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If he wasn't going to stay being 2021, it makes no sense for him to be here now with the decisions they must make. Bye Theo. The Cubs are starting to turn back into the Cubs.

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2 minutes ago, Dick Allen said:

If he wasn't going to stay being 2021, it makes no sense for him to be here now with the decisions they must make. Bye Theo. The Cubs are starting to turn back into the Cubs.

Yeah. I was getting confused by the idea that the cubs were going to make a huge shake-up when it was known Theo would leave after this year. Why put him in charge of that?

This makes more sense, but definitely to me says that they are going to re-load. I'd bet ricketts are not in place to take on huge losses for a more ...sedated fanbase.

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1 minute ago, Buehrle>Wood said:

Mets?

good call. The other weird one I could see is rangers ending ties with Jon Daniels and going Theo.

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2 minutes ago, bmags said:

Yeah. I was getting confused by the idea that the cubs were going to make a huge shake-up when it was known Theo would leave after this year. Why put him in charge of that?

This makes more sense, but definitely to me says that they are going to re-load. I'd bet ricketts are not in place to take on huge losses for a more ...sedated fanbase.

I think that their FO (minus ownership probably) genuinely is all on the same page.  They probably wouldn't have issues whether Theo stays or goes.  But the move by Theo is move of respect for Hoyer and whoever moves up into the GM role.

Also it probably keeps that McLeod guy there in a GM role by moving him up.  Theo may have wanted to save the organization from being pillaged of a quality executive, in his mind.

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2 minutes ago, bmags said:

Yeah. I was getting confused by the idea that the cubs were going to make a huge shake-up when it was known Theo would leave after this year. Why put him in charge of that?

This makes more sense, but definitely to me says that they are going to re-load. I'd bet ricketts are not in place to take on huge losses for a more ...sedated fanbase.

That's what I was thinking. Theo needs an open checkbook. I am thinking the Cubs are going the other way. Ricketts bought up the neighborhood, and couldn't get the cash registers to light up this year. He's probably really hurting, and it probably will take years to get out. 

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Never forget the insider trading done by Epstein to get Rizzo.

Traded him to San Diego from Boston, then got Hoyer, then SDs GM,  to trade him to Chicago, then hired Hoyer.

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1 minute ago, knightni said:

Never forget the insider trading done by Epstein to get Rizzo.

Traded him to San Diego from Boston, then got Hoyer, then SDs GM,  to trade him to Chicago, then hired Hoyer.

They also go Cashner in that deal.  Cashner wasn't exactly a shitty young player and became a pretty good SP who underachieved.  And at the time Rizzo looked like he could go the bust route.  The realy screwjob there IMO for the Pads was Casey Kelly never turning into anything.  There was another player too I think an IF or OF that was supposedly be so great, and he never turned into anything either.

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Lol fans were like THE DYNASTY BEGINS in 2016 and now they are like Well the stadium and hotel are nice

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10 minutes ago, YourWhatHurts said:

They also go Cashner in that deal.  Cashner wasn't exactly a shitty young player and became a pretty good SP who underachieved.  And at the time Rizzo looked like he could go the bust route.  The realy screwjob there IMO for the Pads was Casey Kelly never turning into anything.  There was another player too I think an IF or OF that was supposedly be so great, and he never turned into anything either.

"On January 6, 2012, the Chicago Cubs traded Andrew Cashner and Kyung-Min Na to the San Diego Padres in exchange for Zach Cates and Anthony Rizzo."

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The big question is could someone like Kenny and/or Rick be looking else where after Jerry screwed them on the TLR pooch.

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21 minutes ago, knightni said:

Never forget the insider trading done by Epstein to get Rizzo.

Traded him to San Diego from Boston, then got Hoyer, then SDs GM,  to trade him to Chicago, then hired Hoyer.

This didn't happen. Hoyer was already in Chicago by then. San Diego had Josh Byrnes I believe. 

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Not at all surprised.  They look headed to a tear down or full rebuild, and I see no way Theo goes through it again w/o his ability to overpay on draft and INT bonuses.

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52 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

The big question is could someone like Kenny and/or Rick be looking else where after Jerry screwed them on the TLR pooch.

I think KW is past the daily grind and I doubt Hahn is looking to work under Hoyer.

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4 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

I think KW is past the daily grind and I doubt Hahn is looking to work under Hoyer.

yeah, Hahn is looking for president role next, not GM for another team. 

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