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5 minutes ago, Texsox said:

That's a great question and it seems impossible to define in advance. Instead the owner has placed the decision in the lap of the mod team based on over a decade of experience making these decisions. 

We have missed the mark before and will probably make a mistake again. In this we felt it's a 24 year old kid going through a professional nightmare and speculation seems cruel. 

 

I appreciate this explanation, thank you. I disagree but I’ll respect it. We’re in polar world right now, it hit a hot button to suggest Kopech is somehow off limits, regardless of the situation. 

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24 minutes ago, SkokieSox said:

Signed up in 2004, but besides the matter. 
 

Can we all agree that it is offensive and anti Semitic to call Jerry Reinsdorf cheap then? 

Good lord. Is the only exercise you get jumping to conclusions?  Or catching hurt feelings?

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2 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

Yes. We do observe minimal standards of common decency here. If that is too heavy of a lift please feel free to investigate other White Sox social media. 

Ironically, it seems the conversation was too heavy for the mods

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4 minutes ago, SkokieSox said:

Your opinion, but that’s what the forum is for, differing opinions. Shutting them down because of your sensitivity seems wrong to me. 

Actually it is for baseball, not for crapping on kids and their relationships. 

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6 minutes ago, SkokieSox said:

Your opinion, but that’s what the forum is for, differing opinions. Shutting them down because of your sensitivity seems wrong to me. 

Well, you just accused probably tens of thousands of Sox fans of antisemitism just to make an entirely unrelated point. I'm all for open dialogue, but that seems like a jack ass move to me, particularly considering the topic at hand. Who gives a shit about anyone's baseless opinion on who someone may or may not have had sex with in the first place? 

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Just now, Vulture said:

Well, you just accused probably tens of thousands of Sox fans of antisemitism just to make a point. I'm all for open dialogue, but that seems like a jack ass move to me, particularly considering the topic at hand. Who gives a shit about anyone's baseless opinion on who someone may or may not have had sex with in the first placd?

There it is. The need to get satisfaction at the expense of a stranger and his problems should be embarrassing. 

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1 minute ago, Vulture said:

Well, you just accused probably tens of thousands of Sox fans of antisemitism just to make a point. I'm all for open dialogue, but that seems like a jack ass move to me, particularly considering the topic at hand. Who gives a shit about anyone's baseless opinion on who someone may or may not have had sex with in the first placd?

It was formulated as a question, never made an accusation. It matters to some because people want to understand Kopech’s decision that impacted the team. No one is saying it was the wrong decision, but shutting down the conversation as to the details potentially leading to the decision is shortsighted. 

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28 minutes ago, SkokieSox said:

Signed up in 2004, but besides the matter. 
 

Can we all agree that it is offensive and anti Semitic to call Jerry Reinsdorf cheap then? 

Agreed!

Penny-pincher, miser, cheapskate, and money-grubber are still fair game though.

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2 minutes ago, SkokieSox said:

It was formulated as a question, never made an accusation. It matters to some because people want to understand Kopech’s decision that impacted the team. No one is saying it was the wrong decision, but shutting down the conversation as to the details potentially leading to the decision is shortsighted. 

You asked if we can all agree, that implies you already agree. Whatever, though, no big deal. Just saying, you didn't have to go there to make your point.

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Just now, SleepyWhiteSox said:

Agreed!

Penny-pincher, miser, cheapskate, and money-grubber are still fair game though.

lol, touché 

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Just now, Vulture said:

You asked if we can all agree, that implies you already agree. Whatever, though, no big deal. Just saying, you didn't have to go there to make your point.

Fair enough, and we all could have continued discussing Kopech uninterrupted as well

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Social media, TMZ, college recruiting sites that incessantly dig into personal lives, families, relationships...it’s really going to be the downfall of this generation if we can’t discover more positive outlets for our energy and attention.

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35 minutes ago, SkokieSox said:

Signed up in 2004, but besides the matter. 
 

Can we all agree that it is offensive and anti Semitic to call Jerry Reinsdorf cheap then? 

You know, considering my relative was good friends with Reinsdorf due to their involvement AEPi, I feel like I can speak with authority on this.

No, it's not.

Now if people were saying he was being "miserly", "Jewy, etc., or used certain imagery, yeah, that's anti-Semitic. Saying he's cheap due to not wanting to spend big on free agents, draft picks, etc. is not. 

He has spent on the Sox in recent years (especially on amateur talent), so the mantra is weak and may be rooted in fan ignorance and lack of wanting to do research about spending habits (likely) or rooted in anti-Semitism (unlikely, because I'm gonna guess most fans don't know he's Jewish, because most people aren't that attentive).

So, don't use our people as a shield because we're not allowing you to speculate about the personal life about a young man during a difficult point in his life.

This where my piece ends on the matter.

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6 minutes ago, SkokieSox said:

It was formulated as a question, never made an accusation. It matters to some because people want to understand Kopech’s decision that impacted the team. No one is saying it was the wrong decision, but shutting down the conversation as to the details potentially leading to the decision is shortsighted. 

This is ridiculous.  There is no reason to know any of the details of this to understand that it was a personal matter. The rest is just voyageurism.

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4 minutes ago, SkokieSox said:

It was formulated as a question, never made an accusation. It matters to some because people want to understand Kopech’s decision that impacted the team. No one is saying it was the wrong decision, but shutting down the conversation as to the details potentially leading to the decision is shortsighted. 

What would you or the board gain from knowing the intimate details of his personal matter that caused him to opt out though?  I mean, you may be a love guru that can mend their relationship and magically coax him to return for all I know...

 

In light of today, he is probably one of the smarter ones to not have opted in for this season which has seemingly no chance of actually happening in it's entirety.  What's the over/under now?  2 weeks?

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1 minute ago, SleepyWhiteSox said:

What would you or the board gain from knowing the intimate details of his personal matter that caused him to opt out though?  I mean, you may be a love guru that can mend their relationship and magically coax him to return for all I know...

 

In light of today, he is probably one of the smarter ones to not have opted in for this season which has seemingly no chance of actually happening in it's entirety.  What's the over/under now?  2 weeks?

I actually could careless about what happened to him or why he’s not pitching. I wish him well and hope he battles in the Sox rotation next year and years to come. I’m just tired of shutting down conversations because someone didn’t like it or got their feelings hurt. 

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8 minutes ago, SkokieSox said:

I actually could careless about what happened to him or why he’s not pitching. I wish him well and hope he battles in the Sox rotation next year and years to come. I’m just tired of shutting down conversations because someone didn’t like it or got their feelings hurt. 

Then quit your complaining,  get off Soxtalk and create your own message board. Go nuts. Pull yourself up by your bootstraps and quit expecting someone else to do it for you.

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27 minutes ago, SkokieSox said:

I appreciate this explanation, thank you. I disagree but I’ll respect it. We’re in polar world right now, it hit a hot button to suggest Kopech is somehow off limits, regardless of the situation. 

Not regardless of the situation but I understand your point.

We've generally avoided speculation in the private lives of players through the years. It's telling that many of the mods have been doing this for over 15 years. We've gone through personal births and deaths, marriages and divorces, and it probably weighs on our decisions. We're not the young, brash, upstart board like we were at the turn of the century.

The fact that we have outlasted other Sox boards and remain relevant is something we all should be proud of. 

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4 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

Then quit your complaining,  get off Soxtalk and create your own message board. Go nuts. Pull yourself up by your bootstraps and quit expecting someone else to do it for you.

 Nah, I like it here. Just want to protect free speech as it pertains to white sox baseball and the decisions of players that effect the team. 

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speaking of kopech how well hi piching will be after his tommy john since well ohtani pitch like crap the other day

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1 hour ago, fathom said:

You’re just mad Mercedes isn’t the father. Might be the only time he would have scored this year.

Why are we still bickering with this gem of a post here? All hail fathom!

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Just now, SkokieSox said:

 Nah, I like it here. Just want to protect free speech as it pertains to white sox baseball and the decisions of players that effect the team. 

I didn't think you would be willing to do the work.

Also do some work on what freedom of speech actually is and where it applies. 

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1 minute ago, Texsox said:

Not regardless of the situation but I understand your point.

We've generally avoided speculation in the private lives of players through the years. It's telling that many of the mods have been doing this for over 15 years. We've gone through personal births and deaths, marriages and divorces, and it probably weighs on our decisions. We're not the young, brash, upstart board like we were at the turn of the century.

The fact that we have outlasted other Sox boards and remain relevant is something we all should be proud of. 

Hopefully you’re the head mod. Go Sox!

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1 minute ago, southsider2k5 said:

I didn't think you would be willing to do the work.

Also do some work on what freedom of speech actually is and where it applies. 

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