Harry Chappas

Missing out on Machado and Harper is not that issue. The issue is that two players that fit perfectly into the rebuild were passed over because the organization is cheap and the front office response to fans appears to us that they feel we are morons. A player of their talent is not going to be an option for the White Sox in free agency in this rebuild again. It was an epic failure as has been he management of the team under Rick Hahn. That is the issue. Neither guy was overpaid and the White Sox were never in on either. The smoke and bullshit all winter was just that...bullshit. They were never going to get either and they should have had whichever they wanted by forcing the issue. Had they said from day one that they felt the skillset of each player did not warrant the contract fine but the Tanaka signing dog and pony show to in the end not even be close is bad and then for them to talk about their fundamental changes in organization stylings is insulting to any fan paying attention. Nothing changed. They still cannot draft or develop players and they are not willing to sign big name free agents. Kenny Williams was in the front office when the Garland trade happened. The white flag was a rebuild but Rick Hahn wants us fans to believe he is doing something novel. The only thing he is doing is failing miserably at his job. He actually makes KW look good and I hate KW. That is where my thoughts are in regard to the Chicago White Sox. I really hope that changes but it is only getting worse as the season draws near.

If the Brewers do this, I will sadly be more interested in the Brewers than the White Sox.

But it should continually be said as it is spot on. I cancelled a 200 ticket event that I was planning and the reason I told the ticket agent was that I felt the White Sox front office was full of shit. I have stated this before and will again. My desire for White Sox baseball has been waning, is worse now then ever and it is not getting better. I bought tickets to opening day before the front office wet the bed and I am debating whether I even want to go.

Wonder if they would have taken Kyle Gibson. I liked Mitchell.

In all seriousness what happens if Eloy is a top 10 player in 5 years?

He couldn't supplement those to form a winner at the MLB level. You or I could have made those trades to get those players... After that he has done nothing to build the organization. The drafts are embarrassing.

I was watching the game today and was really annoyed at Steve and Benetti talking about how much better this year's team will be and locker room bull shit. It really is going to be hard to watch any games this year. I thought I would get back into it but it's just not happening. Hopefully Eloy does the trick. I watched 3 innings that said screw it.

I'm talking more about mentally and when a runner gets on they both seem to fall apart.

It really is scary how similar he is to Gavin Floyd.

The MLB parent pedigree is behind adolfo and tatis signings so hopefully they don't screw it up. My guess is Vaughan is there and then it is a no-brainer for them but would love Witt, I think WItt goes 1-1.

Well I am thinking more and more that signing older injury free pitchers is the way to go.

It's a new phenomenon as well. Football off season was meh until free agency and salary cap came into play. MLB used to be awesome.

The issue is this organization has hit on very low volume of developing players and there is no reason to believe they will hit on any more than one or two of the current crop and we were shown that they will not bid properly for free agents so in 5 years we will most likely be where we are now. The ineptness of this front office is shown in this past off-season by over paying for bad free agents and then trading for a $9M contract for a worthless player from a divisional for looking to cut salary. The fact that Jon Jay is making more then Adam Jones ends any debate of the front office having any kind of clue.

I think we are rock bottom but not necessarily looking good going forward.

Until a contract greater than $100M is signed it is not BS. Remember when they were going to get Tanaka or way back when A-Rod. The White Sox will pay over $100M for a free agent if they are getting a good deal on said free agent .

Just like the Sox look like geniuses in the Belle opt out....in hind sight....in real time they let the best hitter in baseball walk away and then let the white flag rise just a few years after having a major hand in cancelling a world series they had a good shot at playing in.

Two top flight players not yet in their prime becoming free agents All of the big boys from day say they are out of the biding The White Sox take this to mean they can low ball both guys and wait them out The White Sox prove yet again they are second rate bunch But hey we have Daniel Palka and Nicky Delmonico

Siliver lining is that both went to the NL and thus the NL is now a bear and the cub road looks tougher then ever. In regard to baseball that is about all I can do is root against he cubs. I kind of backed the White Sox organization in the past but now I really am buying in to the fact that they are just cheap and now they are all about pocketing the revenue generated through the MLB.

should have been southwest side. Sorry I am a Chicago legal voter.

The White Sox are in no position to worry about 3 years down the road and the impact the opt out will have. Hopefully Harper can attract other talent here over this time. In three years if he opts out, they can try and extend him early like the Yankees did with A-Rd or pick up a high draft pick. Harper will be fully engaged to excel over those 3 years as opposed to a mailing it in Manny.

The White Sox are asking Harper to bet on them. Why should he bet on them? Same with Machado. The White Sox are not desirable. There is as likely a chance they average 65 wins over the next five years as there is they average 85. The White Sox needed to realize that they will have to pay for these guys and they don't want to therefore they are not getting them. Adam Jones will be signed soon is my guess.

I'm a late 40's white guy from the southwest suburbs and I voted for Lightfoot. I thought her and Vallas were only two candidates worth a damn.

The Machado thing is irritating not because they didn't want to go to 10/$300. The issue is over paying and helping the Indians for Alonso and bringing in Jay. Neither guy does anything for the future of this franchise. Also if Tatis hits the common fan will now be able to see the epic failure in the White Sox giving the Padres the left side of their infield. If Harper is more than 10/$340 fine let him go...I personally think 10/$350M is my ceiling Losing both is not the worst thing it is the idea that we were told they were in on getting them but then we find out they are only in if they get them on the cheap. We as fans were given the impression that this was what the White Sox were going to do and it is obvious that it is certainly not the case.

I wonder how much of Manny leaving the limelight impacts anything. Let's be honest the White Sox getting Harper puts Machado to the Pads out of the news cycle completely. The east coast/limited interest bias can't get Trout into the mix from LA....you will never hear from Machado again. You put Machado in NY or Philly and there is still front page coverage. Harper going to a big market takes over the baseball news cycle for the next few weeks and is reason to check in on the White Sox. I am also wondering if Machado was balking about playing third here.

What player that has fallen victim to this has left their team and used this as the basis?