bmags 4,591 Report post Posted November 17 firesale? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dick Allen 3,048 Report post Posted November 17 If he wasn't going to stay being 2021, it makes no sense for him to be here now with the decisions they must make. Bye Theo. The Cubs are starting to turn back into the Cubs. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YourWhatHurts 166 Report post Posted November 17 (edited) Theo pulled a John Paxson like 10 years before Paxson pulled a Paxson. KW would never pull a Paxson, ever. Edited November 17 by YourWhatHurts Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buehrle>Wood 559 Report post Posted November 17 Mets? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bmags 4,591 Report post Posted November 17 2 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: If he wasn't going to stay being 2021, it makes no sense for him to be here now with the decisions they must make. Bye Theo. The Cubs are starting to turn back into the Cubs. Yeah. I was getting confused by the idea that the cubs were going to make a huge shake-up when it was known Theo would leave after this year. Why put him in charge of that? This makes more sense, but definitely to me says that they are going to re-load. I'd bet ricketts are not in place to take on huge losses for a more ...sedated fanbase. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bmags 4,591 Report post Posted November 17 1 minute ago, Buehrle>Wood said: Mets? good call. The other weird one I could see is rangers ending ties with Jon Daniels and going Theo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YourWhatHurts 166 Report post Posted November 17 2 minutes ago, bmags said: Yeah. I was getting confused by the idea that the cubs were going to make a huge shake-up when it was known Theo would leave after this year. Why put him in charge of that? This makes more sense, but definitely to me says that they are going to re-load. I'd bet ricketts are not in place to take on huge losses for a more ...sedated fanbase. I think that their FO (minus ownership probably) genuinely is all on the same page. They probably wouldn't have issues whether Theo stays or goes. But the move by Theo is move of respect for Hoyer and whoever moves up into the GM role. Also it probably keeps that McLeod guy there in a GM role by moving him up. Theo may have wanted to save the organization from being pillaged of a quality executive, in his mind. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rowand44 542 Report post Posted November 17 Prolly coming to the South Side after Rick steps down. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dick Allen 3,048 Report post Posted November 17 2 minutes ago, bmags said: Yeah. I was getting confused by the idea that the cubs were going to make a huge shake-up when it was known Theo would leave after this year. Why put him in charge of that? This makes more sense, but definitely to me says that they are going to re-load. I'd bet ricketts are not in place to take on huge losses for a more ...sedated fanbase. That's what I was thinking. Theo needs an open checkbook. I am thinking the Cubs are going the other way. Ricketts bought up the neighborhood, and couldn't get the cash registers to light up this year. He's probably really hurting, and it probably will take years to get out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aeichhor 228 Report post Posted November 17 11 minutes ago, Buehrle>Wood said: Mets? He's taking a year off supposedly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
knightni 201 Report post Posted November 17 Never forget the insider trading done by Epstein to get Rizzo. Traded him to San Diego from Boston, then got Hoyer, then SDs GM, to trade him to Chicago, then hired Hoyer. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dick Allen 3,048 Report post Posted November 17 I bet he winds up with the Phillies, although he supposedly is taking a year off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YourWhatHurts 166 Report post Posted November 17 1 minute ago, knightni said: Never forget the insider trading done by Epstein to get Rizzo. Traded him to San Diego from Boston, then got Hoyer, then SDs GM, to trade him to Chicago, then hired Hoyer. They also go Cashner in that deal. Cashner wasn't exactly a shitty young player and became a pretty good SP who underachieved. And at the time Rizzo looked like he could go the bust route. The realy screwjob there IMO for the Pads was Casey Kelly never turning into anything. There was another player too I think an IF or OF that was supposedly be so great, and he never turned into anything either. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kyyle23 2,185 Report post Posted November 17 Lol fans were like THE DYNASTY BEGINS in 2016 and now they are like Well the stadium and hotel are nice 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kyyle23 2,185 Report post Posted November 17 10 minutes ago, YourWhatHurts said: They also go Cashner in that deal. Cashner wasn't exactly a shitty young player and became a pretty good SP who underachieved. And at the time Rizzo looked like he could go the bust route. The realy screwjob there IMO for the Pads was Casey Kelly never turning into anything. There was another player too I think an IF or OF that was supposedly be so great, and he never turned into anything either. "On January 6, 2012, the Chicago Cubs traded Andrew Cashner and Kyung-Min Na to the San Diego Padres in exchange for Zach Cates and Anthony Rizzo." 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
southsider2k5 4,868 Report post Posted November 17 The big question is could someone like Kenny and/or Rick be looking else where after Jerry screwed them on the TLR pooch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Y2Jimmy0 1,367 Report post Posted November 17 21 minutes ago, knightni said: Never forget the insider trading done by Epstein to get Rizzo. Traded him to San Diego from Boston, then got Hoyer, then SDs GM, to trade him to Chicago, then hired Hoyer. This didn't happen. Hoyer was already in Chicago by then. San Diego had Josh Byrnes I believe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saufley 193 Report post Posted November 17 40 minutes ago, bmags said: firesale? So much for the dynasty. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
35thstreetswarm 339 Report post Posted November 17 Man, to think they were one rain delay speech away from getting no championships at all -- what a story that would have been. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SouthWallace 1,386 Report post Posted November 17 Not at all surprised. They look headed to a tear down or full rebuild, and I see no way Theo goes through it again w/o his ability to overpay on draft and INT bonuses. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
35thstreetswarm 339 Report post Posted November 17 I really thought there would be a few years where the teams' windows overlapped, which would've been fun. Looks like that's not to be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EloyJenkins 669 Report post Posted November 17 Worst. Dynasty. Ever. In all seriousness, Eat it Cubs Fans. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Harry Chappas 251 Report post Posted November 17 The trades that won the world series and then to try and keep them afloat killed them with the bad free agent signings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chicago White Sox 4,960 Report post Posted November 17 52 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: The big question is could someone like Kenny and/or Rick be looking else where after Jerry screwed them on the TLR pooch. I think KW is past the daily grind and I doubt Hahn is looking to work under Hoyer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EloyJenkins 669 Report post Posted November 17 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: I think KW is past the daily grind and I doubt Hahn is looking to work under Hoyer. yeah, Hahn is looking for president role next, not GM for another team. Edited November 17 by EloyJenkins 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
