SoCalChiSox Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 https://theathletic.com/5258158/2024/02/09/mlb-farm-system-rankings-2024/ Didn't expect us to make Top 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 8 minutes ago, SoCalChiSox said: https://theathletic.com/5258158/2024/02/09/mlb-farm-system-rankings-2024/ Didn't expect us to make Top 10. I did after he ranked 5 guys in the top 100 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 Giving Sox kudos on development. Hopefully he is right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 Ten our so years ago, he had us ranked 12thish out of nowhere. He had some decliners still ranked, such as that pitcher we got in the Edwin Jackson trade. That ranking lasted about 1 season. Hopefully, this one has more staying power, and I think it will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 Quote 10. Chicago White Sox Not to denigrate Chicago at all, as this is about as good as their system has ever looked — I believe five guys on my top 100 this year is tied for the most the White Sox have ever placed — but I think in a typical year, this is more a median farm system than a top 10 one. They did extremely well in last summer’s trade binge, they’ve hit on a couple of recent high drafts, and we’ve seen guys develop in that system to a degree that we hadn’t seen in some time. It also should give Sox fans hope that some of the high-upside guys who haven’t performed that well yet, like the just-acquired Jake Eder, might make good on their abilities with better performances. I doubt they’ll do it, but trading Luis Robert while he still has time left on his contract could push them into the top five. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 Not shocked at all. I thoguht they should be higher than the middle-late teens I've been seeing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy U Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 I would love to see someone start ranking on process rather than actual prospects. I like the Sox top 5 in some order -- Montgomery, Schultz, Quero, Ramos, Nastrini -- but the ceiling and probability both drop off a cliff after that. I'd start to feel more comfortable if Mike Shirley is given a free hand to grab high-ceiling high school guys in the early rounds (I'm hopeful) and the Sox change their LatAm strategy to start pulling in the younger, higher-priced teens. Right now, the improvements in their system seem like a mirage based on one great late first-rounder and trades. I'd just like to see the Sox develop an actual pipeline where every year they're adding multiple future major leaguers instead of 2nd rounders who end up as org players and international signing like Yolbert Sanchez. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 Law's write-up of Sox prospects is out. I could post his top 20, but I don't know if that's appropriate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 32 minutes ago, GreenSox said: Law's write-up of Sox prospects is out. I could post his top 20, but I don't know if that's appropriate. Top 20 + snippets from a few write-ups is fine. We just don't want people dumping an entire article. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 Interesting bit on Colson: Quote The consensus on his defense has shifted for the better, and it’s probably about even money that he stays there in the eyes of the industry, with good reads and soft hands along with plenty of arm for that side of the dirt. I’m betting that the version of Montgomery we saw last year, including the tight, slow look in the Arizona Fall League, is the result of rust and continued recovery. Gonzalez: Quote I’m not here to bury the guy, and I think he still offers a soft everyday upside, but I understand fans’ frustration given who else was on the board at that pick — including eight players on my top-100 list right now. Fletcher: Quote He’s never hit left-handed pitching enough to play every day but has a long history of production against right-handers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 1. Montgomery 2. Quero 3. Ramos 4. Nastrini 5. Schultz 6. Eder 7. Gonzalez 8. McDougal 9. Cannon 10. Taylor 11. Leasure 12. Wolkow 13. Berroa 14. Keener 15. Rodriguez 16. Hernandez 17. Pallette 18. Oppor 19. Veras 20. Fletcher Others: Deloach, Tatum, Bush, Ellard, Shewmake, Turner, Burke, Lacombe He says that the system is the best it’s been in 15 years. And we know it’s ranked #10. But to me that’s still seems a little odd with his comments on our #7 Gonzalez (soft regular upside; 8 current top 100 players were available at that time in the draft); and Fletcher #20 (certainly Mena would have been top 10, so he can’t have liked that trade). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 https://theathletic.com/5257706/2024/02/13/white-sox-2024-top-prospects-keith-law/?source=user_shared_article Colson Montgomery SS (22) Everyday SS / 3B with 4-5 WAR upside. Edgar Quero C (21) .350 OPS starting catcher. Bryan Ramos 3B (22) Might be 30 HR occasional All Star. Nick Nastrini RHP (24) SP4 + Noah Schultz LHP (20) Tons of risk, SP1 / Top RP Upside Jake Eder LHP (25) Starter potential, probability waning. Jacob Gonzalez SS (22) Never had so many pro scouts with a negative opinion on a 1st rounder. Tanner McDougal RHP (21) 2024 will provide better sense of potential. Jonathan Cannon RHP (23) Probably a RP, understand urge to start him. Grant Taylor RHP (22) I like the upside play here. Jordan Leasure RHP (25) Best pure stuff in system. Needs control. George Wolkow OF (18) Huge power, tons of swing and miss. Prelander Berroa RHP (24) Definitely a big leaguer. Seth Keener RHP (22) Doesn’t know if he can hold up over bigger workload. Jose Rodriguez INF (23) MLB Utility Infielder. Ronny Hernandez C (19) 3-4 years away, could be a valuable starter. Peyton Pallette RHP (23) Hoping for more, 2024 will tell the tale. Christian Oppor LHP (19) Raw, nice arm, assume reliever. Wilfred Veras OF (21) Has to tighten up swing decisions. Dominic Fletcher OF (26) Platoon reserve OF. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 38 minutes ago, South Side Hit Men said: Jacob Gonzalez SS (22) Never had so many pro scouts with a negative opinion on a 1st rounder. WOOF 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donny Lucy's Avocado Farm Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 On 2/9/2024 at 10:18 AM, DirtySox said: but trading Luis Robert while he still has time left on his contract could push them into the top five. I hope JR doesn't have an Athletic sub 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 19 hours ago, GreenSox said: 1. Montgomery 2. Quero 3. Ramos 4. Nastrini 5. Schultz 6. Eder 7. Gonzalez 8. McDougal 9. Cannon 10. Taylor 11. Leasure 12. Wolkow 13. Berroa 14. Keener 15. Rodriguez 16. Hernandez 17. Pallette 18. Oppor 19. Veras 20. Fletcher Others: Deloach, Tatum, Bush, Ellard, Shewmake, Turner, Burke, Lacombe He says that the system is the best it’s been in 15 years. And we know it’s ranked #10. But to me that’s still seems a little odd with his comments on our #7 Gonzalez (soft regular upside; 8 current top 100 players were available at that time in the draft); and Fletcher #20 (certainly Mena would have been top 10, so he can’t have liked that trade). So he's saying the 2018-19 classes with Moncada Giolito (might have lost eligibility) Lopez Dunning Cease Jimenez Kopech would be ranked behind the current group with most of the focus on Montgomery Schultz? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 1 hour ago, caulfield12 said: So he's saying the 2018-19 classes with Moncada Giolito (might have lost eligibility) Lopez Dunning Cease Jimenez Kopech would be ranked behind the current group with most of the focus on Montgomery Schultz? Yes, I think that the #10 ranking is incongruent with his analysis. But, the best I can glean is that he thinks that there's more depth in the system. He does have positive things to say about the prospects ranked in the teens and 20s. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishPrince34 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 (edited) https://soxmachine.com/2024/02/podcast-how-the-white-sox-farm-system-is-improving-with-keith-law/ Great listen! Not surprising, how much Williams was involved in the draft room and going the conservative route. Looks like a great parting gift from Kenny with drafting Gonzalez. So glad that idiot is gone! Edited February 16 by PolishPrince34 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 That's not true. Kenny was not the one who pushed to draft Gonzalez. I mean come on. Kenny was conservative? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 One quibble with Mr Law. His favorite book "Jonathan Strange...." was unreadable. I threw in the towel at 100 pages. I have enjoyed other of his book recommendations. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 13 hours ago, GreenSox said: One quibble with Mr Law. His favorite book "Jonathan Strange...." was unreadable. I threw in the towel at 100 pages. I have enjoyed other of his book recommendations. One of my favorite books of all time. Her other novel Piranesi was just as good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 8 minutes ago, bmags said: One of my favorite books of all time. Her other novel Piranesi was just as good. I never read Harry Potter. Perhaps that's a primer to full appreciation of talking gargoyles and angels dancing on the heads of pins. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 Just lol if you think Keith Law doesn't hate the White Sox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 I liked Law when he was with ESPN. Very knowledgeable. I still remember his immediate reaction when the Sox traded Tatis in the bungled Shields trade. He was right on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 11 hours ago, ron883 said: Just lol if you think Keith Law doesn't hate the White Sox He really likes Chris Getz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 The fact we drafted Gonzalez is really depressing to me. Hopefully anyone involved with that decision no longer works in the organization. Complete waste of a pick 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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