, I feel we improved by the subtraction of Grandal, Anderson, and Bummer. The pitchers we lost were nothing to write home about either. It's not the 27' Yanks but this squad would compete for a playoff spot IMO. This is like hoping you can catch lightning in one of those 3 oz. containers they let you bring on planes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 Ugh.....now even Jimmy is jumping on the ATL train. IDGAF how desperate they are, RHP is all they have. They are an awful match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 8 minutes ago, SoCalChiSox said: Ugh.....now even Jimmy is jumping on the ATL train. IDGAF how desperate they are, RHP is all they have. They are an awful match. AJSS and Waldrep are somewhat intriguing but yeah I’m hoping someone else steps up and offers more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 26 minutes ago, poppysox said: I hope you are wrong. Me too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said: AJSS and Waldrep are somewhat intriguing but yeah I’m hoping someone else steps up and offers more. It's still very early, and no rush at the moment for him to be moved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 21 minutes ago, Quin said: This is like hoping you can catch lightning in one of those 3 oz. containers they let you bring on planes Let's just say I am willing to give Getz a chance before I slit my throat like most here. As a fan since 1955 I have seen good teams and horrible teams. Teams that are surprisingly good and those that disappoint mightily. The WS are my team and that won't be changing anytime soon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SoCalChiSox Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 3 minutes ago, Whisox05 said: I.e. add more to Busch and Stone/Frasso. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 24 minutes ago, poppysox said: Let's just say I am willing to give Getz a chance before I slit my throat like most here. As a fan since 1955 I have seen good teams and horrible teams. Teams that are surprisingly good and those that disappoint mightily. The WS are my team and that won't be changing anytime soon. It's not Getz' acumen which will impact the roster the next few years as much as his budget. The previous four seasons were an abject failure, the FO was replaced and payroll is reverting to normal low $100M Sox standards for the time being until they can show they have an adequate core to invest and build around. The only way out of this hole is for the Sox to vastly improve drafting and signing quality amateurs and developing them into contributing ball players. It's going to take time, but I'm willing to give it a chance as long as they give a credible timeline and show evidence they can succeed where Hahn could not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 41 minutes ago, South Side Hit Men said: It's not Getz' acumen which will impact the roster the next few years as much as his budget. The previous four seasons were an abject failure, the FO was replaced and payroll is reverting to normal low $100M Sox standards for the time being until they can show they have an adequate core to invest and build around. The only way out of this hole is for the Sox to vastly improve drafting and signing quality amateurs and developing them into contributing ball players. It's going to take time, but I'm willing to give it a chance as long as they give a credible timeline and show evidence they can succeed where Hahn could not. Ding ding ding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 https://x.com/jonmorosi/status/1731450645675196609?s=46&t=Wr6gOVOo8Za8Bnez19t84w Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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poppysox Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 57 minutes ago, South Side Hit Men said: It's not Getz' acumen which will impact the roster the next few years as much as his budget. The previous four seasons were an abject failure, the FO was replaced and payroll is reverting to normal low $100M Sox standards for the time being until they can show they have an adequate core to invest and build around. The only way out of this hole is for the Sox to vastly improve drafting and signing quality amateurs and developing them into contributing ball players. It's going to take time, but I'm willing to give it a chance as long as they give a credible timeline and show evidence they can succeed where Hahn could not. I didn't get the memo that payrolls were reverting to low 100's...if that is the case...I agree with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 Typical Bob with the White Sox internal info preaching patience and waiting it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 25 minutes ago, Whisox05 said: If it's really robust, there is NO EXCUSE to accept 2 pitchers and another RH loser in Grissom. None. Baltimore all the way. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 3 minutes ago, SoCalChiSox said: If it's really robust, there is NO EXCUSE to accept 2 pitchers and another RH loser in Grissom. None. Baltimore all the way. RH loser 🙄 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, bmags said: RH loser 🙄 Yeah, that seems unnecessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: Yeah, that seems unnecessary. No it isn't. It's time to prioritize what we actually need and not add more mediocre RH players. I'm sick of that s%*#. Enough is enough. Edited December 4, 2023 by SoCalChiSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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