MLB 2021-2 off season thread

[Whisox05 358]

 

[southsider2k5 11,636]

Old friend alert

 

[southsider2k5 11,636]

 

[caulfield12 4,084]

3 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

 

More former White Sox...

[CWSpalehoseCWS 821]

 

Bet he beat Liam's AVV.

[caulfield12 4,084]

2 minutes ago, CWSpalehoseCWS said:

 

Bet he beat Liam's AVV.

Predicted for months, 3-4 years was the only question remaining to be answered.

 

Leaving Jansen, Kimbrel and Melancon as the biggest names remaining out there...

Edited December 1, 2021 by caulfield12

[South Side Hit Men 2,283]

Another reasonable deal.

 

[caulfield12 4,084]

1 minute ago, South Side Hit Men said:

Another reasonable deal.

 

Tepera's going to get more than $6.5-7.5 at this rate, and looking at the Neris deal.

Edited December 1, 2021 by caulfield12

[South Side Hit Men 2,283]

Updated through 11PM signings:

Crowdsourced or final AAV per projected 2022 fWAR  (Limited to the 33 FAs with a 2.0 or higher projected fWAR):

https://www.fangraphs.com/roster-resource/free-agent-tracker?&pos=all

 Fan Graphs Top 50 FA Rank ; $ = 2022 fWAR / AAV; (Age / #AAV Years)

• 1B (2): 5. F. Freeman $5.1M (32 5); 29. A. Rizzo $6,4M (32 3); 28. B. Belt $8.8M (34 1).
• 2B/SS (0): 3. M. Semien $5.6M (31 7); 12. J. Baez $11.7M (29 6).
• SS (2): 1. C. Correa $5.8M (27 8); 10. T. Story $6.9M (29 6); 2. C. Seager $7.1M (28 10).
• 3B (1): 30. K. Seager $6.0M (34 2).
• OF (5): T. Pham $4.5M (34 2); 20. K. Schwarber $5.8M (29 4); 21. A. Garcia $6.0M (31 4); 9. S. Marte $6.5M (33 4); 22. M. Conforto (29 1) $6.8M; 11. N. Castellanos $7.6M (30 4); 6. K. Bryant $9.3M (30 6).
• SP (5): J. Quintana $0.9M (33 1); A. Wood $4.0M (31 3); 38. A. Cobb $4.2M (34 2);  31. S. Matz $4.4M (31 4); 13. E. Rodriguez $4.4M (29 5); 17. C. Rodon $4.7M (29 4); D. Duffy $5.0M (33 2); 36. A. DeSclafani $5.2M (32 3);  32. J. Gray $5.8M (30 4); 50. Y. Kikuchi $6.0M (31 1); 14. K. Gausman $6.1M (31 5); 7. R Ray $6.2M (30 5); 19. J. Verlander $6.9M (39 2); 8. M. Stroman $6.9M (31 4); 18. C. Kershaw $8.4M (34 4); 15. N. Syndergaard $9.1M (29 1); 4. M. Scherzer $9.8M (37 3).

[Tnetennba 3,550]

 

[Look at Ray Ray Run 7,240]

2 minutes ago, Tnetennba said:

 

58 million. 14.5 per.

[Look at Ray Ray Run 7,240]

36 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

Tepera's going to get more than $6.5-7.5 at this rate, and looking at the Neris deal.

Alex Cobb is a starting pitching. Lol you say some of the weirdest things.

[YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! 1,704]

19 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

58 million. 14.5 per.

Wonder what if any impact that contract will have as far as trading Kimbrel is concerned.

[fathom 11,120]

1 minute ago, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said:

Wonder what if any impact that contract will have as far as trading Kimbrel is concerned.

Can’t hurt, as Angels was a team I wanted nothing to do with in a trade. Lot less risk for getting Kimbrel for only one year.

[hi8is 2,845]

9 minutes ago, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said:

Wonder what if any impact that contract will have as far as trading Kimbrel is concerned.

Yes

[Chisoxfn 1,560]

21 minutes ago, fathom said:

Can’t hurt, as Angels was a team I wanted nothing to do with in a trade. Lot less risk for getting Kimbrel for only one year.

This is good - sets a market for closers and quite frankly shows why a team would value Kimbrel at 1 YR vs. going 4 yrs on Iglesias, who is very good.  Fact Angels got him and were never a perfect match, further validates the fact that the club will get something decent for Craig.  

[chw42 4,436]

1 hour ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

58 million. 14.5 per.

He beat Hendriks' deal.

[caulfield12 4,084]

3 hours ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

Alex Cobb is a starting pitching. Lol you say some of the weirdest things.

13.7 fWAR / 9 years.

He's not even Zach Eflin.  His salary is so low I just assumed he was a reliever, but he's the quintessential back-end of the rotation guy.

Which means he automatically will end up being in the 2.5-3.5 fWAR range for the Giants next year.

Bleak, bleak, bleak.

He's not even the type of starter you pick up on a hunch for your fantasy/roto league team.

[oldsox 423]

6 hours ago, Chisoxfn said:

This is good - sets a market for closers and quite frankly shows why a team would value Kimbrel at 1 YR vs. going 4 yrs on Iglesias, who is very good.  Fact Angels got him and were never a perfect match, further validates the fact that the club will get something decent for Craig.  

Respectfully disagree.  Sox won't get anything worthwhile for Kimbrel.  

[hi8is 2,845]

12 minutes ago, oldsox said:

Respectfully disagree.  Sox won't get anything worthwhile for Kimbrel.  

I hope you are slightly surprised.

[bmags 8,562]

4 hours ago, caulfield12 said:

13.7 fWAR / 9 years.

He's not even Zach Eflin.  His salary is so low I just assumed he was a reliever, but he's the quintessential back-end of the rotation guy.

Which means he automatically will end up being in the 2.5-3.5 fWAR range for the Giants next year.

Bleak, bleak, bleak.

He's not even the type of starter you pick up on a hunch for your fantasy/roto league team.

So this was relevant to Tepera how exactly? Or did you forget already that’s what you typed and are just stream of consciousness riffing on a post in your activity?

[Tnetennba 3,550]

 

[Kyyle23 4,495]

20 minutes ago, Tnetennba said:

 

people are gonna trust Paxtons arm again, huh 

[GREEDY 305]

1 hour ago, Kyyle23 said:

people are gonna trust Paxtons arm again, huh 

Love seeing club options on these deals.  I've always wondered why they don't push for them on short term deals.  If you are going to bet on a guy, and give him opportunity, make sure it pays off if you are correct.  

What more would it have cost the Sox to have a club option at about 6-8 million on Los for this season?  An extra million guaranteed?  Rodon got 1/3 last year.  It could have looked like this:

'21  @ 3

'22 @ 6 ( club option with 1 million dollar buyout)

'23 @ 9 (club option with 1 million dollar buyout)

 

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