White Sox sign RHP Seranthony Domínguez, 2/20M

[Chicago White Sox]

14 minutes ago, Tony said:

Change and success are two different things. Getz and Co. haven't had enough runway to see if those changes will pay off yet, and I'm not saying it's going to be an automatic failure or nothing Getz does can be good. But you, and I, don't know how much has been "poured" into player development. There have been a handful of PR stories about the importance of player development to this regime, and that's a good thing. But how much was spent? Are those investments just getting them on par with other teams that have been doing it for the last 10+ years? 

It's good to be hopeful as a fan. Not trying to deny anyone that. But it's been 20 years since 2005 and they've won the AL Central twice since then. And Jerry has been involved every step of the way. And he still is. So color me skeptical. Don't feel like it's a terribly difficult stance to understand. 

 

I mean, we know a ton of changes they have actually made.  I agree we don’t the level of impact they will have, but even getting within the stratosphere of the rest of the league is a massive first step and there is plenty of reason to believe Getz has or is on track to doing that.  Ultimately, it’s ok to acknowledge Getz has made legit structural improvements to the org without saying he’s fixed everything.

[Look at Ray Ray Run]

12 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

And you don't need to be a blind sheep and always pretend that outcomes below the lowest projected are going to happen because reasons. 

Where/when have I ever done that? 

[Soxfest]

Needed a guy in back end of pen 

[Tony]

23 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

I mean, we know a ton of changes they have actually made.  I agree we don’t the level of impact they will have, but even getting within the stratosphere of the rest of the league is a massive first step and there is plenty of reason to believe Getz has or is on track to doing that.  Ultimately, it’s ok to acknowledge Getz has made legit structural improvements to the org without saying he’s fixed everything.

To quote Tom Waddle “My kids don’t get extra credit for not doing drugs.”

And staying on the Bears theme…a few weeks ago when the Bears were playing the 49ers, Darnell Wright was sick and looked like he may miss the game. On Saturday, he was feeling better and the Bears flew him to San Fransisco on a jet with a member of the training staff. 10 years ago, Darnell Wright is probably flying commercial because that’s not the way the Bears did business. My point is while I’m happy to see them keeping up with the times, I’m not rushing to give the Bears extra credit for something good organizations have been doing for a long time. 

[southsider2k5]

29 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

And you don't need to be a blind sheep and always pretend that outcomes above the highest projected are going to happen because reasons. 

 

[poppysox]

6 minutes ago, Soxfest said:

Needed a guy in back end of pen 

Check.

[Lukakke Appling]

15 minutes ago, Tony said:

To quote Tom Waddle “My kids don’t get extra credit for not doing drugs.”

And staying on the Bears theme…a few weeks ago when the Bears were playing the 49ers, Darnell Wright was sick and looked like he may miss the game. On Saturday, he was feeling better and the Bears flew him to San Fransisco on a jet with a member of the training staff. 10 years ago, Darnell Wright is probably flying commercial because that’s not the way the Bears did business. My point is while I’m happy to see them keeping up with the times, I’m not rushing to give the Bears extra credit for something good organizations have been doing for a long time. 

I understand and agree with what you say here, but I do think some credit should be given for actually following through with bringing the Sox into the 21st century. It probably would have been pretty easy to stick with the status quo and ride out that sweet, sweet Reinsdorf job security. 

[WestEddy]

37 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

Where/when have I ever done that? 

Tell us what entity is projecting the Sox for under 63 wins after the off-season has substantially played out. 

[Look at Ray Ray Run]

1 minute ago, WestEddy said:

Tell us what entity is projecting the Sox for under 63 wins after the off-season has substantially played out. 

Win totals have not been released anywhere. Their projected WAR is bottom 3. 

Id say remind me in 1 month when win total o/u's are released, but youll just pretend it never happened. 

[WestEddy]

6 minutes ago, Lukakke Appling said:

I understand and agree with what you say here, but I do think some credit should be given for actually following through with bringing the Sox into the 21st century. It probably would have been pretty easy to stick with the status quo and ride out that sweet, sweet Reinsdorf job security. 

A sports franchise isn't a child who needs encouragement to stay on the straight and narrow. We're a bunch of dopes sitting around and talking about the off-season. If somebody asks, "What has this team done to improve itself?", and the answer is a list of things they've actually done to improve themselves, the fact that somebody else has also done them doesn't negate that list.

 

[chitownsportsfan]

I've started to think this about certain beefs here:

Spoiler

 

[WestEddy]

3 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

Win totals have not been released anywhere. Their projected WAR is bottom 3. 

Id say remind me in 1 month when win total o/u's are released, but youll just pretend it never happened. 

I looked on Fangraphs, and don't see any team summaries beyond ZIPS, and those don't have any of the additions. Betting lines are used to entice betting, not log in actual projections. 

But if win totals haven't been released, then who is projecting the Sox to lose 100 games again? Are you referring to the people that argued the 2025 team would lose more games than the 2024?

[WestEddy]

Getz had talked about trades and free agency in the wake of the Robert transaction. He seemed excited about it, as if things were advanced, waiting for Robert's money to move. I now wonder if a trade of Lee/Sosa/Mead/Quero/Cannon or any combination, thereof, is in the offing. I also wonder if they might hold the announcement of this or these moves until training camp opens in 3 weeks, and they could just put a pitcher on the 60-day IL instead of cutting someone. 

[Ozzie for Manager]

It's been a long time since I felt we could hold a 1 or 2 run lead heading to the 8th. Maybe this is the year.  If or starters are decent we could have an ok year

[Chicago White Sox]

46 minutes ago, Tony said:

To quote Tom Waddle “My kids don’t get extra credit for not doing drugs.”

And staying on the Bears theme…a few weeks ago when the Bears were playing the 49ers, Darnell Wright was sick and looked like he may miss the game. On Saturday, he was feeling better and the Bears flew him to San Fransisco on a jet with a member of the training staff. 10 years ago, Darnell Wright is probably flying commercial because that’s not the way the Bears did business. My point is while I’m happy to see them keeping up with the times, I’m not rushing to give the Bears extra credit for something good organizations have been doing for a long time. 

Equating “don’t do doing drugs” to executing massive modernization changes to a highly complex billion dollar sports org is one of the largest leaps I have seen in my 25+ years on this site.  Not much else for me to say here.