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Sox are going to get swept in 2 - yes, the first two losses will be so lopsided that MLB will make them forfeit the 3rd - so I wouldn't worry about it.

This thread is obviously only for name calling, and is serving no productive purpose. It is over.

The team that looked outstanding in playoff type atmospheres and mostly in front of national audiences, such as the Field of Dreams game, the recent Red Sox series, both Cubs series, and even the recent Yankees series, will be the one we see next month once the team returns to that type of atmosphere. No worries whatsoever. Not with the talent on this team.

I just see a team going through the motions. That concerns me..... This is all set up by our manager who continues to throw games with his lineups, especially the last game of every series....not to mention pitching guys in close games that have no business. I don't know........when all said and done maybe he will be the genius with getting his guys rest but I just don't see any urgency in this team. I truly thought they would begin to play better as they get closer to clinching the division but thats not happening as of now. That concerns me. But, what the hell do I know..... I do know that my frustration level with this team and TLR will not allow me to watch this team with full enjoyment. I find myself mad and frustrated when I watch them play. I have never been that way with a winning team before.

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Park somewhere outside the course route and take CTA.

And there was no team hotter than the 1983 White Sox that bombed out in the first round.

Good guys wear black.

With the way he's pitched since he's come off the IL, I wouldn't even offer him the QO. What's to say his arm won't break down after 90 innings again next year? Are we ready to pay the guy $18 million for maybe 100 innings of work? We need to focus on 2B and RF in free agency. SP is a spot we can afford to lose Rodon and still have it be a strength of the team.

We should post video clips of the most memorable White Sox games from the past in here. It can be division clinchers, favorite playoff games, or any games from the past. Here’s one. LOL

Pretty simple concept, but for whatever reason it seems difficult for some to grasp.

Yes, but that Cardinals team that famously flipped the switch was an experienced, playoff tested team. They had lost the 2004 World Series and in 2005 they won 100 games (1 more than the eventual champs) and pushed the Astros in the NLCS, famously murdering Brad Lidge in the process. A veteran team where people are all getting heathy being able to flip the switch - I could understand that. A fairly young team with 3 playoff games in their entire careers for many of them, where they are struggling despite guys having already returned from the IL weeks ago, where they appear unmotivated, where their manager keeps giving games away for baffling reasons and never seemed to connect with his players, and where their opponent (with home field advantage) is actually the veteran team with tons of championship experience? Well, I will believe that team can flip a switch on when I see it.

Hopefully it gets rained out so we can be saved the embarrassment of being swept in 3 by a below 500 team as we head into playoffs as a supposed contender. Here's to rain

This. I sincerely don’t get what I’m seeing on this forum in some ways. At the beginning of the season, even before Eloy’s injury (but especially after), I seem to recall almost everyone pitting the white sox as close, but maybe still a year away from a potential World Series run. Then it seemed the goalposts and expectations moved in a flash here, after the Mercedes experience bought us a few wins, after the pitching carried us through some injuries/spotty hitting, after the early surprise returns by Robert and Jimenez, and especially after the mid season “go for it now” acquisitions the FO made. It got way more expectational here. It also became kind of an entitled environment. This is still a very young core at heart. They will be streaky. Jimenez will heat up, Robert will cool down. Vaughn is still finding his entire game. Even Moncada and Anderson still go through “young” stretches although they continue to mature before our eyes. Most of these guys are way younger than 27. if this team loosens up, they’ll have enough raw talent to make every game very interesting. I think they will… after they clinch. This is just a pretty bad week. but also - IMO there aren’t 29 losers and 1 winner every baseball season, and I feel If the Sox take Houston deep into a series and they just beat us, we will be better next year and closer next year.

If you told me before the season the Sox would win 90 games and make the playoffs after losing Robert, Jimenez, Grandal and Madrigal for significant portions of the season, I'd be stoked. I'm still stoked.

? Its the same...old song... ? From 9/9/2005 From 9/22/2005

lmao no you don't

Sox clinch the division vs the Indians, sweet!

Glad that they called the game. They would’ve had to play in some nasty conditions. Let’s clinch in Cleveland!

A day without White Sox baseball is like a day with sunshine...never mind I guess we already have that....carry on and clinch this thing in Cleveland.

I think it is because Sale was at least getting innings in 2010 as a starter in college and then more innings in the MLB as a reliever. Also was a starter prior seasons in college. Kopech doesn't have the same workload prior to becoming a starter (missing basically 2 full seasons before this one).

I think there are lots of reasons Kopech can’t and won’t go 180 IP next season.

Hope so. Love week day afternoon games while working from home.

I believe that is now called Beijing revenue.

for the converse...the 1984 tigers started like 35-4 and played .500 the rest of the way. dominated the Padres in the world series. Oh. and the 2006 Cardinals were barely 500 for the year, won the division, played 1 good month of baseball (October) and won it all. 1969 mets barely over 500 as well.

Honestly, I think I’d be right where I’m at right now - “so the rest of the division was weaker than I thought, no one else even won 90 games so the Twins and Cleveland Baseball Club must have struggled, but the Sox weren’t all that great either. I’ll enjoy it but I’m going to be a bunch of baseball nerves when the playoffs approach because I’m never ready to be eliminated.”

The frustrating part is as we’re getting more pieces back from injuries, we’re playing worse. This team played better with a rag tag group of Nick Williams, Yermin, Lamb, etc. getting a lot of play time. Obviously the starting pitching isn’t as lights out the second half due to IL stints, but man this team is very hard to watch fundamentally and talent wise.

We are obviously resting our most skilled thread starters for the playoffs.

Look, berate the OP all you want. He's a little negative, yeah. But the point is, the Sox need to start ramping up - the 'who cares' month of September is rapidly coming to an end. And 'flipping a switch' isn't all that easy or what it's cracked up to be. They are too lax, and verging on becoming complacent. I, for one, won't be surprised if they're ousted pretty quickly, although I hope they find the extra gear to go farther than their first round. In any case, they need to start ramping up to playoff mode any day now - it gets too easy to sluff it all off as 'not mattering'. They need to get it together, and start showing up. Hopefully they do - but with every passing day and a middling effort against crap teams, my aspirations for a big post-season diminish. It's been too long since they actually seemed to consider that winning a game was worth the effort.

"NOTHING TO SEE HERE GUYS, EVERYTHING IS FINE, LALALALALA SHUT UP"

I think it’s fair to be both excited by the team’s second playoff appearance in two years and beginning of their competitive window and very disappointed and concerned about their recent performance over the last two months and how that projects into the playoffs. The two aren’t mutually exclusive.

Haha! You're right, so I broke it down a bit more.

First time the organization has made the playoffs in back to back years and people are pissed off and angry. Truly amazing stuff. The season has been boring the past 2 months because they locked up the season early. I haven't even watched as much lately because the games just don't matter. Everyone knows it. Get it going in the next few days and let's wreck some havoc in the playoffs.

I gotta say, OP sucks more than the Sox right now.

I need 92. Took the over on 91.5 before the season.

Or Imagine being a fan of a rival team hoping the team sucks so you can tell other fans of said teams 'I told you so". New posters will be coming out of the the swamp the next few weeks.

I believe that was mine.

So you think Cleveland is going to catch up to us?

Tigers are probably the better team right now, and their Manager is definitely better. Fry in there late with game on the line is nuts.

Also, it may be time for one of those "closed door meetings" from TLR, TA, or Jose Abreu. This team has no excuse for plating 6 runs to the f'n tigers in two games down the stretch.

What's funny is that the SP ERA increase is probably all Dallas Keuchel.

I will never understand people who call themselves "fans" but get way more out of the negative than the positive. Its one thing to be upset in a bad moment and react, but to come back day after day after day, with nothing better to do with your time, and take a perverse joy in failure it just something I can't understand. Find a new hobby or something.

You know, the easiest way for him to not be able to make this thread would be for the White Sox to stop losing series.

Hopefully there is more urgency to spend and be all in during the off-season. Go get a legit 2B and RF. Not someone like Adam Eaton again.

I say you have made this thread every other day for a like a month. Whatever is going to happen will happen, and there is no point about stressing it about it day after day.

The results have been bad, but even when he has scoreless outings, the stuff just isn't there. He's not locating his fastball, it's not at the velocity you want it to be, and while his curveball location has been a bit better recently, it's still pretty erratic. We can blame other stuff all we want, but the guy just isn't the same pitcher we traded for. It's one thing if he's gotten unlucky or the umps are screwing him, but he's just not throwing enough strikes and ends up shooting himself in the foot more often than not with wild pitches. I didn't like the trade because I thought we paid way too much. But I got convinced into it because it seemed like the Sox were finally ponying up to go for it and that we got one of the best relievers in the game having one of the best seasons of all time as a reliever. Unfortunately, he's been anything but that and there's no sign of him ever becoming that guy again with the Sox. Now we're stuck with a market-priced reliever whose trade market is probably drying up as we speak and we also gave up 10 years of control on 2 pretty good pieces in the process. It's a mess and I don't think even the most pessimistic posters about the trade saw this coming.

(close to 700K people dead from a virus) *shrugs (handful of people with adverse vaccine side effects) "whoah! whoah! whoah! I have serious concerns"