Kyyle23 Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 Kosuke Fukudome 2.0 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 8 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: Kosuke Fukudome 2.0 Wasn’t he quite useful for them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kleedawg Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 4 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: Wasn’t he quite useful for them? not really 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 ah, but will he be better than the sheets/vaughn/engel platoon in right? Hahn doesnt think so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted March 16, 2022 Author Share Posted March 16, 2022 9 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: Wasn’t he quite useful for them? Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 9 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: Wasn’t he quite useful for them? I believe he averaged around a 1.0 WAR for them over 4 years. My guess is they would expect more out of Suzuki. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 That’s unfortunate. I hope he enjoys playing for a shitty team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 9 minutes ago, Tony said: I believe he averaged around a 1.0 WAR for them over 4 years. My guess is they would expect more out of Suzuki. Fair enough, blame my memory here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 Padres fans on reddit are straight up not having a good time right now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomPickle Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 32 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: Kosuke Fukudome 2.0 Suzuki is 4 years younger than Fukudome was when he signed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 Heyward must be available. Many of the GMs on this board who chided RH last year when he signed Eaton, wanted the Sox to get Heyward. He's even cheaper now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FriendlyNorthsider Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 My hope is that he’s closer to a young Hideki Matsui as opposed to Kosuke. This is the first thing I’ve been excited about Cub wise since we signed Yu Darvish. I’ve been following Japanese baseball avidly since Kosuke and have even been to two Japanese World Series. Conforto is probably a better player and the draft pick compensation isn’t a concern for a team in their window like the Sox. Conforto makes much more sense and I’m hoping the Sox get him and trade for Castillo 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 27 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: Fair enough, blame my memory here. His first three years with the Cubs, 5 fWAR over around 430ish games, roughly 1.9 per season…essentially 2. His original contract was 4/$48, so if you value FA fWAR at 1 unit being worth roughly $7.5-8.0 million, it was at least a fair deal for the Cubs until his final season there when age started to catch up with him. Melky Cabrera had a similar contract in terms of overall value and only ended up contributing around 2.3 fWAR total to the Sox after a 3.9, 4.5 and 3.1 along with one slightly negative year in the four preceding his Sox deal. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 I was pretty close! Obviously a ton of risk with a signing like this, but this is the safest Japanese hitter to come over since Matsui. Hard to hate the idea of taking a similar gamble that we took on Abreu. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 14 minutes ago, Eminor3rd said: I was pretty close! Obviously a ton of risk with a signing like this, but this is the safest Japanese hitter to come over since Matsui. Hard to hate the idea of taking a similar gamble that we took on Abreu. Maybe, call me crazy, having an example of a player who just doesn’t make fundamental mistakes (especially in the outfield) would have been a positive influence on his teammates. Madrigal was supposed to provide this, but it never materialized, as he probably turned off more of his teammates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 Exciting deal for Cubs. , 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 Just now, chitownsportsfan said: Exciting deal for Cubs. , Yep, I'd be very pleased with this deal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 Just got a MLB notice that says 5/$85M…is that true? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Just got a MLB notice that says 5/$85M…is that true? And with the posting fee, it will cost them $100M for 5 years. That's a helluva commitment from them. 🤷 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 https://blogs.fangraphs.com/projecting-seiya-suzuki/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBX Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 (edited) I never wanted him on the RH-heavy Sox, even assuming errantly that the FO was in that market. (Assuming 85 mil) I think in the end the contract is a slight overpay to spot on, but never a discount. His ZiPS numbers seem to fit the player I see. Ohtani is by far the most aesthetically MLB hitter to come out of Japan. Suzuki I think would need to kill it defensively and be particularly healthy, and then he'd be a great asset. 2 hours ago, Quin said: Padres fans on reddit are straight up not having a good time right now. Padres Reddit sounds like a bad milieu in general Edited March 16, 2022 by KBX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 49 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Just got a MLB notice that says 5/$85M…is that true? 45 minutes ago, ChiliIrishHammock24 said: And with the posting fee, it will cost them $100M for 5 years. That's a helluva commitment from them. 🤷 Ok that’s definitely a bit higher than 5/70. I guess I wasn’t all that close, haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EloyJenkins Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 5/100 is really too much for those projections...but the fan interest he brings from Japan on their cute network probably will more than cover the slight overpay. Hope he pans out for them, but also not comfortable with that commitment for Sox on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 6 minutes ago, KBX said: Padres Reddit sounds like a bad milieu in general I mean, after their season...they just missed Suzuki, have two albatrosses that they'll need to attach prospects to unload, and their franchise star broke his wrist (on top of a chronic shoulder injury) riding motorcycles and he doesn't seem to take it seriously. They make Soxtalk look like the Rick Hahn Fan Club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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