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Stuff like this, that this guy could be a high ranking baseball official for 25+ years despite being a moron clearly starved for attention, is why no fan should accept criticism that they would know less than people actually employed in baseball.

TA is on board

Yeah olberman is a bit of an ass but that doesn't mean he can't be right. Disagreeing with someone just because you don't like him is not a good idea.

I'm guessing it is political.

He never said "all was fine". He just pointed out this is another sign things (at least for the actual players and staff) are going good with TLR. The complete doom and gloom around TLR this forum emits is getting old and frankly sounding more and more like an echo chamber.

It’s sad that it seems certain posters are hoping for there to be turmoil.

He looks a lot smaller, good to see!

Came in thinking this was gonna be a hot mic situation, but nope, this dude was fully aware that this was a broadcast event. Amazingly stupid that he'd do something that could risk Seattle's historic appeal to Japanese players. I feel like it'd be the Sox fucking up their Cuban connection.

Do you have any relevant information to refute the facts reported in Olbermann's tweet regarding Mathers' previous history of sexual harassment, the Mariners' subsequent sexual harassment settlement payments, or Mathers' exposed racist statements? Are you opposed to Keith's lone opinion that Mathers' tenure should and will end soon? Are you OK with people like Mathers running the sport? Or are you merely triggered by the fact that people are no longer putting up with sexual harassment and racism?

In the spirit of forgiving past mistakes, I think they should let William Ligue Jr. and his son back into the park. Sure, they hope on the field and beat up a KC Royals coach, but it was a misdemeanor. Why do they have lifetime bans?

Even worse than the language thing is probably that he admitted keeping guys down due to service time reasons. GMs never admit that, they always invent something like "needs to work on his baserunning". This could cost the mariners quite a bit of money if the players file a grievance for service time manipulations. Prior grievances have been lost as the player can't really prove he is ready but if the ceo is on record admitting it was manipulation that could be different. Was that guy drunk or what? Normally a man in his position should be intelligent enough to not say stuff like that.

So he didn't need a translator based on what exactly? Because the imbecile that just got fired said so? It's potentially insulting to blatantly accuse an individual who's second language is English of using a translator as a crutch they do not need, particularly someone from a country halfway around the world coming to this country in their adult years. It's quite obviously a topic that should never have been broached at all. Not sure how that's difficult for you to put together after the end result.

I don't CARE about Teheran...I am SO excited about this team. In all my following of the White Sox I can't remember so many exciting pitchers under 26...Gio, Cease, Kopech, Crochet, Kelly, Stiever, Thompson, Dahlquist...all on the roster or in our top ten prospect list. I just don't want the White Sox even considering some 30 year old cast off...irrespective of his league average skills...even if he's free....I don't want them to look at Leake or Hamels. This is not the time...this is not the team...back when the Sox were trying to squeeze a contender out of the Sale/Quintana/Eaton/Abreu group and they had all sorts of garbage on their staff, bullpen and lineup...sure...bring in Teheran and dream. But this team has way to much talent to be grasping at straws...and if the wheels do fall of the cart with the rotation...I'm pretty sure you can find a Teheran equivalent by trading a fringe prospect to a non-contender.

What if I told you all of that is true, AND people still want to see the team win. I know it is difficult, but it is possible.

Also this guy didn't seem to be a baseball ops guy, more of a ted phillips owner-stays-happy-because-you-ask-the-annoying-questions-about-costs-of-75k-translators-so-he-doesn't-have-to and if anything they aren't going to put baseball ops guy above dipoto at this point.

How unsatisfied will you be if no feathers are ruffled? Sure sounds like you’re trying to force the issue here.

Oh no. Many feathers will be rustled by that tweet. Everyone wants to leave the organization because of TLR. Why would TA lie and say things that are 100 percent false? Was TA coerced into making that statement?

It is interesting that a guy who was supposedly hired with zero tolerance if another one of these pops up, didn't even warrant a discussion whether said behavior should disqualify him from the job.

You all are really reaching here with the “carrying the water”. The poster above was just trying to get across that referring to him as a “felon” is incorrect, he in fact is not legally a felon. He wasn’t defending TLR’s actions or hire (I’m not either). He was just clarifying a fact, not an opinion.

Parents are scheduled for Wednesday in Arizona. I'm scheduled for Thursday in New York.

I'm really into art, so been someone who I probably followed more closely than most since leaving the Sox. He's got some really cool pieces. I think there was a guy on the Cubs too -- kinda their AAAA version of Micah Johnson who also was doing art on the side too. It really is true - we always pin these guys as just athletes and say things like "good" when a NIcky Delmonico or MIcah or Palka doesnt make the team. Sometimes easy to forget these guys are chasing their dreams and are people too. Glad hes finding a ton of success right now.

You are correct, and I don't think that it's a coincidence that a team with that kind of drought is also where a guy has a public chat like this.

So he's George Costanza. If you really believe it, it is not a lie. Maybe when the Bulls are ready to win he will give Chief Triangle a call.

Still, it's headline news in both the Seattle newspapers, the Times and Post-Intelligencer.

Any thread that starts by quoting Keith Olbermann is pretty much a waste of all of our brain cells.

What sort of racism threshold does it has to meet in your mind for it to be out of line?

The Grandal contract beats the Alex Gordon deal by ONE freakin' million, 4/$73 versus 4/$72. If you adjust for inflation, the Royals' deal was still "more expensive," technically.

Interesting that the Mariners are considered a step up for Kenny or Rick in the eyes of Sox fans.

I read a post and some replies yesterday asking if Hahn should have left and if he could get another GM job. TA7 was the one guy people thought would forever hate TLR. He doesn't hate him so it's time for everyone to move on.

If this were the old days you all could read my opinions of Franken, Cruz and Ventura, etc. I've learned my lesson. Ah for the good old days. ... More seriously, glad u and your family members are safe, Tex. My power went off here for 2-3 hours and it's amazing how quickly the place can freeze up. Glad u are OK, Tex. I watched some clips from Austin and the lines to get in a convenience store were around the block. Scary days.

I know the TLR hate exists. We were (I thought) talking specifically about people reacting to TA’s quote in the way you described. I’ve yet to see anyone react that way on this board. Sorry it hasn’t happened for you yet. Oh, and yeah, being critical of TLR/JR + being happy that TA is on board: Not mutually exclusive.

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Exactly. I believe everyone here wants the players to be comfortable and accepted, regardless of whether we support the hire or not. If his DUI and other discussed issues resulted in positive personal reflection and growth, than kudos to Tony for committing to change at this stage in life. Baseball is a grind and despite COVID based restrictions on media access, players can still communicate directly with the public. Beyond a crazy blowup, the truth good or bad will emerge over time. I expect Tim to be candid via his personal social media in either case, and hope for the best.

HOpefully someone put Uber on his Jitterbug phone.

You're still stuck in the same place. Where on earth are you getting the idea that I don't "take exception with" Tony LaRussa's criminal actions? I think what he did is terrible, I don't support the hire, and I think the organization has handled the situation as poorly as I could possibly imagine. Now back to the actual point. I now realize it was you who originally said TLR is a "felon" (two-time felon, I think?) That's false, no matter how you slice it. The statutes that restrict felons' voting rights, for example, don't have a category for "shorthand felon," or "felon depending on how you look at it." If you called TLR a "felon" in a court filing you'd be subject to sanction. You should just acknowledge it, but somehow it seems like you're still digging. That's your right--this is a message board, after all, not a court of law--but as a moderator you should try to do better in my humble opinion.

Just thought I'd drop this in. Been following his art career for some time, really cool stuff. His popularity has really taken off over the past 12 months which is cool to see. Wasn't more than like 2 years ago where he was tweeting about making art for anybody who is willing to pay like $200. Now he's selling over a million worth of art in minutes. His biggest piece is AKU - really making a killing in the NFT space which is super cool to see. (NFT -= Non fungible token) basically putting art or songs, etc. on blockhain as a way to create authenticity and know what you're buying is really one of one, etc. https://beincrypto.com/micah-johnson-nft-artwork-sells-for-120000-on-async-art/ I can't find the article from Nifty Gateway, but it's on Twitter if you search, he sold like $1.4mm or something yesterday on his release. Cool stuff. His Jackie Robinson piece has always been awesome to me. Give him a google search if you're interested.

What has that have to do with the pertinent issue at hand? Speaking of assholes (TLR, not Jerksticks) The connection is not the White Sox’ equivalent positions (Williams or Hahn) but the manager who shares many similarities with Mathers: Willing to share their ignorant opinions to anyone who will listen, with pride because they operated their whole careers in a crony protected bubble. Priding themselves on operating under a “family” type atmosphere. Offering “sincere” apologies and claiming they learned from their initially exposed “mistakes” when they clearly have not. Having inept and dysfunctional ownership bending over backwards to acquire / promote / keep these two. These are the people running your game folks. The crony old boys network, whether on the South Side or Seattle are the reasons people remain repulsed by the La Russa hire, and the owner who made it happen. It’s 8:26 AM PST, Mets shitcanned their GM by this time the following day and folks here claimed the Mets dragged their feet in firing their disgraceful GM. In someways I’m hoping the Mariners dig in Reinsdorf style, at least for a few days, and reap what they have sowed with cancellations of significant season ticket and corporate suites, not to mention the media frenzy before finely doing what they should have done in or before 2018.

DUIs where the offender falls asleep at the wheel or where he is involved in a collision could be charged as a felony if the prosecutor decided to do so. Felony DUI could also be decided based on BAC. Furthermore, there are some states where there is no time limit, if you get a second DUI it could well be charged as a felony, Arizona is not one of these. In fact, I will guarantee you there are people in this country who have served months in jail for doing things exactly like Tony LaRussa and who were then charged with a felony. He is a rich, well represented white guy, and so your statement that he is not a felon is tantamount to a statement “he’s rich and white, this is not open to debate. Next”

According to newpaper reports he pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor. He has never been convicted of a felony. La Russa: 'I regret' incident - Sun Sentinel (sun-sentinel.com) If you need to lie to make a point, the point is probably invalid.

Kevin Mather is an idiot.

Are you saying that because our FO hired TLR that they would look the other way if say KW pulled a Mather? I’m not sure I see the connection

When you're one of the worse run franchise in baseball it's just a normal day at the office. Sigh

Does anyone really buy JR's statement? I'm sorry, that is telling his customer base he thinks they are dumb. Not based on friendship? Not based on the past? OK, Jerry.

Friday afternoon appointment for the vaccine.

While I tend to agree with the general sentiments you mentioned, LaRussa IS NOT a felon, not one time or two times. Hurts the credibility of your argument when you are being disingenuous while slamming the organization for their lack of honesty and openess in the hiring process.

Sounds like someone needs to take a timeout.