hogan873 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 https://x.com/chuckgarfien/status/1768308350025142420?s=46&t=CmXau5C6XZLEE5q5OJlG4A About time. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 So who takes the spot in the rotation? Lorenzen or someone else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 In a middle relief role or do you make him a long-reliever? Touki has been terrible and shouldn't be guaranteed a spot whereas Banks could also be your long-reliever. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 1 minute ago, WhiteSox2023 said: So who takes the spot in the rotation? Lorenzen or someone else? Roster Resource, after this news, has the rotation as: Fedde, Soroka, Flexen, Crochet (I highly doubt he makes the OD rotation), and Nastrini. You figure maybe one of the MiLB deal guys could make it or Lorenzen like you said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Deep Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Make him the closer and see how it goes. This season will blow anyway 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 No reason for this given the chances of contention 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 So many other people have gotten grief, but this guy has never been able to get out of his own way, all of the way back to breaking his hand punching a teammate. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 I'm surprised they didn't give him a chance to start in April, but hell why not, he's not showing anything positive in the spring either and that might as well count for something. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuban_sammiches Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 7 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: In a middle relief role or do you make him a long-reliever? Touki has been terrible and shouldn't be guaranteed a spot whereas Banks could also be your long-reliever. Yeah, the couple times I watched Touki pitch in ST he has gotten clobbered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 2 minutes ago, cuban_sammiches said: Yeah, the couple times I watched Touki pitch in ST he has gotten clobbered. Yeah, guy is easily cut-able if you need 40-man space. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuban_sammiches Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 7 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: So many other people have gotten grief, but this guy has never been able to get out of his own way, all of the way back to breaking his hand punching a teammate. I agree. Kopech's biggest problem has always been Michael Kopech. He seems to be emotionally fragile. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted March 14 Author Share Posted March 14 4 minutes ago, cuban_sammiches said: Yeah, the couple times I watched Touki pitch in ST he has gotten clobbered. He's a shadow of the guy he was last season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOFHurt35 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 13 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: So who takes the spot in the rotation? Lorenzen or someone else? Titanic deck chairs 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted March 14 Author Share Posted March 14 It has been so frustrating watching Kopech pitch. He seems to be in his head from the first pitch. As someone else mentioned, Kopech's biggest issue has been himself. I'm hoping going to the bullpen helps. Maybe less pressure will be better...but I'm not optimistic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleAleSox Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Good. The hope would be that he shows something again as a bullpen arm and then move him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Given how bad he's looked it's not surprising. Let him try closer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBooneLoganEra Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 18 minutes ago, fathom said: No reason for this given the chances of contention No but the kid can't get out of the second inning. Put him in his most successful position hes had from the last few seasons and see if he can regain confidence. It seems they're trying to promote competition in camp so rewarding someone who is struggling would counter that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 I would like to go back in time to pre-2023 and tell people here at Soxtalk that the only pitcher in the 2023 White Sox rotation who will make a start for them in 2024 is likely to be Touki Toussaint. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Perhaps "let's trust Bannister" is no longer a good reason to justify stuff like the Mena trade or the guys they got from SD. One of his key jobs was to save Kopech and he already failed. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 1 minute ago, Balta1701 said: I would like to go back in time to pre-2023 and tell people here at Soxtalk that the only pitcher in the 2023 White Sox rotation who will make a start for them in 2024 is likely to be Touki Toussaint. Not so fast my friend 1 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Just now, fathom said: Not so fast my friend God why 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Just now, fathom said: Not so fast my friend Oh great. Bring back a complete asshole while you're going to be terrible again. Lots of fun! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Hombre Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 From the hype he got coming up through the minors and the way he looked his first start vs the Twins, to this. Really encapsulates the failed White Sox rebuild 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 3 minutes ago, SoCalChiSox said: Perhaps "let's trust Bannister" is no longer a good reason to justify stuff like the Mena trade or the guys they got from SD. One of his key jobs was to save Kopech and he already failed. Nothing cracks me up more on sox talk than the amount of credit/belief given to coaches for established players development or lack there of. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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