Jordan4life_2007 Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 QUOTE (oldsox @ May 14, 2011 -> 10:01 PM) Rockies sent Ian Stewart down yesterday, so you are correct. Except the Rockies don't play him 162 games a year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 Not that Juan has been good defensively, but I just worry about an OF of Quentin, Viciedo, Rios. I wonder if there is any chance we could deal Quentin for a defensive stud in the OF....maybe the Angels would be willing to trade us Bourjos for Quentin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 QUOTE (iamshack @ May 14, 2011 -> 11:11 PM) Not that Juan has been good defensively, but I just worry about an OF of Quentin, Viciedo, Rios. I wonder if there is any chance we could deal Quentin for a defensive stud in the OF....maybe the Angels would be willing to trade us Bourjos for Quentin? I don't think there's any situation that could convince the Angels that they employ enough CF's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macsandz Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 As long as Pierre and AJ are any kind of core players on this squad the Sox will be the among the worst defensive teams in MLB. It's unreal just how bad those two are. Keep talking about how important defense is Ozzie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ May 15, 2011 -> 01:19 PM) As long as Pierre and AJ are any kind of core players on this squad the Sox will be the among the worst defensive teams in MLB. It's unreal just how bad those two are. Keep talking about how important defense is Ozzie. You've certainly done a 180 of late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ May 15, 2011 -> 02:22 PM) You've certainly done a 180 of late. So has Juan Pierre's defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 QUOTE (iamshack @ May 14, 2011 -> 10:11 PM) Not that Juan has been good defensively, but I just worry about an OF of Quentin, Viciedo, Rios. I wonder if there is any chance we could deal Quentin for a defensive stud in the OF....maybe the Angels would be willing to trade us Bourjos for Quentin? Bourjos is basically a faster Jacoby Ellsbury with more power potential. And he's going to be dirt cheap for a while. The Angels would laugh at that proposal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 Viciedo is getting called up tomorrow. I believe Teahen will be DL'd. It will be interesting to see how and if Ozzie uses him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ May 15, 2011 -> 12:24 PM) Bourjos is basically a faster Jacoby Ellsbury with more power potential. And he's going to be dirt cheap for a while. The Angels would laugh at that proposal. I suppose you're right, J....I didn't realize he slugs for .450 or so...probably because he legs out so many doubles and triples that would normally be singles and doubles. Bad idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 15, 2011 -> 01:30 PM) Viciedo is getting called up tomorrow. I believe Teahen will be DL'd. It will be interesting to see how and if Ozzie uses him. Really? Where did you hear this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 15, 2011 -> 01:30 PM) Viciedo is getting called up tomorrow. I believe Teahen will be DL'd. It will be interesting to see how and if Ozzie uses him. Who knows what Ozzie will do, but I wish he would start Viciedo in LF and bench Pierre. Let Omar start a lot more alternating between 2B and 3B as the leadoff man. When Omar is not starting, let either Ramirez or Rios lead off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 Please get him out of the lineup. His numbers don't even begin to illustrate how much he kills this team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 QUOTE (fathom @ May 15, 2011 -> 05:18 PM) Please get him out of the lineup. His numbers don't even begin to illustrate how much he kills this team. I think they illustrate it quite perfectly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 QUOTE (South Side Fireworks Man @ May 15, 2011 -> 01:58 PM) Who knows what Ozzie will do, but I wish he would start Viciedo in LF and bench Pierre. Let Omar start a lot more alternating between 2B and 3B as the leadoff man. When Omar is not starting, let either Ramirez or Rios lead off. Agree with this, although I'd use Omar more at 3B. We're going to need Beckham to come around if we want to make a comeback. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoedairy Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 (edited) I guess the point is moot because ozzie isnt likely to change but would anyone be in favor of Teahan in left field. He seems to be hitting pretty well when he plays. i dont know how much hes played lf though i guess if teahan is going to the dl then just move along Edited May 15, 2011 by joejoedairy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 QUOTE (South Side Fireworks Man @ May 15, 2011 -> 01:58 PM) Who knows what Ozzie will do, but I wish he would start Viciedo in LF and bench Pierre. Let Omar start a lot more alternating between 2B and 3B as the leadoff man. When Omar is not starting, let either Ramirez or Rios lead off. I can't see Vic getting little playing time or it would be best for him to be back in the minors. Who knows there may be another player that might be nursing an injury that could use some time off. Hopefully it's Pierre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiddleCoastBias Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 FWIW, just had a conversation with my "smart" Cubs fan friend, and he said that "now we now the Cubs' pain when they had Pierre", and he tried to argue how bad he was on the Cubs. It was embarrassing to have a discussion about how bad he really is for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 Ozzie today after game. “One thing about Juan.” Guillen said. “You’re going to see the same (effort Monday night). He’s going to go out and play the game, play the game right. When you play every day, you’re going to go through tough times. “He’ll be there batting first again. I don’t worry about him because he’s a professional. He will battle. That’s not the first time he’s been through it. He’ll find a way.” Pierre has four hits in his past 29 at-bats, and his batting average has dipped from .266 to .242. OG what a joke! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Zelig Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 QUOTE (Soxfest @ May 15, 2011 -> 08:22 PM) Pierre has four hits in his past 29 at-bats, and his batting average has dipped from .266 to .242. And it is still higher than 4 other starters!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 QUOTE (Leonard Zelig @ May 15, 2011 -> 09:46 PM) And it is still higher than 4 other starters!!! Except Beckham and morel are regularly being benched Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 QUOTE (Leonard Zelig @ May 15, 2011 -> 08:46 PM) And it is still higher than 4 other starters!!! I thought Pierre was the worst player in baseball? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 QUOTE (T R U @ May 15, 2011 -> 11:28 PM) I thought Pierre was the worst player in baseball? He is, but that doesn't mean he has to have the worst AVG in baseball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 (edited) And just to fuel the fire, Juan now owns a -1.2 WAR. Making him the worst player in baseball by DOUBLE that of the 2nd worst player, which is Carl Crawford at -0.6. How does that one sit with you guys? Still don't want to release him and have to eat $4M or so? Edited May 16, 2011 by JoeCoolMan24 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ May 16, 2011 -> 05:21 AM) And just to fuel the fire, Juan now owns a -1.2 WAR. Making him the worst player in baseball by DOUBLE that of the 2nd worst player, which is Carl Crawford at -0.6. How does that one sit with you guys? Still don't want to release him and have to eat $4M or so? Cut our losses. Later JP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 QUOTE (hi8is @ May 16, 2011 -> 01:36 AM) Cut our losses. Later JP. That's what I'm sayin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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