GreatScott82 Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 Fans were responsible for the Bulls front office shake up. Now Jerry is alot less hands on with the Bulls these days than he is with the White Sox but fans must keep demanding change. Hahn is horrible, we all know this. Kenny is horrible, we all know this. Modern baseball has passed them by and they don't know how to adapt to it without insulting the fanbase and blaming all of their problems on injuries. Enough is enough. Fans need to chant "FIRE HAHN, FIRE KENNY" anytime they are trailing during a homegame this season. Let those knuckleheads know that we are done with their B.S. and losing ways. Rick Hahn's record as a GM is BRUTAL. And consequently- Kenny's record as the president of this franchise is the same. BOTH NEED TO GO YESTERDAY! LAST YEAR, HELL- 10 years ago! Jerry is holding this franchise hostage and he's too stuborn and/or senile to admit to it. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurtCG Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 57 minutes ago, Jerry McNertney said: In today's power rankings, the White Sox are #21, three behind the Cubs. How's the rebuild going? The future is much much brighter on the North Side of town. The Cubs will win more games than the Sox this year and will spend $$ again this offseason to get better. They also have some legit dudes looming in their farm system. The Sox rebuild has been a massive massive failure. It is probably the least succesful tear down in baseball history. Hahn and company basically wrote the book on how to run your franchise into the ground. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 31 minutes ago, LittleHurtCG said: The future is much much brighter on the North Side of town. The Cubs will win more games than the Sox this year and will spend $$ again this offseason to get better. They also have some legit dudes looming in their farm system. The Sox rebuild has been a massive massive failure. It is probably the least successful tear down in baseball history. Hahn and company basically wrote the book on how to run your franchise into the ground. I thought the Cubs this off season did a lot of what the Sox did before 2005, bring in a lot, as in great number, of guys with MLB experience who had some upside. Hope to hell though they don't win the World Series! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurtCG Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said: I thought the Cubs this off season did a lot of what the Sox did before 2005, bring in a lot, as in great number, of guys with MLB experience who had some upside. Hope to hell though they don't win the World Series! Ha. No way in hell do the Cubs win it all this year. It's a complete shame that they are already a better team than the Sox though. It seems like the Sox are entering another dark age while Cubs fans are begginng to see some light. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanOfCorn Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 We can all chant Fire Hahn or whatever, but this mess of an organization will continue to be a mess as long as the people at the top stay the same, and that's Reinsdorf and all his partners. They need to cut bait and sell the team to someone who put the team in a position to succeed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 "It's always a huge key, no matter what -- how well you can scout, how well you can bring talent into your organization. Hopefully, it's for players that come up and contribute by playing in the big leagues, but even having the ability to supplement and add to your roster in trades. It's the No. 1 thing in order to be successful (as a GM), to have a scouting, player development system that's top notch. And that's always been our goal here since Day 1." "We relish the opportunity (to reboot the farm system again). You’ve got to go out and you’ve got to scout and every single year have good drafts, have good international programs..." GM'ing ABC's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 1 minute ago, caulfield12 said: "It's always a huge key, no matter what -- how well you can scout, how well you can bring talent into your organization. Hopefully, it's for players that come up and contribute by playing in the big leagues, but even having the ability to supplement and add to your roster in trades. It's the No. 1 thing in order to be successful (as a GM), to have a scouting, player development system that's top notch. And that's always been our goal here since Day 1." "We relish the opportunity (to reboot the farm system again). You’ve got to go out and you’ve got to scout and every single year have good drafts, have good international programs..." GM'ing ABC's It's all Greek to Hahn though. He pays lip service to it but when push comes to shove? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said: It's all Greek to Hahn though. He pays lip service to it but when push comes to shove? He toes the company line... Leading to the Balta accusation that he should just resign if he had any pride, since the ownership group (seemingly) no longer trusts his judgement. He's just a caretaker or will executor at this point in time. He can sign guys on the periphery of Tier 1/A like Benintendi or Grandal...but these contracts for hundreds of millions or even $1 billion in the next 20-30 years will be far outside of his scope or purview. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 Just now, caulfield12 said: He toes the company line... Leading to the Balta accusation that he should just resign if he had any pride, since the ownership group (seemingly) no longer trusts his judgement. He's just a caretaker or will executor at this point in time. He can sign guys on the periphery of Tier 1/A like Benintendi or Grandal...but these contracts for hundreds of millions or even $1 billion in the next 20-30 years will be far outside of his scope or purview. He won't be in this position in 20 years because the Sox will be under new ownership and he'll have been fired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zisk Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 I've spent the last 40 years as a cog in the wheel. For the most part, I'm ok with it. My kids turned out pretty well. The wife and I have more than most . I'm lucky enough to see my grand kids all the time. But it really hurts to see fools ruining the destiny of my first love. Kenny and Rick are in over their heads and always have been. Knowing JR couldn't care less makes it worse. We've all been saying the same thing in different ways for 15 years. What's the point? The worst part is billionaires live a long time. 5 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 14 hours ago, Lip Man 1 said: He won't be in this position in 20 years because the Sox will be under new ownership and he'll have been fired. Jerry will still own the Sox in 20 years, have you not seen how healthy he looks? Looks fantastic for 86 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShoeLessRob Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 Jerry is like the Emperor from Star Wars… unlimited power!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 28 minutes ago, ShoeLessRob said: Jerry is like the Emperor from Star Wars… unlimited power!!!! Imagine having such power and choosing to be wholly mediocre 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 imagine being a young talented player and you get drafted by the Sox, id flat out refuse to sign at this point for fear of never developing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiddleCoastBias Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 20 hours ago, CanOfCorn said: We can all chant Fire Hahn or whatever, but this mess of an organization will continue to be a mess as long as the people at the top stay the same, and that's Reinsdorf and all his partners. They need to cut bait and sell the team to someone who put the team in a position to succeed. With this quote from Grifol, I prefer to live in a world where Grifol also agrees that Hahn should be fired. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydBannister1983 Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 21 hours ago, CanOfCorn said: We can all chant Fire Hahn or whatever, but this mess of an organization will continue to be a mess as long as the people at the top stay the same, and that's Reinsdorf and all his partners. They need to cut bait and sell the team to someone who put the team in a position to succeed. I wonder in the back of my head if there is something worse waiting in the wings after Hahn is gone. There’s no guarantee it gets better. It would be hard to get worse but not impossible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 1 hour ago, MiddleCoastBias said: With this quote from Grifol, I prefer to live in a world where Grifol also agrees that Hahn should be fired. Wow, he fits right on in lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 3 hours ago, MiddleCoastBias said: With this quote from Grifol, I prefer to live in a world where Grifol also agrees that Hahn should be fired. Shades of TLR getting coaching advice last year from fans near the dugout, must have heard that story... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 2 hours ago, FloydBannister1983 said: I wonder in the back of my head if there is something worse waiting in the wings after Hahn is gone. There’s no guarantee it gets better. It would be hard to get worse but not impossible. Good reason to never fire anyone. It could get worse. We probably deserve Musk as owner with that type of mentality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydBannister1983 Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 2 hours ago, caulfield12 said: Good reason to never fire anyone. It could get worse. We probably deserve Musk as owner with that type of mentality. I’m not advocating for keeping Hahn around. Not at all. I’m just saying if anybody can make it worse it’s this organization. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 "ask me after the parade" will bump after every miserable loss 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 Hey everyone, we still have Cease and Kopech next year, after that, 0. 0 depth in this organization on the pitching front, hitting front, hell any front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 8 minutes is too long.bump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 There’s just no other organization that would have stuck with a GM with these results this long. I bought into the rebuild. I felt bad for him about the La Russa hiring. But there’s just no more denying what should happen now. Hahn has to go. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurtCG Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 Have any other recent tank jobs failed as spectacularly as the Sox one? Maybe the Pirates of last decade I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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