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That is an embarrassingly bad take. Yikes.

Josh Nelson on Twitter saying if he were GM he would not have not protected Popeye…???

I see we're going back to the mid-to-late 2000s White Sox philosophy of "trade all the top prospects for silly reasons" here.

Maybe him hating the Cubs instead of the rest of the division has contributed to his teams making the playoffs 7 times in 40 years of ownership

This is dumb. We should want him on the Cubs and Reinsdorf should too. It’s a much better alternative than Houston. It’s just common sense

That was the second *bam*, when Mike said “get back out there and win me a game on one leg”

Good thing jack is here to make sure we all have a level head about all this

Well according to the Balta methodology of adding back WAR to decide who will make the playoffs, the key guys the dealt away and let walk from that 2019 team would add back about 15 WAR, which would have made this a playoff team. But that is only a White Sox thing, so...

I find this to be comparably ridiculous. The Ricketts dismantled a “slam dunk playoff team”? That would I think be news to anyone who watched the 2021 Cubs. They would have completely missed the 2021 playoffs and almost certainly 2022 as well. They were 9 games back and 2 games under .500 at the all star break. Calling that a sure fire playoff team is just wrong. And they haven’t spent inside the stadium? They had a top 6 payroll 5 years in a row, paid the luxury tax twice, would have been top 6 another year but they sold off guys like Bryant and Kimbrel. Outside of the Dodgers, every franchise is going to go through cycles where it makes no sense to spend money and they need to get younger. I only wish the white Sox wound spend the same nothing inside for 5 years.

I think you are confusing Nelson with someone who knows what he is talking about.

Hahn's not messing around this year, huh?

Maybe AA would help Moncada.

It's really weird how 3 years ago - we were on the cusp of the most entertaining White Sox team since the Black Sox. And now we have our hands full with one of the least watchable White Sox teams in history.

One of the most ridiculous posts I have ever read on this forum.

Then the Sox should take advantage of the market, hand the ball to Reynaldo and get the haul for Hendriks.

This is where I am too. I want him to go somewhere to win, so long as it's not another team in the AL Central.

I think Abreu deserves to win even if seeing him in Houston would be tough. I'm not sure why he would want to sign with the Cubs unless he's set on staying in Chicago.

Just from a shifting around bad money perspective, Kelly for Marco Gonzales actually makes a lot of sense. Even if neither of us would like it. It's an interesting idea.

Of course the Rays got 42 innings of a 1.7 ERA out of him between the last 2 seasons. It's what they do.

I asked and he was not confusing the two. Didn't agree with his reasoning at all, although I suppose I could understand it on a macro level.

Fully agree. He was on fire before his hand injury and could easily see playing time this year. It’s such a bad take I wonder if Nelson was confusing him with Yogurt or something.

He might be the best 2nd basemen in the org currently! Or shortstop option if/when TA's hammy flairs up again. I'm not saying that's the case, but it's possible, and obviously he's one of the Sox best prospects anyways.

Beyond all the trash on the 40 man roster currently, the fact he ignored there are rebuilding clubs who happily carry a guy like Popeye on their major league roster for a year is mind boggling.

I love the Soxmachine guys but Josh has some truly bizarre opinions sometimes. Not protecting Popeye would have been insane. Even in the good times, there is *always* dead weight on the Sox 40-man.

Nolan Jones in Coors should be pretty fun. I'm surprised Cleveland is giving up on him already. Looked like a solid strong side platoon player at worst.

Precisely. Me thinks Graveman has value. i would take tapia over engel for free tho.

The Doctor at the very end of 9 gives the final batch of details.

I'd just be beyond skeptical of buying high on someone who found success as a reclamation project on the Dodgers.

The Angels do seem to botch all their FA signings.

No, it's gonna be 3 years and $75 mil cause Jon Heyman said so.

Gotta think Abreu's next contract looks similar to this one

I think it flew under the radar how terrible Gurriel was last year because the team around him was so good. Abreu would be a massive upgrade for them, unfortunately.

I'm surprised Eovaldi didn't take it coming off a pretty bad season with arm issues.

This gif is phenomenal.

who doesn't like having a boner?

Jerry approves.

An;other thing JR did to piss off Bill Veeck was saying "We are going to run a class organization" implying that Veeck didnt. IIRC Bill then went to cub games. I swear JR is a one big PR gaffe

FWIW, if this is the guy I'm thinking of, Paul Goodman is viewed as a guru in the field of injury recovery and prevention, in addition to the "traditional" strength training aspects.

Comparable pitchers to Graveman (Rafael Montero, Robert Suarez) have already signed expensive deals this off-season. The idea of trading him away is still much more appealing to me than Hendriks.

Never, repeat never, trade for any player with a back issue.

Please go to Miami. Those other uniforms will just break my heart.

And even when willing to spent look at how the Yankees and Astro's handle catcher. Jose Trevino platinum glove winner. Martin Maldonado Astros. These aren't exactly superstars .They know where a catcher's true value lies when surrounded by enough competent offense.

Harry dumped JR and company, he wanted no part of Sportsvision, he knew that Sportsvision was not going go over big in Chicago as the Cubs were on free TV for 162 games. In the one year he did work for JR and EE he came to realize that those 2 guys were jerks and got out and the rest his history as Harry became a household name across the country on Superstation WGN.

Hopefully he signs with a team the Sox play in April and May but then not after that.

I still feel that there is a lot more there than we are being told. For me the facts don't add up.

I've said this in a couple places as Lip has posted pieces of this, but it strikes me while reading this how much of the attitude running through these comments are the "old school/meatball" attitude. Some examples: "no red-asses like they had in the past." "Adam Engel faced the music afterwards, he made a mistake and owned up to it" "Moncada would strike out and just walk back to the dugout like no big deal, he fouls a ball off and now he can’t play for three days? His contract makes him untradable but he needs to go." " The catcher (Yamani Grandal), third baseman (Moncada) and shortstop (Tim Anderson) need to go. They need to get guys with a higher baseball acumen, the lack of urgency, the way they beat themselves this season was embarrassing. Anderson needs to go because the organization gave him the keys to the car and he drove it off the cliff. " I agree that they had a lack of urgency, but I take a look at quotes like "adam Engel faced the music on the triple play" - sure he did, but how did that affect him the rest of the season? He had that key error against Arizona, so did it really make a difference for him at all that he owned up to it? No, owning up to things didn't make a difference at all. Moncada strikes out and it would make a big difference if he got angrier or if someone yelled at him more? They need to just dump players because they're not baseball smart"? I pretty much agree with none of those things. I want guys to be smart, not yell louder. I want guys to be prepared, not stress out because they struck out once. I want my coaches to have guys ready to go, well prepared, and more intelligent. I want them in the right position, not trying to make a heroic play. I want guys who don't dwell on strikeouts, but who recognize what the pitcher did to them and come back next time with an approach to prevent that. If a guy is apologetic, that's great, but then what does he do to change things up next time? A guy has a bad attitude and that makes him unsalvageable? Naw, come on, figure out how to put this player in a position to succeed, how many guys did the Dodgers turn into all stars after other teams gave up on them? This whole set of sentiments feels like it is coming out of one of the guys in the room in "Moneyball" describing why they shouldn't draft someone because their girlfriend is ugly. They never talk about people needing to be smarter, they talk about people needing to be yelled at more. They don't talk about guys putting in their time in the film room to be prepared for the next game, they talk about how things make them feel. It has a very "It's all about TWTW" kind of feel to me, rather than anything to do with the level of professionalism and work ethic you see from the top franchises in the league.