RockRaines Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Hes not a long or short term solution IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFutureIsNear Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 I'm genuinely shocked. Thought for sure the FO would make the wrong decision of picking up the option. Now please just let him walk all together unless he takes a 1 year $5M deal(which I doubt) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Can you imagine having an infield of Olt or Beckham at 3B, Saladino at SS, Sanchez or Micah at second and Abreu at first? With all due respect to Abreu, that's by far the worst infield in baseball 2016 and one of the worst in Sox history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 QUOTE (greg775 @ Nov 4, 2015 -> 04:40 PM) Can you imagine having an infield of Olt or Beckham at 3B, Saladino at SS, Sanchez or Micah at second and Abreu at first? With all due respect to Abreu, that's by far the worst infield in baseball 2016 and one of the worst in Sox history. Â No, why are you imagining that? It's November 4th. Why would that be the plan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 If it is to save money and let him go, bad move  If it is to resign at 2 years $14M I'm ok  If it is to let him go because they want to go in a different direction via a targeted trade or free agency I am ok as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 QUOTE (greg775 @ Nov 4, 2015 -> 04:40 PM) Can you imagine having an infield of Olt or Beckham at 3B, Saladino at SS, Sanchez or Micah at second and Abreu at first? With all due respect to Abreu, that's by far the worst infield in baseball 2016 and one of the worst in Sox history. Â Yes I can imagine it. I can also imagine myself with Kate Upton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakes Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 QUOTE (TheFutureIsNear @ Nov 4, 2015 -> 03:23 PM) I'm genuinely shocked. Thought for sure the FO would make the wrong decision of picking up the option. Now please just let him walk all together unless he takes a 1 year $5M deal(which I doubt) Â I say forget the 1 year deal even. It is time for him to go. He is below replacement level, and his defense is declining rapidly every year. He's not going to get better with age. The Sox need a better plan than "I hope he has a big bounce back at 35". Â He had a great career here and was mostly under appreciated nationally, but the Sox have to get better at learning when to cut ties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 4, 2015 -> 02:09 PM) I thought you can sign your own free agents now. Â Unless all the beat writers and respected other Sox media that are reporting it are wrong... which I suppose is possible. They are all saying the 7th. Â QUOTE (Vance Law @ Nov 4, 2015 -> 03:03 PM) They wouldn't make a gentleman's agreement to do that. They would just make an agreement to do that. They would have announced that agreed upon contract if they had one. Â No, because they can't announce deals earlier than deals are allowed. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Nov 4, 2015 -> 04:35 PM) Unless all the beat writers and respected other Sox media that are reporting it are wrong... which I suppose is possible. They are all saying the 7th.   No, because they can't announce deals earlier than deals are allowed.  The most likely scenario is that each side knows what the other is looking for, and they will work quickly to narrow the gap for an agreement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 I'd say 90% of Soxtalk did not see this coming. Sure as hell surprised me. I have read few, if any, offseason plans involving a restructured Alexi contract. Â If it's a restructured deal, I'm sure Hahn told Alexi the money saved would allow them to sign an additional FA. Of which would be geared towards 3B or 2B. If he leaves, I commend Hahn for atleast recognizing this collection of players isn't working and attempting something different. It's easy to sit back and say "alexi is the least of our problems" while accepting a below replacement level offensive and defensive player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 QUOTE (Flash Tizzle @ Nov 4, 2015 -> 05:46 PM) I'd say 90% of Soxtalk did not see this coming. Sure as hell surprised me. I have read few, if any, offseason plans involving a restructured Alexi contract. Â If it's a restructured deal, I'm sure Hahn told Alexi the money saved would allow them to sign an additional FA. Of which would be geared towards 3B or 2B. If he leaves, I commend Hahn for atleast recognizing this collection of players isn't working and attempting something different. It's easy to sit back and say "alexi is the least of our problems" while accepting a below replacement level offensive and defensive player. Semi-surprising, but also intriguing if they move on completely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 I know me and flavum love this move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Now, if they also realize Tyler Flowers isn't entitled to a lifetime contract due to pitch framing, Avi due to youth and mini-Miggy potential, not to ride LaRoche all season long in the hopes of extracting some value if he's still struggling AND that we haven't had a reliable 3b since Joe Crede, we'll be all set. Â Oh, and also realizing Sanchez and Saladino are super utility players but not regulars (along with Trayce as the outfield equivalent of that)... Â Do you believe in miracles? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klaus kinski Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Going to be hard to replace his durability so they will try and sign him again. But being near the end age wise, he will be looking for as much $ as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Good move. let him go. Thanks for everything by time to move on. Â Hope he's not back. Let Saladino man the position or sign a one year stop gap until Anderson is ready. Â Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saufley Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 QUOTE (greg775 @ Nov 4, 2015 -> 03:40 PM) Can you imagine having an infield of Olt or Beckham at 3B, Saladino at SS, Sanchez or Micah at second and Abreu at first? With all due respect to Abreu, that's by far the worst infield in baseball 2016 and one of the worst in Sox history. Â In my wildest dream I cannot imagine Beckham back with the Sox next year. I hope that I am right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 QUOTE (Flash Tizzle @ Nov 4, 2015 -> 02:46 PM) I'd say 90% of Soxtalk did not see this coming. Sure as hell surprised me. I have read few, if any, offseason plans involving a restructured Alexi contract. Â If it's a restructured deal, I'm sure Hahn told Alexi the money saved would allow them to sign an additional FA. Of which would be geared towards 3B or 2B. If he leaves, I commend Hahn for atleast recognizing this collection of players isn't working and attempting something different. It's easy to sit back and say "alexi is the least of our problems" while accepting a below replacement level offensive and defensive player. Â I'm somewhat surprised . I made it known I didn't want the Sox to pick up his option. I'll guess right now he won't be back but if he is it'll be roughly a 4-5 million 1 year contract laced with incentives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Holy f***. BEST NEWS EVER! Dude is likely to be a 1 WAR player next year. Chicago has plenty of middle infield options that will cost nothing that can put up 1 WAR. Time to see if Saladino or Sanchez can cut it there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Nov 4, 2015 -> 08:17 PM) Holy f***. BEST NEWS EVER! Dude is likely to be a 1 WAR player next year. Chicago has plenty of middle infield options that will cost nothing that can put up 1 WAR. Time to see if Saladino or Sanchez can cut it there. Hate to burst your bubble, but this doesn't mean he won't be returning, and it's actually likely that he does return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 QUOTE (Saufley @ Nov 4, 2015 -> 07:03 PM) In my wildest dream I cannot imagine Beckham back with the Sox next year. I hope that I am right. Â And, hitting 8th for your 2016 Chicago White Sox, from the University of Georgia, starting shortstop Gordon Beckham. Â Cue tired out walk-up music and Hawk adulation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Nov 4, 2015 -> 08:40 PM) And, hitting 8th for your 2016 Chicago White Sox, from the University of Georgia, starting shortstop Gordon Beckham. Cue tired out walk-up music and Hawk adulation. Perhaps the worst part of that was "hitting 8th" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 From my perspective, you were hitting Sanchez 9th at 2B. Â Hard to imagine that Carlos Sanchez would hit 8th and Beckham 9th. Â (Granted, the biggest potential nightmare scenario would be Beckham hitting 2nd, haha). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 QUOTE (Saufley @ Nov 4, 2015 -> 07:03 PM) In my wildest dream I cannot imagine Beckham back with the Sox next year. I hope that I am right. Yes, enough of Beckham. I can't wait until Danks is gone after 2016 and we're done with the "core" of those bad post 2008 teams. Â If nothing else, Hahn please try someone else for the exact limited production. I just want to see another face aside from Beckham's frat boy mug for more than half a season. And this time it should be permanent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballz Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 (edited) Very surprised. I don't see him re-signing. He'll get at least a 2/$15M from somebody out there. Â This. Â Why pay Alexei $10M for 1 year when he doesn't factor into future plans. Â Let him go...He can secure $15M or more over the course of several years with another club. Â He's just not a fit anymore with $ being mismanaged on guys like LaRoche and Robertson. Â Neither are what we need now... Need youth, hitting, OBP, defense more than anything...protect our pitching. Alexei doesn't help with this at all! Â Team management is hopefully on the right track now. Â And by the way - Some of you guys needs to stop sucking Hahn's schwantz. Â He's not proven d*ck as far as I can see. For every Abreu, I see a LaRoache, Beckham Part II, Bonafacio, Robertson (good deal, bad timing), and also missed opportunities.... Â This team is FAR from being good. It's a damn miracle they weren't dead last (a 2 win accomplishment, BTW). Â Â Edited November 5, 2015 by Ballz-n-Strikes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 QUOTE (Flash Tizzle @ Nov 4, 2015 -> 11:46 PM) I'd say 90% of Soxtalk did not see this coming. Sure as hell surprised me. I have read few, if any, offseason plans involving a restructured Alexi contract. Â Why do a lot of people think he's gonna get a restructured deal with the Sox? He's a decent shortstop. He's actually above average and has a little pop in his bat. He's gonna get 12-15 million a year with somebody, believe it or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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