2023 MLB Draft thread

[baseball_gal_aly]

It's really hard to trust the Sox player development at any level right now. 

I hope these kids can overcome the disadvantage they're at. 

[oldsox]

15 hours ago, Quin said:

@Y2Jimmy0 enjoyed the pod with Callis, especially the part about Oppur.

Okay, fill us in on young Christian Oppur. 5th rounder.

[Sleepy Harold]

 

 

[Y2Jimmy0]

7 minutes ago, Sleepy Harold said:

 

 

This puts the White Sox at $9,517,800. Just under the 5% overage total. Smart strategy. 

[Sleepy Harold]

1 minute ago, Y2Jimmy0 said:

This puts the White Sox at $9,517,800. Just under the 5% overage total. Smart strategy. 

 

Sure does

[BamaDoc]

Today is the deadline for signing draftees and the Sox signed everyone!  That is a start.  By my rough count the Sox went over their pool by about 446k which is just below the 5% line penalty.  Jerry et al pay a 75% tax on that.  If you go over the 5%, you lose a first rounder.  So since I give them crap for a lot of things, I suppose it is only fair to give them credit for spending.  Time will tell if it was well spent.  I did note only one 10k signing.  Everyone else in rounds 11-20 were at least the 150k "max" without counting against your pool. A lot less punted picks which should give better depth and the chance for a wild card.    

Sorry Harold, I had done my cyphering before seeing your post.

[Quin]

On 7/19/2023 at 2:45 PM, oldsox said:

Okay, fill us in on young Christian Oppur. 5th rounder.

I missed this, but you should listen to the FutureSox podcast cause they keep discussing him.

But TL;DL - young lefty starting pitcher throw hard

[Johno]

When are the 2023 draft prospects going to start playing some games?

[DirtySox]

8 minutes ago, Johno said:

When are the 2023 draft prospects going to start playing some games?

Already are in the ACL.

[Timmy U]

9 minutes ago, Johno said:

When are the 2023 draft prospects going to start playing some games?

3 of them have played two games in the ACL (Gonzalez, Harris, and Park).

[Boopa1219]

Is Gonzalez the 3rd baseman of the future?

C Quero/Lee

1B (Empty)

2B Sosa/Rodriguez?

SS Montgomery

3B: Gonzalez

OF Benintendi 

OF Robert

OF Colas?

DH Eloy?

[Harold's Leg Lift]

He's a game changer.

 

[oldsox]

4 hours ago, Harold's Leg Lift said:

He's a game changer.

 

Moncada had numbers like that in his first minor league season.

[SoCalChiSox]

On 8/1/2023 at 2:35 PM, Joshua Strong said:

Is Gonzalez the 3rd baseman of the future?

C Quero/Lee

1B (Empty)

2B Sosa/Rodriguez?

SS Montgomery

3B: Gonzalez

OF Benintendi 

OF Robert

OF Colas?

DH Eloy?

2B more likely for Gonzalez. Ramos at 3B. 

[bmags]

Yo handy Morales is absolutely crushing the ball too

[Bob Sacamano]

On 8/1/2023 at 4:35 PM, Joshua Strong said:

Is Gonzalez the 3rd baseman of the future?

C Quero/Lee

1B (Empty)

2B Sosa/Rodriguez?

SS Montgomery

3B: Gonzalez

OF Benintendi 

OF Robert

OF Colas?

DH Eloy?

I like Tim Elko so far.

[Boopa1219]

4 hours ago, SoCalChiSox said:

2B more likely for Gonzalez. Ramos at 3B. 

If Gonzalez is too slow for SS, then he’s probably too slow for 2B. I did forget about Ramos. 

Edited August 22, 2023 by Joshua Strong

[Springfield Soxfan]

Has Gonzalez really been that bad? That Keith Law article on KW says not looking good for Gonzo.  

[Timmy U]

1 hour ago, Springfield Soxfan said:

Has Gonzalez really been that bad? That Keith Law article on KW says not looking good for Gonzo.  

Look, as James would point out, it is way early, but I have not liked what I have seen.  Great understanding of the strike zone.  Not bad defensively, but he rarely hits the ball hard.  The slow running is really only noticeable going down the line to first.  There’s time, but just watching them play, I prefer Brooks Baldwin, last year’s 12th rounder.  Not what you want from 1-15.

Edited August 24, 2023 by Timmy U

[bmags]

He's been about as bad as can be.

But yeah his speed thing is more acceleration. Completely bizarre how slow he gets started to first given he gives up on his swing to start running there early.

 

[Quin]

Maybe a new director of minor league development will help him out.

[bmags]

One thing I do find difficult to understand, and maybe Fegan could have answered, is this board we are constantly fighting between two exclusive ideas, imo.

1. Compared to other orgs, our minor leaguers are getting  no help. And their success is 100% dependent on them and often getting outside help in offseason or just being wunderkinds.

2. The org is way too hands on, being over aggressive in manipulating players who had already proven to be successful.

I'm really skeptical about 2. They have always seem to be a "let them see it fail" org to me rather than ones to prematurely fix. At least buddy bells go to seemed to be to put them in a league where it was likely to be exposed and see them flail. Maybe that is different now. Fulmer DID seem to be proactively managed to smooth it out, but I thought that was going to be injury related. A cooper guidance.

I'm skeptical it's 2, personally. Gonzalez may have read all the doubts, or is over compensating in trying to address them. I'd be really surprised if the coaches are being THAT aggressive on him now.

[reiks12]

Went to look at what Teel has been doing so far, and yeah I really fucking hate the Red Sox.

[oldsox]

4 hours ago, reiks12 said:

Went to look at what Teel has been doing so far, and yeah I really fucking hate the Red Sox.

Yep, he's hitting a ton.

[Quin]

5 hours ago, reiks12 said:

Went to look at what Teel has been doing so far, and yeah I really fucking hate the Red Sox.

I wonder what would have happened if they hadn't blocked the White Sox from picking Benintendi (we grabbed Fulmer that draft).