Chicago White Sox Posted February 25 Author Share Posted February 25 Just go with Arias, Hampton, Lalane, & Rice. Timeline wise, it probably pushes out legit competitiveness another year, but that probably happens anyways if you assume Robert is dealt next off-season for prospects. Regardless, it’s hard to see a better package than that without holding Cease into the season and it’s very possible that Arias & Lalane’s stock has skyrocketed five months from now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 1 hour ago, Chicago White Sox said: What is this from? Nightengale Law's write-up on Jones, who is not in his top 100, makes him seem like the next Palka. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 4 hours ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: We need one of NYY SPers to get hurt in ST to force the issue or for Rodon to look like s%*# again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 Jones hitting a 470 foot homer doesn’t help 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 4 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said: Just go with Arias, Hampton, Lalane, & Rice. Timeline wise, it probably pushes out legit competitiveness another year, but that probably happens anyways if you assume Robert is dealt next off-season for prospects. Regardless, it’s hard to see a better package than that without holding Cease into the season and it’s very possible that Arias & Lalane’s stock has skyrocketed five months from now. I’d rather just see what happens next couple months than take that deal. It’s fine, but I’m certain Getz wants more and he should. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 4 hours ago, ChiSox59 said: I’d rather just see what happens next couple months than take that deal. It’s fine, but I’m certain Getz wants more and he should. Eh, I really think Getz is starting to overplay his hand with this. Dylan Cease has had 1 very good season with a bunch of inconsistent ones. This is not trading Chris Sale 2.0 - there is much more risk to this the longer the Sox hold onto him. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Soxfan Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 No settling. Need a high end player over depth. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 22 minutes ago, CWSpalehoseCWS said: Eh, I really think Getz is starting to overplay his hand with this. Dylan Cease has had 1 very good season with a bunch of inconsistent ones. This is not trading Chris Sale 2.0 - there is much more risk to this the longer the Sox hold onto him. I think that's what Boras is experiencing now with Jordan Montgomery (recent results not obscuring a relatively pedestrian career overall, 4+ ERA, etc.)...obviously Cease has the stuff/K's and durability, but he's suffering as well from high pitch counts and not providing extended innings. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 2 hours ago, CWSpalehoseCWS said: Eh, I really think Getz is starting to overplay his hand with this. Dylan Cease has had 1 very good season with a bunch of inconsistent ones. This is not trading Chris Sale 2.0 - there is much more risk to this the longer the Sox hold onto him. Sox can’t afford to not get a high impact offensive piece for Cease. Neither of us know exactly what had been offered so it’s tough to say if he’s overplaying his hand, but I’m glad he hasn’t settled. The offer I quoted is settling imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 I really haven't watched this thread or generally follow trade rumors, but would there be any interest by the Cubs, Toronto, Seattle or the Giants for Cease and Moncada with the Sox eating a good portion/most/all the (to the Sox a sunk cost) money and picking up a solid package Getz has not been able to get with Cease alone? I understand most of the board is down on Moncada, but he would be an decent upgrade for the teams listed, in addition to Cease. I thought there was a possibility this offseason, which may come to fruition in July, that Jerry would have Getz get what prospects he can pairing dead contract money (Moncada, perhaps Benintendi depending on what Jerry are willing to eat). Hopefully they will continue down the reported path of maximizing prospect return vs. maximizing profit return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehugeunit Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 13 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said: Just go with Arias, Hampton, Lalane, & Rice. Timeline wise, it probably pushes out legit competitiveness another year, but that probably happens anyways if you assume Robert is dealt next off-season for prospects. Regardless, it’s hard to see a better package than that without holding Cease into the season and it’s very possible that Arias & Lalane’s stock has skyrocketed five months from now. There's no chance cashman trades Arias. I think you could pry LaLane from them though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted February 26 Author Share Posted February 26 4 minutes ago, thehugeunit said: There's no chance cashman trades Arias. I think you could pry LaLane from them though. Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 1 hour ago, South Side Hit Men said: I really haven't watched this thread or generally follow trade rumors, but would there be any interest by the Cubs, Toronto, Seattle or the Giants for Cease and Moncada with the Sox eating a good portion/most/all the (to the Sox a sunk cost) money and picking up a solid package Getz has not been able to get with Cease alone? I understand most of the board is down on Moncada, but he would be an decent upgrade for the teams listed, in addition to Cease. I thought there was a possibility this offseason, which may come to fruition in July, that Jerry would have Getz get what prospects he can pairing dead contract money (Moncada, perhaps Benintendi depending on what Jerry are willing to eat). Hopefully they will continue down the reported path of maximizing prospect return vs. maximizing profit return. Moncada would have to be hitting 875-900 and healthy for at least 2 or 2 1/2 months to stimulate serious interest. JR isn't going to sign off on eating $20-22 million all in one check (don't forget $5 million 2025 buyout) if you were trying to trade him along with Cease. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehugeunit Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 8 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said: Why? He's their prize of the farm. Should be a top 10 prospect this time next year. Mayea could be had. He's got a great skillet too, just not to the point of Arias. Arias is the yankees best prospect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted February 28 Author Share Posted February 28 Probably a big nothing but would theoretically would be good for a Cease trade market: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 17 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said: Probably a big nothing but would theoretically would be good for a Cease trade market: Cubs already right up on luxury tax threshold now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 29 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: Cubs already right up on luxury tax threshold now. plus do we think they even still have any old, marginal prospects to trade after we raided that cupboard this weekend? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 23 minutes ago, bmags said: plus do we think they even still have any old, marginal prospects to trade after we raided that cupboard this weekend? Is Cody Heuer still there so we can trade back for him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 23 minutes ago, bmags said: plus do we think they even still have any old, marginal prospects to trade after we raided that cupboard this weekend? Heard Karchner is still pretty good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 3 hours ago, Bob Sacamano said: Is Cody Heuer still there so we can trade back for him? I was talking about him with friends yesterday he would be a good pickup by the Sox. The Cubs non tendered him after the season. Boston has interest in him, the only article I could find about his current status via search. https://www.si.com/mlb/cubs/news/boston-red-sox-interest-codi-heuer-former-chicago-cubs-reliever-matt9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 With the Giants signing Matt Chapman to a *potential* 1 year deal (opt outs), I wonder if they might want to go all-in on Cease with Beck out now. 🤷 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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caulfield12 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 On 3/4/2024 at 11:50 PM, Whisox05 said: Oh no, here we go again with the Orioles message board invasion for six weeks in June/July... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WBWSF Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 A few years ago I wrote JR a letter requesting to be interviewed for the GM job. I thought Hahn was going to get fired. He was fired years later. JR didn't respond to me. Matter of fact he hasn't responded to any of my other letter after that. Its really a shame I'm not the GM. Teams are not willing to give a ton of players for Cease. Looks like he's staying with the White Sox. If I was the GM I would try to sign Cease to a long term contract. He's only 28 years old. If this team is ever going to sign a pitcher to a long term contract Cease should be the one. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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