WhiteSox2023 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: You guys wanted a first baseman for Cease? Thank you. This is the Cubs effect. Busch is better now that the Cubs acquired him. 🤣 Edited January 13 by WhiteSox2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 17 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: Thank you. This is the Cubs effect. Busch is better now that the Cubs acquired him. 🤣 Posters here wanted Busch before he was dealt. And before the Rays got Glasnow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 27 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: You guys wanted a first baseman for Cease? I’d prefer the orioles, Red Sox or Yankees. But we apparently aren’t getting an offer from those teams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 I wonder why we aren't seeing Bradfield's name in any proposals. Seems like an ideal target in a trade package. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 26 minutes ago, DirtySox said: I wonder why we aren't seeing Bradfield's name in any proposals. Seems like an ideal target in a trade package. I’d love him. I just think he’s too much for a third piece and not enough for a 2nd piece. maybe a “quantity offer” of westburg, bradfield, beavers and horvath would work. if they don’t wanna deal one of the OF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 (edited) 5 hours ago, WestEddy said: No, I guess the "not being honest" and "give me some of what you're smoking" comments just rubbed me the wrong way. And I don't even consider recognizing that 2024 could contain more wins than 2023 to be all that positive. My point is that NOT being negative gets one jumped on. Lots of stuff gets you jumped on, LOL. Balta is the king of being jumped on . I've had my fair share too but I get proved right often enough that it doesn't phase me much . There isn't any right or wrong in how optimistic or pessimistic one can feel when it comes to your favorite sports team. Hey if someone says they want some of what you're smoking look at it this way. They want to be optimistic too and if what you're smoking can do it , they will take that high to feel good. Edited January 13 by CaliSoxFanViaSWside 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 1 hour ago, Bob Sacamano said: Posters here wanted Busch before he was dealt. And before the Rays got Glasnow. Dodgers acquired Glasnow... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 1 hour ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: You guys wanted a first baseman for Cease? I’ve said all along I want the best players, regardless of position or righty/lefty. They have so many holes, I don’t think anyone is actually blocked (since we don’t know where Montgomery will play). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 5 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said: Well, we know that the owner in this case is neutering his GM. Hahn was obviously not the best GM but it was also obvious he wanted to do more than Jerry let him. I think that makes him an even worse GM than many thought. He was with the Sox for how many years? And he still couldn't operate within Jerry's budget or rules or whatever you want to call it. I hate how Getz was handed the position, but I am hopeful that he at least can operate within the restrictions Jerry imposes. We really won't know for at least another year or so though because this roster is largely still the leftovers from Hahn and KW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 (edited) 3 hours ago, fathom said: I’ve said all along I want the best players, regardless of position or righty/lefty. They have so many holes, I don’t think anyone is actually blocked (since we don’t know where Montgomery will play). But now you are sweating a 1B/DH that went to the Cubs for much less then Cease? If Busch doesn’t hit for the Cubs in the majors almost immediately, he’s done. He can’t play defense. How does Busch have anything to do with Colson Montgomery playing either SS or 3B? Busch couldn’t play either of those positions. But regardless of this reasoning, Busch is the guy you wanted in return for Cease, when the Sox aren’t going to be ready to compete for anything in the next couple years at the very least? Edited January 13 by WhiteSox2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 2 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said: But now you are sweating a 1B/DH that went to the Cubs for much less then Cease? If Busch doesn’t hit for the Cubs in the majors almost immediately, he’s done. He can’t play defense. How does Busch have anything to do with Colson Montgomery playing either SS or 3B? Busch couldn’t play either of those positions. But regardless of this reasoning, Busch is the guy you wanted in return for Cease, when the Sox aren’t going to be ready to compete for anything in the next couple years at the very least? They simply need a cheap/young DH/1B who can hit better than Jimenez and Sheets, .850-.900 and ideally non platoon or at least LH…that seems relatively simple. But he should never be the key piece to any trade, for Cease and certainly not Robert. Always better to start from the middle of the diamond and push out rather than starting with corners in mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 3 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said: But now you are sweating a 1B/DH that went to the Cubs for much less then Cease? If Busch doesn’t hit for the Cubs in the majors almost immediately, he’s done. He can’t play defense. How does Busch have anything to do with Colson Montgomery playing either SS or 3B? Busch couldn’t play either of those positions. But regardless of this reasoning, Busch is the guy you wanted in return for Cease, when the Sox aren’t going to be ready to compete for anything in the next couple years at the very least? No, I said Busch and someone like Sheehan or Stone and another prospect instead of settling for a lesser package from the Orioles, if they refuse to give up their guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 10 hours ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: I think Cease is the Opening Day starter before Getz takes a light return. Are you predicting light return based on your projection of how he'll look, or the front office not get fair market value, or a combination of both? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 7 hours ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: Balta is the king of being jumped on . The real King of getting jumped on enters room. And don't tell have vapes up north? Smoking? That's like from the I don't care about stats I just want to see the guy era. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 38 minutes ago, fathom said: No, I said Busch and someone like Sheehan or Stone and another prospect instead of settling for a lesser package from the Orioles, if they refuse to give up their guys. The Dodgers weren't willing to add a high end pitcher along with Busch. Maybe now that Busch is off the table they can offer something that looks a little different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 4 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: The Dodgers weren't willing to add a high end pitcher along with Busch. Maybe now that Busch is off the table they can offer something that looks a little different. Is it speculation or are the Dodgers actually still in the mix? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pale Sox Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 50 minutes ago, Texsox said: Are you predicting light return based on your projection of how he'll look, or the front office not get fair market value, or a combination of both? I think you misread. he’s saying it’s more likely cease sticks around and starts the season with the team than it is he takes a light return. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 31 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: Is it speculation or are the Dodgers actually still in the mix? I don't think you can ever count the Dodgers as being out. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 33 minutes ago, Pale Sox said: I think you misread. he’s saying it’s more likely cease sticks around and starts the season with the team than it is he takes a light return. Thank you. I have a MA in reading s%*# and totally misread the post. Lol I took it to mean a mid season trade for less than the blockbuster were hoping for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ChiSox59 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 I for one am happy the Sox didn’t trade for Michael Busch. Would have been a very underwhelming primary offensive piece. I’d prefer both of Bradfield / Beavers honestly. While I wouldn’t love a quantity deal for Cease but Westburg + Beavers + Bradfield + a pitcher would be interesting and could age really well. But certainly not ready to pull the trigger on something like that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 17 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said: Yeah, he was actually good. It’s too bad the trade return for him looks so bad now. They couldn’t even trust Korey Lee to be a backup catcher apparently. 8 holds and 4 blown saves is a low bar for your rating of good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 (edited) 2 hours ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: The Dodgers weren't willing to add a high end pitcher along with Busch. Maybe now that Busch is off the table they can offer something that looks a little different. Now that Busch is Ferris, perhaps the Dodgers can offer a different Busch and Ferris. I also wouldn't mind an old-fashioned baseball trade; Boston comes to mind. Not overly confident that the Sox can ever build this thing from the ground up (lack of infrastructure, international investment, etc.) Edited January 13 by GreenSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 1 hour ago, ChiSox59 said: I for one am happy the Sox didn’t trade for Michael Busch. Would have been a very underwhelming primary offensive piece. I’d prefer both of Bradfield / Beavers honestly. While I wouldn’t love a quantity deal for Cease but Westburg + Beavers + Bradfield + a pitcher would be interesting and could age really well. But certainly not ready to pull the trigger on something like that. I'm with you. Even if it's a lesser quality hitter, if he add defense it's a better acquisition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 43 minutes ago, poppysox said: 8 holds and 4 blown saves is a low bar for your rating of good. He’s not made for closing but he’s a good setup man. Good enough that a team much better than our Sox brought him back for their playoff run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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