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Maybe they’re freeing up a spot for Billy Hamilton

What about Billy Hamilton?

I want a girl to love me as much as you love Billy Hamilton.

Yea because he's an automatic out!

That’s what she said

No one is losing their mind. And how is the Sox inside beat writer legitimately naming Zack Wheeler in a Yolmer article not direct? "Zack Wheeler...The team would need an open spot for any sort of free-agent addition, and the right-handed starter is a player who the White Sox had interest in. Any deal with Wheeler would mark another major step in the White Sox push to contention in ’20 and beyond..." seems pretty direct to me.

Lol, that is amazingly direct. Pretty obvious this thing is in the works.

Merkin specifically calls out Zach Wheeler in his Yolmer Sanchez article: I don’t care what anyone says, something is fucking up...

I’m firmly back in the “no one knows nothin” camp.

I will say that Heyman was being used by agents and teams left and right last year. This could easily be to get the Sox to up their final offer

Wetbutt23 or bust.

But what if there is extra security ordered at GRF? For the record, I have total appreciation for anyone willing to share rumors they hear. Better than having to hear about Abreu’s tobacco use or Billy Hamilton.

Personally, I won't believe it until Peavy44 confirms it.

I mean, the MLB video says 1 of the 3 lol. Reading is a skill.

Are you stuck in a SAW trap that states if Abreu remains on the Sox past 2020 you'd meet your untimely demise?

Um...Luis Robert in CF?

I did think it was interesting that there were no comments by Hahn about Yolmer today

Shut-up Cooper, you of all people should be excited about this.

We said that last year when the Padres popped up in the Machado derby. If there are other teams getting involved in this the Sox have to be comfortable with being uncomfortable and give out deals that add some risk in terms of money or years. That is, If they're serious about this whole competing thing.

a friend of mine was in those facebook chats and was sending my screenshots with all kinds of LUL emojis. Peavy44 is a legend (of sorts)

Obviously a huge reach here, but random reddit user hinting we will sign Wheeler in the next 24 hours. Unfortunately this user doesn’t have a cool handle like KatyPerrysBootyHole, so likely not legitimate.

I think he’s terrible in today’s offensive environment

Lol Keuchel would be such a Kenny move

I call big bullshit. No way it's Keuchel. That would be......gross.

For sure, never hurts to have AAAA depth.

We can’t sign wheeler, this thread isn’t even close to the required 300 page level.

harsh way to treat a guy that's been with the organization for 10 years guess his loyalty money went to abreu ?

The fact that WSD wrote that article and threw out today as a possibility is some serious fucking smoke IMO.

Take sources with a grain of salt.. HOWEVER, Everyone shitting on the sources last year (that had info) are probably going too far.. We most certainly had Machado UNTIL the Padres realized... omg, they're only offering 250?! I 100% believe we had Machado until the last minute, then Padres jumped in because we sucked as an org.

Some day he is going to be right. For as off as he's been, he sure does have a lot of people paying attention to his tweets.

Ricky: Hold my beer, Bunt

If that is the case, You are gonna have to go find his twitter

Such a bizarre thing to feel the need to post in the middle of the night.

I still believe in Benintendi. I think he was in between approaches, and hopefully he reverts to his self. This is a guy who had low strikeouts throughout college, minors and his first few years in pro ball, then spikes this year to 22%. I think he was trying to add more power and ended up diminishing his game. I'd buy low on him all day.

Yeah I don't think this is likely but it's interesting from a roster-building strategy. I think we tend to underrate the impact of an elite talent like Rendon (truly elite, a 1.000 OPS addition to a lineup is insane) when discussing offseason additions because he doesn't fit neatly in. There is a gigantic drop-off in acquired production from Rendon to 2nd place. The only mentioned addition that comes close in 2020 is betts on position player side. Then on pitching side you need to be on strasburg/cole to have that kind of impact.

Ehhh, I think he'd be a good fit if he weren't suspended the first month and half when frankly that is when we'd need him most.

I don't remember but I feel like I've seen his name before.

???

So I do keep thinking about Rendon. One thing that I like about the Grandal signing is it is playing with what the market is giving you with your team situation. The sox have payroll flexibility to add elite talent The team is young and malleable to this point Take the elite talent, basically. There will certainly be a question moving forward about salary level, but if you sign wheeler around 5/90 and Rendon at 32.5 AAv or abouts, you are still around and south of 140. You also then either have excess capacity to trade for RF, or the extreme examples of moving Moncada to OF. The base of the team is at such a high level at that point that you have an easier case to make with Reinsdorf that one extra compelling piece is worth going over for a year or two. And, as many find important, you've done it with just money resources, and also have likely pushed contention into 2020 in a reasonable way. The most difficult decision will be whether ot lose control of robert/madrigal to really take advantage. Roster, compelling: C Grandal/McCann 1b Abreu 2b Madrigal or Moncada 3b Rendon SS Anderson LF Eloy CF Robert RF Moncada and or addition using Madrigal Pitching staff: Giolito/Wheeler/Kopech/Cease/Lopez/Rodon/Covey that lineup has only really one possibly below avg. offensively player in madrigal and a DH of likely collins whose bat would be part time. Robert is also a risk his first year. The pitching staff is a question mark. But I am more comfortable going year by year with pitching as long as we can soak in up to the 160mill range on a given year. It is more interesting than we would think, but more disruptive than the lego piece addition of grabbing a RFer. And while that thread of "would you rather have machado or 250 mill" if it instead becomes rendon that actually was a choice and my answer would be rendon.

https://fromthe108.com/2019/11/25/jose-abreus-contract-a-deep-look/ whats the view on Beefloafs take. 1) I love the loaf, if he believes this I’m sold! 2) two my view already wasn’t that this was a massive overpay as I believe intangibles have value that could one day be measurable. When that happens this deal will look better. 3) what if this gets a Yoyo exstension done. For those reading this pay particular attention to what the Loaf thInks of the accounting.

I just think people are overreacting about this deal. Yeah it is an overpay, but I'm 99 percent certain this deal won't stop us from making the moves we intend to make. Our front office knew what they'd have to offer Jose and calculated this into their plans. We are still going to acquire some good talent and need to enjoy rooting for Jose having a chance to finally win.

This is exactly what this board needed: another idiotic Tatis thread. Enjoy the strong start to the offseason or buy a Padres cap.

Can you stop trolling with the Billy Hamilton shit?

Bumgarner pitched in a fucking airport for half his games and still gave up 30 HR. He had a 504 slugging % and 840 OPS against him on the road. That translates to terrible moving into a smaller park. If they can't land Wheeler they need to make a trade.

Always nice to see GB get their ass kicked. 49ers are really, really good.

Guys it’s pretty clear. Last year we had the option to sign Manny machado and nobody else for the next decade, or not sign him and be able to sign other players each year. Sox made right choice imo

Take a chance and sign CF Billy Hamilton. If he doesn't work out at least we will have good speed off the bench.

This is a tough one. The Yankees should rightfully be concerned and have a say in things that will affect his performance. Seeing some of the absolute quacks out there over the years would make me require approval as well. However, to totally void a contract seems too extreme.