GGajewski18 Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 1 hour ago, SoCalChiSox said: I.e. add more to Busch and Stone/Frasso. Hard no on Busch. Dude is already 26 years old with barely any MLB experience. Give me Rushing, Pages, De Paula and Stone 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 8 minutes ago, SoCalChiSox said: No it isn't. It's time to prioritize what we actually need and not add more mediocre RH players. I'm sick of that s%*#. Enough is enough. They’re so far away from contending, I’d rather they just get good players and worry about lineup balance down the road. 5 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 (edited) 41 minutes ago, SoCalChiSox said: No it isn't. It's time to prioritize what we actually need and not add more mediocre RH players. I'm sick of that s%*#. Enough is enough. RH is Rick Hahn, or Right-Handed, or both? Unfortunately, they lost mediocre as the standard this past April. Edited December 4, 2023 by caulfield12 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, poppysox said: I didn't get the memo that payrolls were reverting to low 100's...if that is the case...I agree with you. If they strip away Benintendi and Moncada, they're getting closer and closer....that won't happen until at least the trade deadline. Of they simply get stuck with AB until he retires, ala the Royals with Alex Gordon. Hopefully he starts out well enough to garner some interest and they can dump him at 50 cents on the dollar at some point. Although they might not be able to afford to cut a $30 million check in 2024. JR has a thing about extricating every possible ounce of value out of players and coaches/managers, with very very FEW exceptions. Edited December 4, 2023 by caulfield12 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 1 hour ago, SoCalChiSox said: If it's really robust, there is NO EXCUSE to accept 2 pitchers and another RH loser in Grissom. None. Baltimore all the way. Unless Baltimore remains obstinate about paying the prospect price 🙄🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Tnetennba said: Unless Baltimore remains obstinate about paying the prospect price 🙄🙄 According to the report we received the issue was Cowser. Most people here would prefer Kjerstad anyway. I realize Getz likes well rounded players but Kjerstad has the arm for RF and someone in the lineup has to provide legit LHS at cleanup and also to protect Robert, as opposed to limp dick players masquerading as a LHS (*cough..Beni, yoyo..cough*). IMO, if it came down to Kjerstad and Norby and an semi ok third piece most people here would probably take that than ATLs 2 SPs and Grissom and most would prolly prefer that to Busch and Stone too. Edited December 4, 2023 by SoCalChiSox 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 4, 2023 Author Share Posted December 4, 2023 10 minutes ago, SoCalChiSox said: According to the report we received the issue was Cowser. Most people here would prefer Kjerstad anyway. I realize Getz likes well rounded players but Kjerstad has the arm for RF and someone in the lineup has to provide legit LHS at cleanup and also to protect Robert, as opposed to limp dick players masquerading as a LHS (*cough..Beni, yoyo..cough*). IMO, if it came down to Kjerstad and Norby and an semi ok third piece most people here would probably take that than ATLs 2 SPs and Grissom and most would prolly prefer that to Busch and Stone too. I’d be very disappointed with Norby as the 2nd piece in a trade. I love Kjerstad but think another team would be able to beat that offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: I’d be very disappointed with Norby as the 2nd piece in a trade. I love Kjerstad but think another team would be able to beat that offer. Most were thinking Ortiz but it seems they prefer Norby. Perhaps they don't want to admit CM will not stick at SS. BAL isn't going to include Mayo or basallo, so who would be your second piece if they didn't want Ortiz for whatever reason? Edited December 4, 2023 by SoCalChiSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 4, 2023 Author Share Posted December 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, SoCalChiSox said: Most were thinking Ortiz but it seems they prefer Norby. Perhaps they don't want to admit CM will not stick at SS. BAL isn't going to include Mayo or basallo, so who would be your second piece if they didn't want Ortiz for whatever reason I don’t buy they prefer Norby over Ortiz unless it’s a pure age. A RH bat first 2B just doesn’t seem like what Getz is prioritizing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: I don’t buy they prefer Norby over Ortiz unless it’s a pure age. A RH bat first 2B just doesn’t seem like what Getz is prioritizing. I agree that Getz seems he would strongly prefer a double plus glove at keystone or SS, so if macsandz report is correct, perhaps they think his bat is well below 50/50 and basically can't be anything other than 9 hitter. That's the only other thing that could explain it. Edited December 4, 2023 by SoCalChiSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 2 hours ago, SoCalChiSox said: If it's really robust, there is NO EXCUSE to accept 2 pitchers and another RH loser in Grissom. None. Baltimore all the way. ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 42 minutes ago, SoCalChiSox said: According to the report we received the issue was Cowser. Most people here would prefer Kjerstad anyway. I realize Getz likes well rounded players but Kjerstad has the arm for RF and someone in the lineup has to provide legit LHS at cleanup and also to protect Robert, as opposed to limp dick players masquerading as a LHS (*cough..Beni, yoyo..cough*). IMO, if it came down to Kjerstad and Norby and an semi ok third piece most people here would probably take that than ATLs 2 SPs and Grissom and most would prolly prefer that to Busch and Stone too. Yeah, zero interest in what ATL has to offer. Baltimore >>, that is if they get serious about winning in the post season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy U Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 1 hour ago, SoCalChiSox said: Most were thinking Ortiz but it seems they prefer Norby. Perhaps they don't want to admit CM will not stick at SS. BAL isn't going to include Mayo or basallo, so who would be your second piece if they didn't want Ortiz for whatever reason? I can see preferring Norby to Ortiz. Ortiz is aging out of true prospect status. He’s a plus glove at short, but I would not bet the bat plays anywhere else. If you’re committed to Montgomery at ss, Norby might make more sense. I bet Baltimore doesn’t pull the trigger on any of it, though. The cheapskates may be a landing spot for Gio. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick Mercedes Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Chicago White Sox said: I’d be very disappointed with Norby as the 2nd piece in a trade. I love Kjerstad but think another team would be able to beat that offer. If the Sox are so impatient to get a deal done quickly, expect a disappointing outcome. They gotta be willing to pull Cease off the trading block, and trade him at the deadline. The sharks probably smell weakness and inexperience. Maybe they even smell a Cease decline. In which case, yeah, the Sox have to rush the deal. But that's an easy read for the league then. Do you expect to see top offers? I don't. Not until Cease is back on the bump, shutting teams down. Edited December 4, 2023 by Chick Mercedes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxnfins Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 Mayo should be the headliner with any Orioles deal and Kjerstad/Ortiz as a second piece and then someone like a povich. Then it’s a solid haul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Timmy U said: I can see preferring Norby to Ortiz. Ortiz is aging out of true prospect status. He’s a plus glove at short, but I would not bet the bat plays anywhere else. If you’re committed to Montgomery at ss, Norby might make more sense. I bet Baltimore doesn’t pull the trigger on any of it, though. The cheapskates may be a landing spot for Gio. Pretty sure Gia is signing with the Dodgers. At least, there seemed to be a lot of smoke there. Edited December 4, 2023 by CWSpalehoseCWS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macsandz Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, SoCalChiSox said: I agree that Getz seems he would strongly prefer a double plus glove at keystone or SS, so if macsandz report is correct, perhaps they think his bat is well below 50/50 and basically can't be anything other than 9 hitter. That's the only other thing that could explain it. It's Norby's make up that stands out. That's a crucial part of evals with Getz. It's not just the projections. Edited December 4, 2023 by macsandz brevity 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 1 minute ago, macsandz said: It's Norby's make up that stands out. That's a crucial part of evals with Getz. It's not just the projections. Thanks for the clarification. Anything new on the BAL front? IMO, Getz shouldn't get hung up on Cowser. Hopefully, if we accept Kjerstad as the top piece BAL will be more reasonable on enhancing other pieces. I really really hope ATL isn't the trading partner that will be fucking horrible. Give us some good morsels to chew on bro... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 12 minutes ago, macsandz said: It's Norby's make up that stands out. That's a crucial part of evals with Getz. It's not just the projections. Please give us some nuggets I’m begging. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 Morosi said the Giants are in on Cease. Not sure if that’s new info but I hadn’t seen that until now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Chick Mercedes said: The sharks probably smell weakness and inexperience. Mike Elias, GM of the Orioles has worked in a front office since 2011. Getz has since 2014. I think Getz will be okay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick Mercedes Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 7 minutes ago, WestEddy said: Mike Elias, GM of the Orioles has worked in a front office since 2011. Getz has since 2014. I think Getz will be okay. Getz was in player development until 2021. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macsandz Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 22 minutes ago, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said: Please give us some nuggets I’m begging. It's tight now so I don't have much. Eloy's value is...down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macsandz Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 (edited) 36 minutes ago, SoCalChiSox said: Give us some good morsels to chew on bro... I'm not likely gonna have much of anything for a while Edited December 4, 2023 by macsandz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 Kelenic to Braves. They need a lf, they also needed interesting bats for a Cease deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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