Quin Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 3 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Making excuses to Getz dumping guys for nothing he couldn't develop in his former role is a choice. Can't fail at developing prospects if you get rid of them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 1 minute ago, Quin said: Can't fail at developing prospects if you get rid of them. A good way to protect his resume. 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 $$$ JR likes/loves this thread. White Sox like a bloated, has been mutual fund company churning the portfolio while desperately chasing returns at the end of the quarter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4OCS Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 What does cash considerations even mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 46 minutes ago, 4OCS said: What does cash considerations even mean? Free soft drinks in the clubhouse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 9 hours ago, The Beast said: Free soft drinks in the clubhouse. But the knock-off brands. Dr. Thunder, Mountain Mist, Sprint Lemon, Fantuz Orange... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 12 hours ago, 4OCS said: What does cash considerations even mean? It is a trade that takes place for a minimal amount of cash. Anything over one million dollars has to go to the commish's office for approval, so it is automatically less than that. Typically it is a very small amount just so that they can call it a "trade", maybe in the thousands, but as low as literally a dollar. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 So we now have two older prospects who Sox scouts viewed as ready for the big leagues already discarded a month later. Inspiring. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 17 minutes ago, bmags said: So we now have two older prospects who Sox scouts viewed as ready for the big leagues already discarded a month later. Inspiring. We traded someone who wasn't on our 40-man to help another team's 40-man crunch. What a waste. Matthew Thompson will probably be nothing but still. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 18 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: We traded someone who wasn't on our 40-man to help another team's 40-man crunch. What a waste. Matthew Thompson will probably be nothing but still. A 23 year old SP prospect, ya know, the kind of player a rebuilding team should be hoarding not discarding. Thompson: 2.77 ERA in AA currently. Horn: Given away for practically nothing one month into the season after putting up an 11 ERA in AAA. Mena: 4.03 ERA in AAA currently. Fletcher: Demoted one month into the season after being unable to play defense or hit. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 2 minutes ago, T R U said: A 23 year old SP prospect, ya know, the kind of player a rebuilding team should be hoarding not discarding. Thompson: 2.77 ERA in AA currently. Horn: Given away for practically nothing one month into the season after putting up an 11 ERA in AAA. Mena: 4.03 ERA in AAA currently. Fletcher: Demoted one month into the season after being unable to play defense or hit. White Sox: 23rd oldest average age in baseball, oldest in division. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 5 minutes ago, T R U said: A 23 year old SP prospect, ya know, the kind of player a rebuilding team should be hoarding not discarding. Thompson: 2.77 ERA in AA currently. Horn: Given away for practically nothing one month into the season after putting up an 11 ERA in AAA. Mena: 4.03 ERA in AAA currently. Fletcher: Demoted one month into the season after being unable to play defense or hit. All to get 35 year old veterans on the team so we can win 55 games instead of 50 this year, and still pick 10th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 49 minutes ago, bmags said: So we now have two older prospects who Sox scouts viewed as ready for the big leagues already discarded a month later. Inspiring. and we traded a 21 year old SP for an older prospect who has been demoted within a month.. Gotta love it, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 3 minutes ago, Quin said: White Sox: 23rd oldest average age in baseball, oldest in division. The correct way to rebuild. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 3 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: All to get 35 year old veterans on the team so we can win 55 games instead of 50 this year, and still pick 10th. The only thing that makes sense to me is Getz actually believed the moves he made this off-season would have this team competitive this year in the division. As soon as the season started off as bad as it possibly could, he pivoted to "rebuilding". They never once talked about rebuilding in the off-season, they flat out said they weren't going to do that and they believed they could compete now. The Mena trade aligns with that, the Thompson trade aligns with that. Moves made to help the MLB roster now. I honestly believe that now, he really thought that signing some washed defensive players would turn this around over night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted May 1 Author Share Posted May 1 14 hours ago, Quin said: Ok, I can't remember. Was Matthew Thompson on the 40-man roster? Cause if not, it means we ultimately gave up a starting pitching prospect — who is of course now putting up better numbers with the Cubs AA team (yes, SSS) — for cash. I am certainly not in support of how Getz has managed the roster, but Thompson still sucks. 1.4 WHIP and 7.2 BB/9 (SSS, but highest of career) just isn't going to play. Guy can't throw a strike to save his life. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 Just now, ChiSox59 said: I am certainly not in support of how Getz has managed the roster, but Thompson still sucks. 1.4 WHIP and 7.2 BB/9 (SSS, but highest of career) just isn't going to play. Guy can't throw a strike to save his life. I would still rather have him on our AA or AAA roster as opposed to cash considerations though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted May 1 Author Share Posted May 1 Just now, T R U said: I would still rather have him on our AA or AAA roster as opposed to cash considerations though. No argument from me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 7 minutes ago, T R U said: The only thing that makes sense to me is Getz actually believed the moves he made this off-season would have this team competitive this year in the division. As soon as the season started off as bad as it possibly could, he pivoted to "rebuilding". They never once talked about rebuilding in the off-season, they flat out said they weren't going to do that and they believed they could compete now. The Mena trade aligns with that, the Thompson trade aligns with that. Moves made to help the MLB roster now. I honestly believe that now, he really thought that signing some washed defensive players would turn this around over night. Only a complete moron didn't know we were going to rebuild. They didn't say it out loud, but it is happening and always was. I can believe they were aiming more in the 90 loss range than the 140 loss range, and panicked once it happened, but they knew the future was not 2024. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 4 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Only a complete moron didn't know we were going to rebuild. They didn't say it out loud, but it is happening and always was. I can believe they were aiming more in the 90 loss range than the 140 loss range, and panicked once it happened, but they knew the future was not 2024. Of course, 95% of us knew this. I still believe that Getz thought the roster he put together would be WAY closer than what has happened so far. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 37 minutes ago, T R U said: A 23 year old SP prospect, ya know, the kind of player a rebuilding team should be hoarding not discarding. Matt Thompson really isn't a "prospect". With Thorpe, Iriarte, Bush, Eder and Adams in the AA rotation, which one do you bump to get Thompson starts? Thompson, if he stayed with the Sox, was probably bullpen fodder to see if he could throw strikes in shorter outings. The Sox are hoarding that kind of player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 3 minutes ago, WestEddy said: Matt Thompson really isn't a "prospect". With Thorpe, Iriarte, Bush, Eder and Adams in the AA rotation, which one do you bump to get Thompson starts? Thompson, if he stayed with the Sox, was probably bullpen fodder to see if he could throw strikes in shorter outings. The Sox are hoarding that kind of player. He's for sure a prospect, not a top one, but a prospect none the less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan99 Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 3 minutes ago, WestEddy said: Matt Thompson really isn't a "prospect". With Thorpe, Iriarte, Bush, Eder and Adams in the AA rotation, which one do you bump to get Thompson starts? Thompson, if he stayed with the Sox, was probably bullpen fodder to see if he could throw strikes in shorter outings. The Sox are hoarding that kind of player. Then have him get starts in AAA over worthless arms like Kuhl or Woodford who have zero chance of ever being part of a decent team, let alone a White Sox team capable of competing. Our AAA pitching staff is full of worthless garbage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 11 minutes ago, WestEddy said: Matt Thompson really isn't a "prospect". With Thorpe, Iriarte, Bush, Eder and Adams in the AA rotation, which one do you bump to get Thompson starts? Thompson, if he stayed with the Sox, was probably bullpen fodder to see if he could throw strikes in shorter outings. The Sox are hoarding that kind of player. Look I have no problem with the idea that you can deal Thompson if you using all of that internal knowledge, feel like you can't get out of him what you need to turn him into something. What I have a problem with is turning him into literally nothing. Nothing. Because you do need to be hording future pieces, and not 35 year old OFs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 53 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: All to get 35 year old veterans on the team so we can win 55 games instead of 50 this year, and still pick 10th. Man, 55 wins is optimistic. Sox would have to win more than six games per month to accomplish that feat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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