fathom Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 4 minutes ago, WestEddy said: Imanaga to the Giants is one of those "best case scenarios" for the Cease market, right? Not if it pushes Snell to Yankees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 9 Author Share Posted January 9 20 minutes ago, WestEddy said: Imanaga to the Giants is one of those "best case scenarios" for the Cease market, right? Imanaga to the Giants, Snell to the Angels, & Montgomery resigning with Texas is probably the best case outcome for us 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Harold Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 16 minutes ago, fathom said: Not if it pushes Snell to Yankees. would have to hope the Angels are still interested and do the usual Angels overpay thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 9 Author Share Posted January 9 (edited) Jim Bowden hypothetical trade! Dylan Cease to BOS for Marcelo Mayer, Wikelman Gonzalez, Jarren Duran 🤔 Edited January 9 by Chicago White Sox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 7 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Jim Bowden hypothetical trade! Dylan Cease to BOS for Marcelo Mayer, Wikelman Gonzalez, Jarren Duran 🤔 No. Roman Anthony or bust. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 45 minutes ago, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said: No. Roman Anthony or bust. I would do that trade in a heartbeat, but Boston would never 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 35 minutes ago, fathom said: I would do that trade in a heartbeat, but Boston would never Marcelo’s back problems at such a young age are concerning and Duran is already on the older side. If the deal is with Boston I would insist on Anthony as the centerpiece. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 6 hours ago, Bob Sacamano said: In all seriousness, I like your proposal. Thanks. The Sox would basically be replacing Liam's contract with Jansen's while *buying* a top prospect like Rafaela (if we're comparing it to the MLB.com deal). Maybe the Red Sox have to throw in a little bit of money for the Sox to give up Santos back, I don't know, but there is some wiggle room there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 2 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said: Jim Bowden hypothetical trade! Dylan Cease to BOS for Marcelo Mayer, Wikelman Gonzalez, Jarren Duran 🤔 Lol so Jim Bowden, the guy who just a month ago proposed Cease to Reds for Jonathan India and Ty Floyd (Reds #12 prospect and no where near the top 100) is now saying Cease is worth Mayer (Red Sox #1, #11 overall) + Winkleman (BOS #9) and Duran (Better than India, 2 more years of control). Ok, Jim. 🤷 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 (edited) 15 minutes ago, ChiliIrishHammock24 said: Thanks. The Sox would basically be replacing Liam's contract with Jansen's while *buying* a top prospect like Rafaela (if we're comparing it to the MLB.com deal). Maybe the Red Sox have to throw in a little bit of money for the Sox to give up Santos back, I don't know, but there is some wiggle room there. I thought it was solid as well. I think your proposals are always reasonable. But please just once, for old times sake, can you put on the nicknaming hat and give one of our players a new nickname? I'm serious. Edited January 9 by ron883 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowy Demon Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 8 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said: Jim Bowden hypothetical trade! Dylan Cease to BOS for Marcelo Mayer, Wikelman Gonzalez, Jarren Duran 🤔 "Jim Bowden is a former baseball executive that I am so glad that he is not the GM of my favorite team." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 Lots of good information in this article. https://www.nj.com/yankees/2024/01/yankees-brass-in-tampa-for-summit-that-may-lead-to-blake-snell-signing-dylan-cease-trade.html?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=njsports_sf&utm_content=nj_twitter_njsports 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 11 minutes ago, fathom said: Lots of good information in this article. https://www.nj.com/yankees/2024/01/yankees-brass-in-tampa-for-summit-that-may-lead-to-blake-snell-signing-dylan-cease-trade.html?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=njsports_sf&utm_content=nj_twitter_njsports Thanks for sharing. Sounds like we could possibly see a trade soon, if this Yankees meeting yesterday meant anything. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 11 minutes ago, fathom said: Lots of good information in this article. https://www.nj.com/yankees/2024/01/yankees-brass-in-tampa-for-summit-that-may-lead-to-blake-snell-signing-dylan-cease-trade.html?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=njsports_sf&utm_content=nj_twitter_njsports Orioles’ fans won’t be happy… The Yankees are going to end up pulling the trigger eventually if Elias continues to hoard all three of his position prospects behind Holliday. Even then, none of those guys are better than Jones or Dominguez…and it seems highly unlikely Elias will offer up 2/3 or that Getz would accept just one and a bunch of Tier B’s aggregated together. In the end, Snell’s numbers outside the two Cy years, his high pitch counts being quite similar to Cease and almost never pitching beyond the 6th not to mention those walks and unsustainably low numbers with RISP against him. Thankfully NYY seem to have permanently pushed Montgomery away by benching him from the 2022 playoff rotation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 I thought it was interesting that the Sox “believe” they can get better prospects than the Orioles. If Jones and Hampton are on the table, then they must have some inclination that the Orioles are willing to offer a strong package. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 Yanks can't get it done without Spencer Jones imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 36 minutes ago, fathom said: Lots of good information in this article. https://www.nj.com/yankees/2024/01/yankees-brass-in-tampa-for-summit-that-may-lead-to-blake-snell-signing-dylan-cease-trade.html?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=njsports_sf&utm_content=nj_twitter_njsports You're right really interesting info. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiddleCoastBias Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 10 minutes ago, fathom said: I thought it was interesting that the Sox “believe” they can get better prospects than the Orioles. If Jones and Hampton are on the table, then they must have some inclination that the Orioles are willing to offer a strong package. My biggest takeaway was this quote, emphasis added: "Can the Yankees acquire Cease without giving up one of their two highest-ranked prospects, center fielders Spencer Jones and Jasson Dominguez? Dominguez won’t be moved and the Yankees want to keep Jones." Interesting (and possibly pointed) use of won't and want here, signaling the Yankees acknowledge they may have to grin and bear it to include Jones if they really want Cease. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 5 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: Yanks can't get it done without Spencer Jones imo. Hopefully, either one of the teams break soon and include one of those top prospects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 9 Author Share Posted January 9 16 minutes ago, fathom said: Lots of good information in this article. https://www.nj.com/yankees/2024/01/yankees-brass-in-tampa-for-summit-that-may-lead-to-blake-snell-signing-dylan-cease-trade.html?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=njsports_sf&utm_content=nj_twitter_njsports Wow…tons of good stuff in there. Definitely feels like the Yankees would need to offer Jones, Hampton, & one other decent piece (plus maybe a lottery ticket). I’d be very curious what Getz would be targeting in the Orioles system if he can get a better return than that. I get that Spencer Jones is about as high variance as prospects come, but I’d take him over anyone in the Orioles system not in their top 5. The Orioles don’t have a pitching prospect as good as Hampton if that is super important and I’d probably take him over anyone not in their top five. Realistically, I don’t see the O’s doing more than one of Kjerstad / Cowser, one of Ortiz / Norby, and a non-Hall pitching prospect. Is that actually better than what the Yankees could offer if they included a decent 3rd prospect? The best part of that article and the one thing we know to be factually true is that Cashman has his lieutenants are down in Tampa right now to discuss how to augment their pitching staff. And it seem readily apparent that they don’t want to be left empty handed when it comes to adding a top-end starter before the season. This should hopefully create a sense of urgency, especially if they don’t feel Snell or Montgomery will work for them, to push for Cease resolution in the next couple of weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 15 minutes ago, fathom said: I thought it was interesting that the Sox “believe” they can get better prospects than the Orioles. If Jones and Hampton are on the table, then they must have some inclination that the Orioles are willing to offer a strong package. They “could” get a better package from the Orioles because they have the better prospects, but unless Elias flinches at some point, I wouldn’t be upset by a Jones/Hampton package. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 9 Author Share Posted January 9 18 minutes ago, fathom said: I thought it was interesting that the Sox “believe” they can get better prospects than the Orioles. If Jones and Hampton are on the table, then they must have some inclination that the Orioles are willing to offer a strong package. My thoughts exactly, but what would you consider a strong offer from the Orioles? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 7 minutes ago, ptatc said: You're right really interesting info. Thanks. How can we get Randy Miller hired to the Chicago media? The guy has covered more interesting Sox info in this one article than our local scrubs have all offseason. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 9 Author Share Posted January 9 11 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: Yanks can't get it done without Spencer Jones imo. Would they really let him hold up a Cease deal? I get the ceiling is through the roof, but the bust potential is massive and they already have a completely full OF of impact talent if they can retain Soto long-term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 Spencer Jones terrifies me. I don't trust the White Sox at all with prospects that have a questionable hit tool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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