Bob Sacamano Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Wow, that $40M number is great than half the biggest free agent signing the Sox ever made, ha. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-Train to 35th Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 1 hour ago, Bob Sacamano said: Very true. This is just opening old wounds from times they should have launched or gone with better managers when they were available. Counsell coming here makes no sense for Counsell (unless they are significantly overpaying). 5 years 40 Mil, highest contract ever for a MLB manager. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 1 hour ago, Boopa1219 said: He might’ve been a scapegoat but the Giants fired Kapler, a winning manager. The Cubs just fired David Ross, a winning manager. The Mets fired Buck Showalter, a winning manager. And the Sox won’t fire Grifol. Make it make sense. Nobody wants to come to the Sox at this point. We aren't competing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 1 hour ago, FloydBannister1983 said: I’d rake David Caruso over Grifol. I wonder if Alex Caruso can get some sort of Jerry special Bulls/Sox contract Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 11 minutes ago, Quin said: I wonder if Alex Caruso can get some sort of Jerry special Bulls/Sox contract At this point, Slappy, Mike Caruso seems a better choice. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 54 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: Wow, that $40M number is great than half the biggest free agent signing the Sox ever made, ha. Reinsdorf, choking on his cigar "You mean to tell me this Counsell fella is forty-times better than Pedro?!?! These owners har har har" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 2 hours ago, Bob Sacamano said: If Getz wanted to whip his sack on the table at the gm meetings, he would have fired Grifol and hired Counsell. Jerry would veto it on principle, even if Getz won the Powerball and offered to pay for both Counsell and Grifol's buyout out of pocket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiddleCoastBias Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Craig Counsell signed what would be the 11th largest free agent contract the White Sox have ever given out. As a GM. We are not a serious franchise. 2 1 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Ross pretty much won all these years and is out and yet the s%*# show on the south side keep the clown they got.. In the words of Harry Carey..... I just can't figure it out..... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Once again the Cubs make a bold strike to try to get better (granted it doesn't always work out...) and it usually has some logic behind it. What do the White Sox do? Whatever JR demands and what usually makes the least amount of sense to even a casual fan. Incompetent, dysfunctional and inept. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 11 minutes ago, MiddleCoastBias said: Craig Counsell signed what would be the 11th largest free agent contract the White Sox have ever given out. As a GM. We are not a serious franchise. Only two White Sox Opening Day payrolls were larger than the combined $148M paid to Benintendi ($75M) and $73M Grandal ($73M). The first five years resulted in 2.7 bWAR with four more to go which may not even result in a positive bWAR number after nine seasons. Only four of the eleven seasons resulted in an over .500 record. White Sox Nine Figure Opening Day Payrolls & Ben-Dal 2022 $193M 81-81 2023 $181M 61-101 Ben-Dal Total $148M (TWTW Record Grandal 171-192 & Benintendi 59-92 year 1 of 5) 2021 $129M 93-69 2011 $128M 79-83 2008 $121M 89-74 2013 $119M 63-99 2015 $119M 76-86 2016 $114M 78-84 2007 $109M 72-90 2010 $103M 88-74 2006 $103M 90-72 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 2 hours ago, Boopa1219 said: He might’ve been a scapegoat but the Giants fired Kapler, a winning manager. The Cubs just fired David Ross, a winning manager. The Mets fired Buck Showalter, a winning manager. And the Sox won’t fire Grifol. Make it make sense. Jerry. Reinsdorf. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grinder Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 The cubs kick our sorry asses again. This franchise continues to be the worse in sports history. Is contraction the only answer? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 1 minute ago, The Grinder said: The cubs kick our sorry asses again. This franchise continues to be the worse in sports history. Is contraction the only answer? The answer is new ownership which eventually will come. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grinder Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said: The answer is new ownership which eventually will come. I'll be 64 this Thurs, Im afraid he may outlive my expiration date 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 1 minute ago, The Grinder said: I'll be 64 this Thurs, Im afraid he may outlive my expiration date Lol. This Jabroni has owned this team since I was 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, The Grinder said: I'll be 64 this Thurs, Im afraid he may outlive my expiration date Lol. This Jabroni has owned this team since I was 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rey21 Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 It’d be fantastic if Jerry Reinsdorf wakes up tomorrow and decides it’s time to sell the White Sox 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grinder Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 25 minutes ago, Rey21 said: It’d be fantastic if Jerry Reinsdorf wakes up tomorrow and decides it’s time to sell the White Sox Or sell the farm 😅 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Pedro seems overmatched. Is there any way he could turn it around and become say, Al Lopez in a few years? My question is, despite my disdain for Pedro is there any hope he'll be top notch at some point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Just now, greg775 said: Pedro seems overmatched. Is there any way he could turn it around and become say, Al Lopez in a few years? My question is, despite my disdain for Pedro is there any hope he'll be top notch at some point? He seems overmatchrd because he is. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Sox won’t even spend 40 million total on a player this offseason 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 5 minutes ago, greg775 said: Pedro seems overmatched. Is there any way he could turn it around and become say, Al Lopez in a few years? My question is, despite my disdain for Pedro is there any hope he'll be top notch at some point? After a few years, Carlos Sanchez became Yolmer Sanchez. Alas, he didn't get any better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 12 minutes ago, fathom said: Sox won’t even spend 40 million total on a player this offseason dude they are licking their chops at hader. just gonna bullpen back in man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 1 minute ago, bmags said: dude they are licking their chops at hader. just gonna bullpen back in man. Nightengale said every GM thinks Hader goes to the Rangers, FWIW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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