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i don’t think it’s moncada and jimenez that taught us that.

The corresponding move will be Minaya shot out of a cannon into space

Death

Why don't we look at the 2018 fWAR leaders and their starts Betts - first 197 games .818 OPS Trout - first 179 games .911 OPS Ramirez - first 180 games a .644 OPS Bregman - first 204 games .818 OPS Lindor - first 99 games.835 OPS Yelich - first 206 games .765 OPS Chapman - first 84 games .785 OPS Machado - first 207 games .744 OPS Rendon - first 98 games ,725 OPS Martinez - first 166 games .705 OPS Arenado - first 133 games .706 OPS Cain - not comparable never a really good hitter Simmons - not comparable never a really good hitter Baez - first 222 games .680 OPS Freeman - first 177 games .784 OPS So basically of the top 13 offensive WAR players only 4 of them started out hitting over .800 OPS

And with that, you finally earn the ignore. My God, you're a blow hard.

You beat me to it. Fuck you!

I've written letters to JR for years and I always received a response from him. But when I wrote him a letter requesting to be interviewed for the White Sox Gm job, I didn't receive any response from him. Maybe he's keeping my letter on file and he will eventually get back to me. I'm still open to being the White Sox GM. If I become the White Sox GM , I promise all White Sox fans the greatest fun ride in modern White Sox history. I WILL MAKE THE WHITE SOX GREAT AGAIN!!!!

Moncada has a 127 wRC+ and you're trying to use him as a cautionary tale?

This is good stuff.

That would be the kind of stupid move I would expect of Hahn.

And his K-rate and his line drive rate and so on. To be fair though, if you were alive back then you would say that Joe DiMaggio‘s average is plummeting and in free fall one day after his hitting streak ended.

If he's being pulled after 84 pitches and 4 IP, the organization likely wants him to save innings in the minors so he can pitch throughout September in Chicago. Calm down.

That's why I despise the draft and tanking for baseball's draft. What a joke.

Interesting if Engel was sent down. That should be it for his career. Baseball can be cruel. Mr. Engel can sure field, but can't hit a lick. Another big league hopeful bites the dust (I realize nothing was expected of him as a 19th round pick).

Are Kemp and Manny friends on facebook?

Tiquan Forbes just worked a 12 pitch AB for a walk

He is that's why everybody just needs to boycott the Sox. I wish they didn't have one single fan in the stands. and one single person watch on TV! That's obviously never going to happen but I wish it would.

They’ve gotten a little smarter at how they try and mask their incompetence. Used to be we were told about “three year plans” as a way of explaining away current ineptitude while kicking the can down the road. Now we have a “rebuild”, which is conveniently open-ended. Why lock yourself into figuring out how to fix this mess of an organization in three years when you can just call it a rebuild and let it go on indefinitely, all the while the massive profits pile up for ownership.

He's laughing all the way to the bank

Hahaha!!! Fire these assholes

Anyone sick of these Sox jerseys at this point? They've gotten stale. Go back to the sleeveless home whites or start wearing the the baby blues from the Melton era

Aren't you so happy that you had a pick of what team you'd cheer for & you landed on this one?

Coop will fix 'em.

I love when people say we should release players with options. Learn the rules.

Also Sox worst tendencies are spending way too much draft capital on college pitchers with low velo repertoires.

Great post cws....Adams and Stephens just don’t have the fastball to get major leaguers out

Any other org this mess with the roster and underperformance by the pitching would have had a few people gone. Honestly coop needs to step away. Do it graciously, but it needs to be done. Honestly until the sox are owned by baseball people this will be the story. I'm sorry but this team has been ran by incompetence all these years. Kenny has to be the first incompetent. He's just clinging to 05. I bet if he's even gone from the sox he doesn't get another ML job. Enough is enough.

Abreu has driven both our runs so let’s blame him for us losing. Let’s get a grip on reality please

I vote this to be the dumbest poll of all time.

At some point...a long series of injuries and failed prospects cannot be considered bad luck. We're not to that point yet, but we're on the edge of it. For example - it could be that acquiring pitching prospects en masse is fundamentally flawed because you can't develop them or keep them healthy. It could be that you acquire talented players but you neglect the training and development staff and facilities, causing a lot of injuries at all levels. It could be that your scouting department is weak and that even though you thought you were getting decent players, you were getting schooled by other GMs who specifically gave you guys that they were only willing to part with because their former teams thought they were likely to bust or get hurt.

It's Lip.

I don’t think other teams have good pitchers in AAA either. Most teams struggle to fill out the 4 & 5 slots on the MLB roster, let alone stash quality depth in the minors. Most teams also don’t have ace-potential guys like Cease & Kopech ready to step into the rotation either. We’re sitting pretty.

I don’t get this post at all.

At the very least, an objective baseball person outside the organization should come in, evaluate the rebuild, and make recommendations. The White Sox just can't expect fans to have faith and be patient. This would be a logical thing to do, but of course it would never happen. And the fact that it won't happen leaves many fans to think Reinsdorf no longer cares about the team, and it doesn't matter how many of his supporters deny this. I was at the Orioles DH. I know the weather drove many away, but it was not fun to look and out and see the emptiness. What also didn't help, despite the walkoff, was the overall dismal play of the White Sox. The rebuild can no longer be used as an excuse for a lackluster performance. I've been a fan for longer that I want to admit, but I can't remember being this discouraged about the team's future.

Can he pitch?

Why in the world would you ever cut Ruiz when he has options remaining?

It's easy, folks. Find the scouts who recommended Fulmer and you fire them. Is it that difficult?

Can you really blame an owner for not investing $350 million on the advice of the person who suggested these investments?

Is it me or does it seem like the White Sox always sh*t the bed when they have a large crowd at home?

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At last check, Moncada is 28th out of 29 qualified 3rd baseman defensively on fangraphs. Anderson is 23rd out of 25 for qualified SS. The Sox would be the worst defensive team in baseball if not for the Mariners AMAZING defensive season so far.

I say this all the time but I've never seen a fanbase hate one of its best players so much. It's a shame

He’s likely toast because of one bad outing in AA? You really are nothing but doom & gloom bro.

Didn't like that AB by Moncada. It was like he gave Rodriguez that strikeout.

Gtfo

Ozzie let his ego get the best of him. He turned his back on the Sox and his kids drove me nuts. No interest!!!

I'm glad we have this thread. It will certainly reduce the Rick Hahn complaining in every other thread.

He actually should be a hero. White Sox fans like to complain. He's given us many reasons. Rick reminds me of the guys that used to make Dick Vitale's all airport team. Guys who looked good at the airport but couldn't play worth a damn. Rick is a bright guy, talks a good game, makes everything seem to make a lot of sense, and then loses,and loses, and loses. He looks and sounds the part, but the evidence suggests he should be doing something else.

He once generally mangaged a team that wound up only 16.5 games out of first place. Hasn't been back to that level, but what do you want only in his 7th season.

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooope.