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No, you weren't. This needless underhanded jab proves it. He was just cracking a joke. You're such a miserable ass...

What's the exit velocity on a swing and miss?

my only philosophy on baseball (as a young person) is that old players like colome are useless (as are saves, since I am a statnik) and should be force retired. If that's not possible, flipping them is an okay consolation prize. White sox should seek to ensure their roster is as young player as possible, as the old players may rub off on them and turn them old.

I'm going to call him "Madrigal" who is with me?!

Nobody wants old guys rubbing off on them.

Good grief. You kill joys are no fun and too serious.

I don't dislike Madrigal as a prospect, but it's funny how he went from criminally underrated to criminally overrated in a month.

Without fail I have been critical of the move, but at this point I have to say it. The Nova acquisition was absolutely worth it.

I'd rather have the media hype Vlad Jr. over the other son of a former major leaguer who is 20 and is miles better as a player for my sanity..

It was just a throwaway blurb from an aggregater site. you guys probably spent more time debating its meaning than the author spent writing it.

Luis Rodriguez just was moved from DSL to AZL today. We have done it with others, not often, but it is done.

That's a 4-1 by my count.

Right, while nearly all posters can blend the many factors that go into our opinions on what the team should do to be a consistent contender moving forward (age, control, position, productivity, future outlook, etc), greg can only handle one, so he assume all of us are only focused on a single input as well. And despite pointing this out, he will not be able to grow or change, because this has been pointed out to him roughly 1000x to him during the last 10 years at least and nothing.

I see I missed the memo that everyone was getting wasted tonight and pretending Madrigal got to play 81 games in Colorado

This is freaking awesome! Trade Fulmer and Bryce Bush for Pederson!!!

Yes, I'm sorry, please go on and explain how this 26 year old first baseman who has declining power numbers repeating AAA for the third time in one of the best hitting environments in baseball, in a season with a surge in offensive output due to a change in baseballs, in one of the best talent identifying and developing organizations in baseball, is going to be JD martinez. JD martinez of course, was an actual big leaguer for years before, a fringey poor defensive outfielder who completely remade his swing in an offseason and it didn't manifest itself in the limited playing time they had to re-evaluate it before releasing him. What has changed since 2013? Well they have added millions in technology and coaching that would have helped show them that his swing plane had changed, launch angle had become consistently better and his exit velocity improved. They have turned over almost all of the staff since then. They actually held themselves accountable for the mistake. But yes, nice anecdote. I'm sure AJ Reed is going to be JD Martinez just like Yolmer is going to be a superstar. You called it.

Eloy is the bessss

Nice. Moncada's last 40 games .340/.390/.607, .997 OPS, 162 wRC+ 9 HR, 2 3B, 9 2B.

42-44 is a damn good 1st half.

Two good starts against the Cubs doesn’t make him worth it.

Remember, Real brings nothing but those truth bombs so clearly the Sox bungled his defensive development in the short time he was with us!!

Uh collins is 3 years younger and catches and this is his first ever taste of the majors. Palka is the worst defensive player in MLB baseball and cant hit and has had like 600 mlb at bats. Weird that you cant seperate the two.

Hallelujah

70 extra base hits?! 70?! The dude had 28 in 500 plate appearances in the minors. You're asking him to double his power as he goes UP to the majors.

Rod Carew had a five year period where he averaged 8 WAR and 8 home runs.

If he lived in the us most of his life would he have been an International prospect? Maybe vlad left the family on the island.

That was me. Glad to see the Sox give Reed a shot. Nothing to lose. He probably sucks, but no reason to not give him a shot.

Willians Astudillo would be your point of comparison, and he stinks. So it’s possible. Madrigal being able to run helps though. I also imagine Nick will be able to walk more than he strikesout unlike Astudillo

Sox need another minor league team.

This could be the sign I don't want. They are trading Jose and this guy is ready to immediately take over at first. ... It's pretty obvious. Hahn is definitely trade-happy and he will simply tell people like me who are upset that they may try to sign Jose in the offseason. They'll have to be careful, however, as that might mean they don't believe this new guy can hit in the bigs.

Since June 1st two players have dominated the league to the tune of a wRC+ of 198. Those two players? One is Mike Trout. The other is Yoan Moncada.

He appears to be Palka 2.0 slightly younger and can actually play 1B from the scouting reports. Good swap just a few years ago he was an actual top prospect 1/50 he finds something in Chicago and you get a good player.

We are attempting this for FutureSox right now. I'm currently doing this: 1. Luis Robert OF 2. Michael Kopech RHP 3. Dylan Cease RHP 4. Nick Madrigal 2B 5. Andrew Vaughn 1B 6. Zack Collins C 7. Dane Dunning RHP 8. Steele Walker OF 9. Luis Alexander Basabe OF 10. Andrew Dalquist RHP 11. Micker Adolfo OF 12. Blake Rutherford OF 13. Luis Gonzalez OF 14. Matthew Thompson RHP 15. Yolbert Sanchez SS

I like'em both but Devers just has the look of a guy that is going to be a 1B in a few years. That said, Devers' hit tool is among the best in baseball. Yoan has more power and speed but Devers is just a pure hitter. You couldn't go wrong starting a franchise with either.

Except the little magician. That's just trash.

I wouldn't say it sucks that his best position is third. That is a tough position to fill with a great player. We didn't need him at second anymore because we have Madrigal.

1. Robert 2. Kopech 3. Cease 4. Madrigal 5. Vaughn 6. Dunning 7. Basabe 8. Rutherford 9. Sheets 10. Walker I understand the lack of enthusiasm over Rutherford and Sheets, but I think some of the concerns are a little overblown. For comparison's sake, Walker is a full year older than Rutherford and has been playing a level or two lower all year. (Also, I don't dock guys for lack of HR power as much as other people do.)

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Too funny.....

Anyone who looked past HR in the box score. It's not good being a two-outcome player.

Shades of Hot Fire. Or was it HoT FiRe or some stupid shit like that? Either way, trash.

We literally just drafted nine prep players and signed eight of them. This includes our 2nd, 3rd, & 4th round picks. Your complaint of not being willing to take high upside prep talent is outdated.

Someone cue the @OneDog847 signal, because we got another first round bust on our hands! Clearly we should have taken the high schooler Abrams because he’s been HoT fIrE so far!

Way to move those goal posts. Nothing more entertaining than just hating on everything white sox on this board I guess.

White Sox just acquired Palka last year.

Nobody wants to keep him for the sake of winning a few more games this year. It's to have a good bullpen moving forward in to next year and beyond. Why are you against him being our closer for the next 2-4 years? At a certain point you have to say it's time to build this up, instead of continuing to tear it down. The Sox have the pieces to move full steam ahead.

778 for a 26 year old DH is bad.

Joe Borchard hit the ball hard. He just didn't hit it enough. When I say he cant hit I'm pointing moreso to his 219 career average and his 171 k's in 141 games.

So long Daniel Palka. We hardly knew ye There was some fun moments, but you are not a major league baseball player