southsider2k5 Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 5 minutes ago, Tony said: Wait, we talking Schriffin or Getz? Why not both? 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 Adam Amin drives me nuts. No more clown types please. I am not here for a comedy routine I am here to watch a baseball game. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeC Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 2 hours ago, chitownsportsfan said: Adam Amin drives me nuts. No more clown types please. I am not here for a comedy routine I am here to watch a baseball game. To paraphrase Derek Zoolander, "but why White Sox baseball?" 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 (edited) 6 hours ago, WestEddy said: He has this lilt to his voice, where his tone curves up then down, like he's trying to force the excitement, brag about a solo HR to break up a shutout, 7-1. He brings nothing to the broadcast. The facts and insight, any of us could read off of a sheet. Benetti has the voice, knowledge, can speak to the moment. He's corny, but I found him very listenable. Schriffen is none of that. Or calling 450 foot homers like they are wall-scrapers. 🤣 Amazing that Jerry was apparently concerned with how Benetti ate a Campfire Shake during the broadcast but he doesn’t care how clueless Schriffen makes himself look on a daily basis as long as he bows to the great Stone Pony. The guy made a joke about smoking a glizzy at both ends along with Bacon, a la “Lady and the Tramp”. WTF?!? Edited September 19 by WhiteSox2023 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kba Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 Jeff Agrest is absolutely right about Schiffren's lack of preparation. Baseball is a slow sport, and an announcer has to come prepared each day with new things to fill the time - or be such a good communicator that they can just pull interesting things out of their head. Hawk could tell old-time stories, Benetti has his corny jokes and is fluent with advanced stats, Kasper seems to bring something novel to every broadcast, like a recent game when he and D.J. spent a half inning chatting about how today's players have dozens of pairs of spikes, while players in D.J.'s day wore the same couple of pairs for months. Kasper had talked with the clubhouse manager before the game to get some actual numbers on how many shoes the team had gone through. Schiffren has gotten better, but he still doesn't seem to bring much to the broadcast except some predictable quotes from the previous day's postgame press conference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinky Stanky Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 6 hours ago, Friend of Nordhagen said: Schriff is better than last year, and I think he's put in a lot more work, but he's still pretty unlistenable. But Agrest is wrong that "sac fly RBI" is redundant. There are sac flies that advance runners without scoring them. Also, his mention of Boog Sciambi as a gold standard doesn't resonate a whole lot with me. One's mileage may vary, of course, but I find Sciambi to be cookie-cutter boring. Someone in this thread mentioned Amin, and he's excellent. We had a guy kinda like that (yes, I know his humor was not appreciated by some on the board), and let him walk. The sac fly difference is that when it scores a runner you get credit for a sac fly in the box score and it doesn’t count as an at bat! Just like a sac bunt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nrockway Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 5 hours ago, chitownsportsfan said: Adam Amin drives me nuts. No more clown types please. I am not here for a comedy routine I am here to watch a baseball game. Amin is much worse than Schriff tbh... which hasn't really been a topic of discussion (why would the bulls be I guess). I can't stand the dude. He's OK at football. But imagine missing Neil Funk, which I do. His s%*# talk homerism was actually funny. That bit about Kwame Brown's tiny hands is pure gold. So what if he couldn't tell the difference between Carlos Boozer and Taj Gibson...it was endearing. Neil mediated a lot of Stacey King's absurdity now he has free reign to say whatever bozo nonsense. It's like if Steve Stone suddenly became a grifter. Adam is just like "yeah dude, promote your kyle korver hot sauce brand and podcast, i love that, i also don't know anything about the sport i'm commentating on". IDK why they hired either one of these dudes. Benetti filling in for Bulls game was actually awesome. I didn't love his Sox tenure, but the guy is just a good announcer. I thought he was better with the Bulls. I think he's not so good at baseball because he has too much free time to tell his bad jokes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 2 hours ago, kba said: Jeff Agrest is absolutely right about Schiffren's lack of preparation. Baseball is a slow sport, and an announcer has to come prepared each day with new things to fill the time - or be such a good communicator that they can just pull interesting things out of their head. Hawk could tell old-time stories, Benetti has his corny jokes and is fluent with advanced stats, Kasper seems to bring something novel to every broadcast, like a recent game when he and D.J. spent a half inning chatting about how today's players have dozens of pairs of spikes, while players in D.J.'s day wore the same couple of pairs for months. Kasper had talked with the clubhouse manager before the game to get some actual numbers on how many shoes the team had gone through. Schiffren has gotten better, but he still doesn't seem to bring much to the broadcast except some predictable quotes from the previous day's postgame press conference. I’ve noticed that Jeff Agrest is the best journalist in Chicago. He’s probably making chump change with the Sun Times but everything he publishes is dead on. From calling out the morons on WSCR 670 The Score like Riordan and Bernstein to asking why Schriffen even has a job. Dude is spot on, all the time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 LOL. New nickname… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 Schiff keeps repeating/recycling the same supposed insights. Did you know Miguel Vargas had a dramatic swing change on April 23rd? We heard it at least one hundred times this year...but why not THEN looking into why he sort of plateaued in the middle of the season and what he was doing to react to changes in the way they were pitching him? Sox hunting fastballs after the Tauchman initiated team meeting...okay, now what after the scouting reports have called for more off speed stuff early in counts? He definitely is more relaxed when Stone is away from the booth. About the only really good joke he made recently was about Stone not having to pay much (if at all) for crab cakes in Baltimore when he had a long consecutive scoreless innings streak going. At least no Playgirl appearance jokes with Stone Pony. Way too much selling the team and fake excitement and overreacting to things playoff teams routinely do on an everyday basis. How about more asking around why the Sox have been terrible holding runners the last two decades? No we get more Quero leads the AL with five pickoffs stats. Well then why does he only have a 0.1 or 0.2 fWAR if he's such a good catcher? Framing? Pitch calling? Leadership? Gamesmanship like AJ used to get into the heads of opposing teams? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxrwhite Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 15 hours ago, The Mighty Mite said: Not much to argue about with that review. We also need new guys when Stone is taking time off, Beckham is horrible and Plesac is a clown. Those two sentances hit the nail on the head. Even better let Stone go completeley. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tray Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 (edited) What difference does it make to anyone who the play-by-play announcer is as long as he/she has a baseline of competence, which Schriff has? Agrest nit picking that Schriff is too positive? That's a joke. Come on, being positive and entertaining viewers with more than just the call and stats is a major part of his job. Otherwise, the daily play-by-play grind with baseball talk and stats can get boring to viewers. Some viewers prefer a light hearted announcing style . Maybe a certain demographic group relates with an announcer like Schriff where others don't. That's OK but so what? Beckham in one broadcast tried to mock Schriff and hang him out to dry not knowing Gordo's walkup song, while Schriff continued on, unaware. After that went on for too long Schriff asked Gordon why he did that and Gordo had nothing to say and no apology. Gordon showed himself to be a jerk and I suspect doesn't like the guy. Tolerance of others who are different is something that is in short supply in our country. Maybe that pertains to some extent here. Edited September 19 by tray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 54 minutes ago, tray said: What difference does it make to anyone who the play-by-play announcer is as long as he/she has a baseline of competence, which Schriff has? Agrest nit picking that Schriff is too positive? That's a joke. Come on, being positive and entertaining viewers with more than just the call and stats is a major part of his job. Otherwise, the daily play-by-play grind with baseball talk and stats can get boring to viewers. Some viewers prefer a light hearted announcing style . Maybe a certain demographic group relates with an announcer like Schriff where others don't. That's OK but so what? Beckham in one broadcast tried to mock Schriff and hang him out to dry not knowing Gordo's walkup song, while Schriff continued on, unaware. After that went on for too long Schriff asked Gordon why he did that and Gordo had nothing to say and no apology. Gordon showed himself to be a jerk and I suspect doesn't like the guy. Tolerance of others who are different is something that is in short supply in our country. Maybe that pertains to some extent here. This is like saying "what difference does it make to anyone if Martin Perez is pitching for the White Sox, or Garret Crochet? They both are pitchers who throw left handed." People are play-by-play announcers for a living, people are baseball players for a living. There are different levels of quality among them, which can often be the difference in them being great at their job, or...not so great. 2 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 20 minutes ago, tray said: What difference does it make to anyone who the play-by-play announcer is as long as he/she has a baseline of competence, which Schriff has? Agrest nit picking that Schriff is too positive? That's a joke. Come on, being positive and entertaining viewers with more than just the call and stats is a major part of his job. Otherwise, the daily play-by-play grind with baseball talk and stats can get boring to viewers. Some viewers prefer a light hearted announcing style . Maybe a certain demographic group relates with an announcer like Schriff where others don't. That's OK but so what? Beckham in one broadcast tried to mock Schriff and hang him out to dry not knowing Gordo's walkup song, while Schriff continued on, unaware. After that went on for too long Schriff asked Gordon why he did that and Gordo had nothing to say and no apology. Gordon showed himself to be a jerk and I suspect doesn't like the guy. Tolerance of others who are different is something that is in short supply in our country. Maybe that pertains to some extent here. Totally agree buddy. Spot on 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 46 minutes ago, Tony said: This is like saying "what difference does it make to anyone if Martin Perez is pitching for the White Sox, or Garret Crochet? They both are pitchers who throw left handed." People are play-by-play announcers for a living, people are baseball players for a living. There are different levels of quality among them, which can often be the difference in them being great at their job, or...not so great. And I would argue that the initial premise that he knows what he is doing, is wrong. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tray Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 12 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: And I would argue that the initial premise that he knows what he is doing, is wrong. OK. that's your opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 Hopefully Conor McKnight gets the gig. Not sure if he is any good but in the short samples I've heard he's been fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tray Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 16 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said: Totally agree buddy. Spot on I stand by that comment after reading the absurd post your dredge up with falsehoods and absurd arguments. (like the streets are too narrow in Bridgeport for a new owner to want to build a stadium there). No matter, you wanted to levy a shot at me as you do at every turn. Meanwhile, I ignore everything you say here because of you attitude. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 5 minutes ago, tray said: OK. that's your opinion. Your entire post is your opinion. Maybe take your own advice on tolerance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 5 minutes ago, tray said: OK. that's your opinion. More like the majority opinion. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 1 minute ago, tray said: I stand by that comment after reading the absurd post your dredge up with falsehoods and absurd arguments. (like the streets are too narrow in Bridgeport for a new owner to want to build a stadium there). No matter, you wanted to levy a shot at me as you do at every turn. Meanwhile, I ignore everything you say here because of you attitude. . Dude I have never argued Bridgeport streets with you. Never once. you can ignore all of your own constant insults to everyone else, it’s fine. You always talk s%*# then call for civility for yourself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 4 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Your entire post is your opinion. Maybe take your own advice on tolerance. It's not his real opinion. Tray just takes the contrarian opinion whether he believes it or not. If the "Reinsdorf is a good owner" schtick didn't make people realize it, I don't know what will. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snopek Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 44 minutes ago, tray said: Agrest nit picking that Schriff is too positive? That's a joke. Come on, being positive and entertaining viewers with more than just the call and stats is a major part of his job. Being positive is fine, but there's a way to do it that feels authentic and not like you're being sold a defective product. He's improved since last season, but until he can do this effectively it'll remain a rough broadcast. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 19 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said: I missed the game in which Schriffen did the hot dog / “Lady and the Tramp” bit with Beckham referenced in the article… wow. 😲 Schriffen also said it to the same guy who drew a sentence with his foot in the infield to make fun of his former teammate Getz during his playing days. Obviously Schriffen probably didn’t even know that bit of Sox history but what an awkward joke to make regardless. I did see that live and it was Beckham that made that awkward in my opinion. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 How about starting with improving the product on the field? Then everyone can STAND UP!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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