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Dodgers paid a steep price for Kopech and Edman, but sometimes you have to give up a talent of Miguel Vargas' level.

If Getz isn't getting into the clubhouse of a 121 loss team before, during, and after firing people he is an even bigger idiot than his early trade returns indicate he is.

SlowEddy gonna really try to convince people to run it back? Man I'm an optimist in some group chats but the shameless stupidity is just insufferable when it should be funny or cute.

Will you soy boys get back on topic. No one gives a rat's ass what you think of Clevinger. I believe the Sox should keep Robert and bring in someone to fix him.

Imagine if Fedde were on the Twins in 2025, we’d definitely have no shot a playoff spot then.

41-121 is a tell tale sign the GM is bad.

Yep, I know finding recent posts in a thread you posted in 13 hours ago is difficult.

Much like a politician in a debate, he heard it and turned it into what he actually wanted to answer.

Or 2026. Or 2027. Or 2028. Oh, wait..

Except the Sox are more of an F.

This is a quality boomer joke

Getz has confidence his team is going to compete next season, just like last offseason. 🤣

Getz is over here playing chess while all those other turkeys are playing checkers.

the real shitty part is knowing in 15 years when the team's competitive again we'll probably give up 9 prospects for michael kopech

Our franchise is a disaster, JR refuses to hire good scouts and the best people around to develop our players at both the Major and Minor league levels but to tell you the truth I thought Kopech was a lost cause but because he went to an organization that does everything right in order to win they were able to turn MK around to the pitcher we thought he was always going to be. f*** JR and his cheap and antiquated ways that have just about destroyed the White Sox franchise while becoming the laughing stock of MLB.

the manager for the next 2-3 years will make no difference whatsoever. getz has to know this

The Bears are a draw. Fans care about them even when they are bad. Jerry has ruined his own team to the point that Sox fans are just casual and indifferent and just won’t attend games if the product is bad. What incentive would the Bears have to tie their anchor to the Sox? The Sox would only be a detriment to whatever the Bears want to do. And the Bears are actually willing to spend money on their own stadium. Jerry is a cheap piece of sh1t and wants everyone but him to pay for his own new stadium. I absolutely can’t stand Pritzker considering he is a billionaire and has still committed some shady things to avoid paying taxes (look up removing his toilets from his mansion), but I hope he keeps telling Jerry to shove his funding requests up his ass.

Some people just continue to make excuses and ignoring bad is bad, Getz is the Grifol of GMs.

This was the worst season in the history of baseball in terms of losses. I would call that a pretty clear sign of the quality of the GM, manager, or anyone else connected to this organization. Your hyperventilating over people not being positive after a 121 loss season continues to be almost fake in it's persistence plus indignation.

Can people be fired from their jobs and not have broken any laws?

Getz is going to name himself.

If he needs players help evaluating his own manager, God help us all.

This was one of the numerous issues with Hahn...

Ideally, they keep him until the trade deadline and he tears it up, rather than selling him this offseason while his value is so low.

Angels and DBacks before they got good.

The part that Dan Hayes left out is that Twins wanted the Sox to eat $$ on Fedde. Sox wanted someone better than Keashall to do so.

The “Share” link feature apparently doesn’t work properly, but you know exactly what I was referring to. A reporter with sources can’t ever be right, but WestEddy always is!

lol the same Padres fan that also wants to get rid of Machado Side note: I’m glad that’s not you. That’s the timeline of a highly unstable person 😬

Who knows if someone buys the organization. All of these organizations are into pitching but offense went down in baseball. But we ignore that the Twins were going to give up one worthy prospect for a current successful pitcher on the worst team in baseball on an affordable 2 year deal. Then there's the catch 22 with any prospect Would his development be rushed or unlearn important things being in an inferior farm system. Then Getz does the thing most dumbass GMs do at the trade deadline is to trade just to make a trade. Only the better teams seem to get better with those. Sometimes the habits of running baseball teams can be moronic. Just maybe pitching is becoming overvalued when teams are not willing to give up young position players. Just think may baseball teams had bad pens and I wonder how many GMs are going to do the Hahn thing and have most of the money tied up in a pen. It's always been the most inconsistent part of baseball. Great one year, suck the next.

Lucky for you, my own opinion isn’t rooted in the opinions of the players. I don’t talk to them. I don’t know what they think. Of course, the actual crux of the post is that, unfortunately, millionaire athletes need to be compelled to do their job to the best of their ability. This strikes me as the only reason to have a manager. In real jobs too, management is worthless except they can fire you if you don’t do your job effectively. That’s motivation!

i looked up tickets to brazil and they're expensive I think I'll just go to target.

That's fair I just don't like it when everyone someone disagrees with is pigeonholed into a general "you" Sure there were people that wanted Kopech DFA'd but there were also a healthy amount of people that thought getting a failed hitting prospect who can't play defense at any position was still a shitty return. I don't think either "side" predicted Kopech would be throwing 102 mph at the end of a 1-2-3 inning in the playoffs. I think what I'm getting at is that it's fine to be wrong. I called the Twins fools' gold that would find a way to miss the playoffs but I also didn't expect it would be the Tigers that would unseat them.

I did mention many, not everyone. Many would be correct.✅

sure go find the quotes of who was being disingenuous but don't call everyone a general "you". i don't give a s%*# about dick or kopech but pretending like NO ONE IN THE WORLD thought it was a bad return for Kopech is what's really gaslit. If you don't have a fuckin argument then that's when everyone becomes "you" I know it's easy to paint everyone as even dumber than you are when you're wrong for being wrong for the wrong reasons "it was just the analytical department's fault" what kind of weak wristed opinion is that. like if we had 4 dorks saying "Kopech should throw more fastballs" somehow what?

That’s some quality gaslighting there. Why you hate Dick Allen so much

no it isn't. stop sniffing your own farts and pretending it was everyone else's

If anything, it showed how much they missed Musgrove

Yes but someone else should be sacking Getz! Although if that same person is picking the replacement it will just be more of the same.

It's funnier, still, that guys on the internet think their opinions have more weight than actual players on the team. Tell us, Floyd Bannister 1983, how were the training exercises?

So would I but... What proven experienced manager would take this clusterf@#$? And JR won't pay for premium managerial talent. You'll get Sizemore and like it! 😆

Twitter is where all the rational sports homies hang out. Drew Thorpe would have won the series.

Sounds to me like they're broadcasting in fucking mono audio. Lol.

They need to fix the audio on their studio,shows. All of them echo, and it sounds like their mics are poorly positioned.

I commend that you'll wait to see how all parties involved turn out but from the very start that trade looked lopsided. Fedde had proven the changes he made in Korea were legit .He has a solid big strong body, and ptched extremely well for the Sox and had the extra year of control. Vargas was on a downward spiral with the Dodgers .He could put up great AAA numbers but he had no position to play and had yet to figure out MLB pitching. Fedde may very well be a 5 WAR starting pitcher for the Cards next year. All he has to do is have a 2025 as good ashis 2024. At the time of the trade he was more valuale to the Cards than Tommy Edman was who hadn't played all year. No one's pretending Kopech is a Cy Young finalist but as far as I know the Dodgers did nothing to fix him unless someone can find something specific that I couldn't. The fact is in his last 5 appearances with the Sox he pitched 5.2 innings 0 R, 1 hit 1BB and 8K after he finally started to trust his coaches. He just continued doing with the Dodgers what he had with the Sox . 24 G, 24 IP, 9 H ,3 ER, 29 K, 10 BB 1.13 ERA , 4-0 Record, 6 Saves , .792 WHIP and thats with a walk rate of 3.8 per 9 IP which is still a bit too high. But over his last 29.2 innings he may have been the most valuable RP in baseball. It's not like he had lost his stuff but he had lost his way. He was stuck between the pitcher he wanted to be and the pitcher he could be and it took him a while to trust a lesser vision of himself in his mind and accept his new role as a RP and how best to approach that role. The Dodgers were 19 -5 in games that Kopech pitched. Someone of the 3 guys the Sox got has to become a productive MLB player. It would be nice if it was Vargas but he couldn't have been any worse than he was with the Sox with a -1.0 bWAR in 42 games. Kopech gave the Dodgers 1.0 bWAR in his 24 games and and a dominant late innings presence. The trade from the very beginning felt 1decent prospect short or a better headliner short. We got something you might be able to squint at and eek out a MLB player somewhere down the road for productive MLB talent.

He fired everyone but his cronies and literally nothing changed.

Someone had to get the axe, and Getz sure wasn't firing himself.

Getz has done so much bad that one thread alone can’t contain all of his badness.

Trevor Bauer choked a woman until she passed out, then he beat her up. He also admitted to all of that on a monitored phone call. However, MLB didn't find Bauer "guilty". MLB found that his behavior exceed their threshold for tolerance. People don't want to take their kids to a ball game and have their 7-year-old girl root for a guy who chokes a woman til she passes out, then beats her up. MLB made a business decision with Bauer, just as they did with Clevinger.

118 wins