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I think Tilson may be ending Adam Engel’s Major League Baseball career ?

Well, you have to give Hahn credit. He's 3 for 3, on the Manny Machado "family and friends" signings; Castillo, Alonso and Jay. None of them have justified their acquisitions, or playing time. The only good thing that has come of it, is that we didn't get Manny, for that $350 million. That could have made it 4 for 4. Manny is not going to earn all of that money, at his current pace.

Our pitchers all look better when McCann catching. Wonder why!

Yup, / thread.

If you can draft Adley Rutschman, you draft Adley Rutschman.

https://www.danblewett.com/run-expectancy-bunting-bad/ Bunting never increases the odds of scoring, only lessens them. It can only be rationalize with a truly awful hitter at the plate like a pitcher. Have you noticed we almost never see other teams sac bunting when playing them. The rest of baseball is now aware of this and have stopped. Yet we have a manager who will bunt every time we get runners on in a late inning close game.

I'd rather see Tilson or even Cordell in CF and Garcia in one of the corner OF spots.

Sign him to a 7-year, $100 million dollar deal.

You’ll find A LOT of people who disliked the signing.

Yonder now sporting a .333 OPS in May. what on earth will it take for Ricky?

I'm sick of trades. We have very few quality players as it is. This ownership reminds me of the Three Stooges drilling holes in a sinking boat to let the incoming water out. Spend some friggin money on free agent difference-makers Keep Jose !!

My point is he certainly did have input and is part of the three headed decision making team. There is no blame when you are all in on the decision.

That’s true but an up the middle player, a catcher (maybe play some OF too) at that, a positive defender, who can switch hit, projects to be an 55+ hitter and have 55+ power is extremely valuable. I don’t think it’s crazy to project that Rutschman can hit around 20+ homers in a season regularly. A player like that is very valuable and rare.

Not one of them projects as everyday starter. By no means would any of them block Vaughn.

Feel free to express your opinion, just be prepared for it to be called out when it's incredibly lazy. @bmags has very rightfully called me out for saying I thought Trae Young would bomb in the NBA. Your comparison of Vaughn to Collins and Burger seems to be limited to "can get on base and has power." It also appears that you just took two names White Sox fans would know at random, hence why I picked Micah Johnson and Ozzie Guillen. Let's go with Collins first. A left-handed, true outcome catcher with defensive question marks, good size. In college, his walks and strikeouts were fairly even. Grades: Hit: 50 | Power: 55 | Run: 30 | Arm: 45 | Field: 40 | Overall: 55 Now, Vaughn. A right-handed, advanced hit tool, undersized first baseman who fields his position well. Walks far more than he strikes out. Has ungodly OBP. Hit: 60 | Power: 60 | Run: 30 | Arm: 50 | Field: 50 | Overall: 60 Similarities: Slow runners, raw power, can draw walks. Differences: Positions, handedness, fielding capabilities, hitting abilities, strikeout rates, level of raw power, OBP (Vaughn's is absurd). Let's add Burger in. A right-handed third baseman, was named Gold Glover in his final college season. Pre-injury had decent enough speed for his size. Grades: Hit: 50 | Power: 55 | Run: 50 | Arm: 55 | Field: 50 | Overall: 55 Similarities: Right-handed hitters, raw power, can field their position well Differences: Position, speed (at the time, unclear how Burger has recovered), power levels, OBP (again, Vaughn's is stupid good), hit tool. Well, Micah Johnson had an 80 run tool and was blindingly fast. He played middle infield for the Chicago White Sox. That's essentially the depth of the analysis we were provided with Jake Burger and Zack Collins for Andrew Vaughn. So then you went and threw out Fernando Tatis Jr. as a comp for Abrams, which makes no sense in his present state. I've looked at film. But let's also look at grades of all three aforementioned players. Tatis: Hit: 60 | Power: 60 | Run: 60 | Arm: 60 | Field: 55 | Overall: 70 Abrams: Hit: 55 | Power: 40 | Run: 75 | Arm: 55 | Field: 50 | Overall: 60 Johnson: Hit: 55 | Power: 35 | Run: 80 | Arm: 50 | Field: 50 | Overall: 50 So Tatis comes in with far more power, whereas Abrams calling card is speed, much like Johnson. Tatis is a true shortstop, while we've already seen discussion about how Abrams might not stick at short. That sounds more Johnson than Tatis. So we've got a speed burner that might not stick at his position. Edit: If I were drafting, I might take Abrams over Vaughn, but that's because the Sox are in dire need of some non-1B/DH talent in addition to a "next wave" of prospects and I'd stupidly draft for need.

From the standpoint of developing players who can / will be part of the contending years this has been a decent year. McCann, Tilson, Bummer & Marshall all look like possible contributers on those teams. When you find players from other than the highly touted group it gives a real infusion to the rebuild. Jimenez--Moncada--Anderson--Abreu--Madrigal--Robert--Cease--Kopech--Lopez--Giolito--Collins--McCann--Tilson are all looking as probable's. The whole lineup is already here. Need a couple of quality starters and a few relievers and we're good to go. 2020 it starts.

James McCann Can , Ivan Nova Can ,Tilson 2-4 2 RBI a SB. Some times this team looks decent. SS2K5 come back . Winner's threads aren't the same without you.

8 homers and same WAR as Yoan because Manny is phenomenal on defense. Too bad we couldn’t be getting Yoan’s offense from a 2nd baseman.

Last I looked that guy was hitting about .250 with 4 HR's. I'll take Moncada at third.

I said they would be contributors on contending teams. I doubt more than 2 or 3 won't fit that time table. Of course some of the more fringe guys might be packaged to get someone even more valuable.

killing it once again, love watching his ABs

Just saw the box score and watched the highlights. McCann loves that opposite field. Beautiful. Alonso is worthless in the shift era. Keep pulling the ball to second, Yonder. Glad to see a lot of guys do well. Nova has battled back after the game where it appeared he should be DFA. I guess Hahn deserves credit for McCann. I wish all hitters would have his current approach. You don't have to pull everything. Just think if Tilson can stay healthy. He should play every day during this tank season and see if he's a regular. He's off to a nice start. Would be neat if he and McCann hit all year.

Bryce Bush has an OPS over 1.000 since April 22. If he sustains anything like that for two more months, he's probably a top 10 prospect in the system for me. That also might be an indictment on how the 8-20 group has performed so far this season.

Routine grounder to SS he beat out due to infielder taking his time

I loved the McCann signing from the start. Always thought he had more offensive potential than what he showed in Detroit and I liked him behind the plate. My problem with Yonder wasn't the $9 mil, it was that you were helping a division rival take $9 mil of dead money off their books. Real head scratcher. Hopefully he sits plenty so the option doesn't kick in.

McCann needs to be playing every single day either at catcher or DH until he cools off. Meanwhile Alonzo is now down to .170...what a friggin' waste of nine million bucks. Amazing smarts there by Rick Hahn.

The Tigers didn’t offer him arbitration and let him become a free agent cuz he was so bad last year (.581 OPS in 457 plate appearances). He is the very definition of dumpster diving. 1-year and $2.5 million is chump change in the MLB. Bench player money.

Alot of ballparks would've done that. I will say I'm shocked the workers there did that. I thought Canadians were super nice...

Kicking that guy out of the game is a joke. Mr. Hardass Security Guard needs to chill out.

Abreu is just awful defensively... McCann just saved a headache there.

So lucky

We be winning

I had said to get him and got lit up....

UNLEASH THE TILSON!

Can’t complain about Nova today. Good to see him string two quality starts together in a row

Watching on game day....what in the ass was leury swinging at on the first 2 pitches?

Sox are about to move to 13-8 when James McCann starts at catcher. Their record is 4-13 when Castillo starts at catcher ?

There’s too many variables in the game for “absolutes” like this. A manager needs to weigh those variables and make a decision. Some managers are better at it than others.

“Because the Sox player development is bad” should disqualify all of these players then. The Sox have fucked up advanced college bats too. They’ve selected very little high school talent to say anything about it but I’ll say that just I’ve seen enough college bats not improve through higher competition while high school bats surpass them that I don’t care. You aren’t going to be able to hedge against the white Sox bad development in drafting.

Where can I find these stats? Are these sacrifice bunts to move runners along or guys bunting for hits? There is a difference. Sac bunts occur late in close games with guys on base. Even if the bunter is thrown out it is considered a success. Bunting for hits happens at anytime in a game and often when no one is on base. I don't have a problem with fast guys occasionally laying down a bunt to get on base. I don't like rally killing bunts in close late inning games.

I understand there are more that go in to their scouting grades than actual numbers, but they both play in the same conference and Rutschman's numbers are vastly better than Vaughn's, so what things are contributing to Vaughn being considered the far superior hitter? Just that it's assumed he's playing below his capabilities and Adley is playing above his own right now? Or the line-ups around each guy? Keith Law seems to think Vaughn is a way better hitter, but why?

Lets not corner the market on 1B / DH. We already have 3 or 4 high draft choice people who profile for this.

I’m surprised there isn’t more complaining about the 7th inning sac bunt while down 2 runs against a struggling pitcher. Could have been a different outcome if that hadn’t been called.

Can we DFA ricky Renteria?

They need to start sinking or swimming in that regard. Hostetler, Getz, etc. have long said the sox development process has changed (and they didn't "have the players" back then)... has it? well lets see it. Develop a high school kid who projects well into an mlb regular.

Where's the Preston Tucker appreciation thread?

I don't think this team has a chance of winning the World Series this year with Renteria as manager.

Jose is having a great year, no doubt. He still will have little trade value. People don't trade much for DHs. That's the bottom line. His stone hands at 1st don't help his value either.

The AL 1st base crop was laughably horrible last year. The worst in a long time. Jose lucked out.

FG updated their draft rankings for 2019, 2020, and 2021, though the last two are smaller updates. They also got a nifty new prospect-centric page at fangraphs.com/prospects https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/fall-equinox-draft-board-update/ https://www.fangraphs.com/prospects/the-board/2019-mlb-draft They have Rutschman as the lone 55 FV right now, but they have 11 other 50 FV guys right now. It seems like the two HS hitters they are highest on are CJ Abrams and Corbin Carroll. I said earlier I thought we would take Abrams, but I could see us taking Carroll because he has been good all summer but he is a little undersized.