ChiSox59 Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 All these guys except Soroka have multiple options too, which is nice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 Yep, good potential trade. Time will tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 1 minute ago, fathom said: They still will go after FA starters. They have 4 holes likely once Cease is dealt. Please tell me they’re going to move on from Kopech. Please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 Just now, Bob Sacamano said: Please tell me they’re going to move on from Kopech. Please. No chance…he’s Bannister’s biggest project Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: Please tell me they’re going to move on from Kopech. Please. If Kopech stays, it’s gotta be bullpen. He deserves to be given up on as a starter. Edited November 17, 2023 by flavum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 This is called addition by subtraction. Bummer usually lived up to his name. Good riddance. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 14 minutes ago, fathom said: No doubt in my mind that Dejong-Lopez will be the middle infield to start the season Good way to have a combined batting average of .400 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nokona Posted November 17, 2023 Author Share Posted November 17, 2023 Lots of pitching nerds were getting excited about Shuster last spring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baseball_gal_aly Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 6 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 I loved Shuster at draft time and lost track after that. Can I still be hopeful? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 1 minute ago, baseball_gal_aly said: I kinda got over that 4-5 years ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baseball_gal_aly Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 Anyway, seems like a junk for junk deal but its a lot of filler for a team that needs it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 22 minutes ago, fathom said: Should have got Velazquez from the Cubs I always thought Bummer was a perfect fit for the Cubs with how solid their middle infield defense is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 Shuster, Soroka, Lopez, and Shewmake are on the 40-man which is now full. Lot of DFA candidates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, flavum said: Shuster, Soroka, Lopez, and Shewmake are on the 40-man which is now full. Lot of DFA candidates. For some reason I thought it was at 35? With now a gain of 3 (adding those 4, subtracting Bummer). Edit: you’re right though. Probably non-tender/DFA at least 3 guys tomorrow. Edited November 17, 2023 by Bob Sacamano Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: For some reason I thought it was at 35? With now a gain of 3 (adding those 4, subtracting Bummer). Edit: you’re right though. Probably non-tender/DFA at least 3 guys tomorrow. It was up to 37 with Mena and Eder. They really don’t have to jettison guys now, but looking at the 40–man, there is still a bunch of easily dumped AAAA guys. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 Just now, flavum said: It was up to 37 with Mena and Eder. They really don’t have to jettison guys now, but looking at the 40–man, there is still a bunch of easily dumped AAAA guys. Sheets, Remillard, Foster, maybe Romy to name a few. And that’s just off the top of my head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tray Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 Bummer could not get the ball over the plate to start the 7th inning in a close game while Steve Stone just kept marveling at how great his stuff was. He made himself useless as a set-up man because of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 11 minutes ago, flavum said: Shuster, Soroka, Lopez, and Shewmake are on the 40-man which is now full. Lot of DFA candidates. Let the DFAs begin! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 7 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: Sheets, Remillard, Foster, maybe Romy to name a few. And that’s just off the top of my head. Sheets, Foster, Remillard, Romy, Hasley all could go and no one would be upset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 I think if there’s one stat you can look at and call this a good trade it’s Bummer having WHIP over 1.500 over the last two seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 58 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: I feel like adding Soroka to rotation over a gamble in free agency making ~$10M makes it feel like payroll is getting slashed even more than we expect. Remember, once we trade Cease we basically have 1/2 of a SP. While I’m expecting a pretty large payroll reduction, I still envision at least one, if not two, ~$10M or so free agent signings.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Remember, once we trade Cease we basically have 1/2 of a SP. While I’m expecting a pretty large payroll reduction, I still envision at least one, if not two, ~$10M or so free agent signings.. Man, f*** the new rule about not being able to get above the #10 pick. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 (edited) First thought after seeing this is there is going to be a lot of roster turnover with the 40-Man full. Not a terrible trade, but nothing to get me overly excited. Edited November 17, 2023 by CWSpalehoseCWS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 1 hour ago, SoxAce said: Benetti is going to be absolutely devastated that the pride of Naperville returns home and he won't get to call his games. Boyer ordered Getz to acquire Lopez to extract revenge for all the bad Benetti press this week. In all seriousness, wonder if the Sox will non-tender any of their return based on the projected arbitration values, or if they sent any cash in the deal. Regardless, it's a good deal for a reliever which I hope for his sake bounces back so he can get a solid deal in FA. https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2023/11/braves-acquire-aaron-bummer-in-six-player-deal.html $3.9M Arb Estimate "Naperville" Nicky Lopez ($4.0M estimate per BP/Cot's) $3.0M Arb Estimate Michael Soroka ($3.15M estimate per BP/Cot's) $0.8M Braden Shewmake $0.8M Jared Shuster Minor League $ - Riley Gowens After the bump, Cot's Contracts has the projected White Sox 26 man 2024 payroll at $109.8M, not counting buyouts beyond Leury, or deferred payments to Jose Abreu and Liam Hendriks. A new owner gets a very clean slate compared to most teams. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1C4dU46AiC_pt1GtzakmASUg9UD_UnpG32kdRZ3clOnk/edit#gid=1520401900 $109.8M 2024 commitments/estimates $40.10M 2025 c/e $19.1M 2026 c/e $15.1M 2027 $0.0M 2028 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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